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lilwolf · Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 13064 Location: idaho

While it has been said that the laws are different here in my opinion is an accurate comparison of the two laws and their similarities.

In my opinion they are to much alike to not take a clear notice that we as americans that are law abiding gun owners, are in danger of losing our rights to own and keep arms.

The Nazi Weapons Act of 1938

1. Classified guns for sporting purposes.

2. All Germans desiring to purchase firearms had to register with the Nazi officials and submit to a background check.

3. The law assumed that non-Nazi German citizens were hostile and thereby exempted Nazi's from the gun control law.

4. The Nazi's assumed unrestricted power to decide what kinds of firearms could, or could not, be owned by private persons.

5. The types of ammunition that were legal were subject to control by governmental bureaucrats.

6. Citizens under 18 years of age could not buy firearms and ammunition.

United States Gun Control Act of 1968

1. Introduced term "sporting purpose."

2. Exempted government agencies from the controls which applied to law-abiding citizens.

3. Age restrictions of 18 years and 21 years were applied to anyone who wished to purchase firearms and ammunition.

4. Authorized the Secretary of the Treasury to decide what firearms could or could not be owned by private persons.

5.The types of ammunition that were legal were subject to control by governmental bureaucrats.

6. Age restriction of 18 years and 21 years were applied to anyone who wished to purchase firearms and ammunition.

Thomas Jefferson was very clear in his writings regarding the right to bear arms. Jefferson knew that the preservation of the Republic ultimately rested upon a well-armed citizenry. Jefferson felt it was absolutely necessary for American citizens to be able to protect themselves. The protection that Jefferson spoke of was not from our obvious enemies of the day (France and Britain), but from our own government. Jefferson made this point quite clear when he admonished future generations of Americans to fulfill their duty to overthrow a government that failed to serve the needs of the majority of its citizens.

Private ownership of guns is the necessary component needed to fulfill the Jeffersonian mandate for national self-defense. Yet, increasingly and reminiscent of Nazi Germany, the United States government is incrementally chipping away at private citizens right to own a gun. Why? FBI statistics clearly show that 90% of the guns used in the commission of a crime are stolen! Does the government really believe that criminals, both American citizens and illegal aliens, as well as terrorists, are suddenly going to perform their civic duty and immediately register their guns? How is America better-served if the only ones who don't have access to guns are the law-abiding citizens? So, one must ask who are the gun control laws designed to protect and why?

When one considers that the nation is on the cusp of implementing a fascist-type of national ID card (see part one of "Back to the Future: Echoes From 1935" [Part One] http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Editorial-Page.htm?InfoNo=010671) combined with an increasingly aggressive set of legislative attempts designed to separate Americans from their guns, Americans should be asking why.

Never forget!"

http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Editorial-Page.htm?InfoNo=010692

britboy · Joined: 02 Jun 2006 Posts: 3448 Location: London

Do you agree with the whole of this other person's opinion you've copied and pasted?

You could save space in future by just giving the link?

lilwolf · Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 13064 Location: idaho

britboy wrote: Do you agree with the whole of this other person's opinion you've copied and pasted?

You could save space in future by just giving the link?

Yes, I do agree that given the history of where and when the laws came into being and bordering a conspiracy thought I have to agree that the laws are to close to being the same. Our 1968 gun control act was presented by a now dead senator "Dodd". So, there are to many similarities to just ignore.

I tried linking and was told by a person that I should post what was important. Apparently that person did not want to do the work himself by going to the link and reading so after a name calling thing I figured I would just do it this way and then he could not holler. I do not post every word normally but sometimes if it is a short article I will.

Wolverine · Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 10899 Location: Podunk, Colorado

lilwolf wrote: While it has been said that the laws are different here in my opinion is an accurate comparison of the two laws and their similarities.

In my opinion they are to much alike to not take a clear notice that we as americans that are law abiding gun owners, are in danger of losing our rights to own and keep arms.

The Nazi Weapons Act of 1938

1. Classified guns for sporting purposes.

2. All Germans desiring to purchase firearms had to register with the Nazi officials and submit to a background check.

3. The law assumed that non-Nazi German citizens were hostile and thereby exempted Nazi's from the gun control law.

4. The Nazi's assumed unrestricted power to decide what kinds of firearms could, or could not, be owned by private persons.

