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Revenant



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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 2:25 pm    Post subject:  

Mighty Oak wrote: Patriot911 wrote: Mighty Oak wrote: Revenant wrote: It's a freakin cartoon, and it was hilarious. Jesus tapdancing Christ.

Both sides making it into something it isn't. You don't understand manipulation then.In fact we our all being manipulated everyday.Knowing this can only help you.

OMG! You mean the government is now using South Park to manipulate us?!? :rofl: Tighten that aluminum beanie..... I think some mind control waves are accidentally getting through. There you go,I try and help only to be ridiculed.
No,southpark is only playing into the manipulation,in that it portrays people like me as a retard and now you don't want to be called a retard do you?

read todd it------ Respect my authori-tie

No, I watch South Park for entertainment. Not for information. Hell half of that episode was about taking a dump in a urinal and how the Hardy Boys were gay.

If I want real information, I usually stick to text and internet. If I want entertainment, I'll stick to the idiot box.

People truly are making a mountain of a molehill. This neither proves nor disproves anything. It's just plain hilarious.
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psholtz



Joined: 15 Feb 2004
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Location: California

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 2:27 pm    Post subject:  

Patriot911 wrote: psholtz wrote: Patriot911 wrote: Most adults understand the context of that statement when made in a conspiracy theory forum. I will remember your deliberate stupidity and make sure I spell everything out for you so you don't have to play dumb.
I don't understand the context you're trying to convey...

Not even close.

Moreover, had this been a court of law, you would have just committed perjury. You made one allegation, and upon cross-examination it was discovered that what you alleged had in fact been a total lie.

Tread carfully, my friend..

:roll: Only someone as deceitful as you would make the ludicrous claim that I would have perjured myself. You need to study up on what perjury is and what constitutes it. But I understand you can't debate the issue and so are trying to devolve this discussion into one of semantics and petty nit picking. Figures. ;-)
You alleged that I:

* deny everything about 9/11

When pressed, you admitted that I merely:

* deny most of what the government says about 9/11

Clearly these two statements are not identical, or even close in meaning, and moreover you have not provided any evidence to back up either of your claims.
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Mighty Oak



Joined: 13 Sep 2006
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Location: Tikrit,north,south,east and west somewhat

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 2:34 pm    Post subject:  

Revenant wrote: Mighty Oak wrote: Patriot911 wrote: Mighty Oak wrote: Revenant wrote: It's a freakin cartoon, and it was hilarious. Jesus tapdancing Christ.

Both sides making it into something it isn't. You don't understand manipulation then.In fact we our all being manipulated everyday.Knowing this can only help you.

OMG! You mean the government is now using South Park to manipulate us?!? :rofl: Tighten that aluminum beanie..... I think some mind control waves are accidentally getting through. There you go,I try and help only to be ridiculed.
No,southpark is only playing into the manipulation,in that it portrays people like me as a retard and now you don't want to be called a retard do you?

read todd it------ Respect my authori-tie

No, I watch South Park for entertainment. Not for information. Hell half of that episode was about taking a dump in a urinal and how the Hardy Boys were gay.

If I want real information, I usually stick to text and internet. If I want entertainment, I'll stick to the idiot box.

People truly are making a mountain of a molehill. This neither proves nor disproves anything. It's just plain hilarious. You may not watch it for info,and I believe that most people don't but,there is a thing called fear of ridicule and this hit piece was just that.By associating the 911 truth movement with anti-semitism and calling people retards is going to manipulate a certain amount of our population.Surely you can see this.
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Free Thinkr



Joined: 27 Jul 2004
Posts: 12515
Location: Northwest Indiana

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 2:36 pm    Post subject:  

Mighty Oak wrote: Revenant wrote: Mighty Oak wrote: Patriot911 wrote: Mighty Oak wrote: Revenant wrote: It's a freakin cartoon, and it was hilarious. Jesus tapdancing Christ.

Both sides making it into something it isn't. You don't understand manipulation then.In fact we our all being manipulated everyday.Knowing this can only help you.

OMG! You mean the government is now using South Park to manipulate us?!? :rofl: Tighten that aluminum beanie..... I think some mind control waves are accidentally getting through. There you go,I try and help only to be ridiculed.
No,southpark is only playing into the manipulation,in that it portrays people like me as a retard and now you don't want to be called a retard do you?

read todd it------ Respect my authori-tie

No, I watch South Park for entertainment. Not for information. Hell half of that episode was about taking a dump in a urinal and how the Hardy Boys were gay.

If I want real information, I usually stick to text and internet. If I want entertainment, I'll stick to the idiot box.

People truly are making a mountain of a molehill. This neither proves nor disproves anything. It's just plain hilarious. You may not watch it for info,and I believe that most people don't but,there is a thing called fear of ridicule and this hit piece was just that.By associating the 911 truth movement with anti-semitism and calling people retards is going to manipulate a certain sector of our population.Surely you can see this.
Oh, gee, I wonder why anyone would associate the 911 bowel movement with antisemitism... *cough* Silverstein *cough*
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Mighty Oak



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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 2:40 pm    Post subject:  

Free Thinkr wrote: Mighty Oak wrote: Revenant wrote: Mighty Oak wrote: Patriot911 wrote: Mighty Oak wrote: Revenant wrote: It's a freakin cartoon, and it was hilarious. Jesus tapdancing Christ.

Both sides making it into something it isn't. You don't understand manipulation then.In fact we our all being manipulated everyday.Knowing this can only help you.

OMG! You mean the government is now using South Park to manipulate us?!? :rofl: Tighten that aluminum beanie..... I think some mind control waves are accidentally getting through. There you go,I try and help only to be ridiculed.
No,southpark is only playing into the manipulation,in that it portrays people like me as a retard and now you don't want to be called a retard do you?

read todd it------ Respect my authori-tie

No, I watch South Park for entertainment. Not for information. Hell half of that episode was about taking a dump in a urinal and how the Hardy Boys were gay.

If I want real information, I usually stick to text and internet. If I want entertainment, I'll stick to the idiot box.

People truly are making a mountain of a molehill. This neither proves nor disproves anything. It's just plain hilarious. You may not watch it for info,and I believe