5. The types of ammunition that were legal were subject to control by governmental bureaucrats.

6. Citizens under 18 years of age could not buy firearms and ammunition.

United States Gun Control Act of 1968

1. Introduced term "sporting purpose."

2. Exempted government agencies from the controls which applied to law-abiding citizens.

3. Age restrictions of 18 years and 21 years were applied to anyone who wished to purchase firearms and ammunition.

4. Authorized the Secretary of the Treasury to decide what firearms could or could not be owned by private persons.

5.The types of ammunition that were legal were subject to control by governmental bureaucrats.

6. Age restriction of 18 years and 21 years were applied to anyone who wished to purchase firearms and ammunition.

Thomas Jefferson was very clear in his writings regarding the right to bear arms. Jefferson knew that the preservation of the Republic ultimately rested upon a well-armed citizenry. Jefferson felt it was absolutely necessary for American citizens to be able to protect themselves. The protection that Jefferson spoke of was not from our obvious enemies of the day (France and Britain), but from our own government. Jefferson made this point quite clear when he admonished future generations of Americans to fulfill their duty to overthrow a government that failed to serve the needs of the majority of its citizens.

Private ownership of guns is the necessary component needed to fulfill the Jeffersonian mandate for national self-defense. Yet, increasingly and reminiscent of Nazi Germany, the United States government is incrementally chipping away at private citizens right to own a gun. Why? FBI statistics clearly show that 90% of the guns used in the commission of a crime are stolen! Does the government really believe that criminals, both American citizens and illegal aliens, as well as terrorists, are suddenly going to perform their civic duty and immediately register their guns? How is America better-served if the only ones who don't have access to guns are the law-abiding citizens? So, one must ask who are the gun control laws designed to protect and why?

When one considers that the nation is on the cusp of implementing a fascist-type of national ID card (see part one of "Back to the Future: Echoes From 1935" [Part One] http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Editorial-Page.htm?InfoNo=010671) combined with an increasingly aggressive set of legislative attempts designed to separate Americans from their guns, Americans should be asking why.

Never forget!"

http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Editorial-Page.htm?InfoNo=010692
Your post proves that anti-gunners are the Anti-Freedom.

lilwolf · Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 13064 Location: idaho

And yet they do not want to see it or they figure "no way,,,that always happens to the other guy" thing. But guess what they to are the other guy.

Wolverine · Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 10899 Location: Podunk, Colorado

Not to mention the anti-gun does not stop at merely guns, they want to regulate other aspects of life as well.

The Newb · Joined: 06 Oct 2006 Posts: 2668

good post :clap:

micfranklin · Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 6:00 pm Post subject:

To the OP, the main differences between the two acts would be the year and countries the laws were put in.

Quote: 2. Exempted government agencies from the controls which applied to law-abiding citizens.

That is particularly dangerous IMO.

lilwolf · Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 13064 Location: idaho

micfranklin wrote: To the OP, the main differences between the two acts would be the year and countries the laws were put in.

Quote: 2. Exempted government agencies from the controls which applied to law-abiding citizens.

That is particularly dangerous IMO.

That is the part that bothers me the most. The similarities are just flat spooky.

lilwolf · Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 13064 Location: idaho

A late Senator Dodd had a copy of the German laws and in the 60's he brought them into the senate and got it passed and this is what it got us today.....snot nose people that figure they can take away our rights and guns....Not going to happen around my house.

micfranklin · Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 1:06 am Post subject:

Well at least us gun-supporting citizens know the full uses of guns in the right hands and don't choose to ignore them, unlike other select groups...

*cough* anti-gun people *cough*

Snake · Joined: 10 Oct 2006 Posts: 21776 Location: e-Thuggin

Looks like the anti-gun folks are winning, everytime some little bastard opens fire in a school, we lose more rights, yet you rarely see any of the crimes commited without firearms on the news.

lilwolf · Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 13064 Location: idaho

Kamel wrote: Looks like the anti-gun folks are winning, everytime some little bastard opens fire in a school, we lose more rights, yet you rarely see any of the crimes commited without firearms on the news.

It is because of their agenda that says we have to be servants to the govt. What they fail to think about is that by trying to do what they are doing they are setting the stage for an internal civil war.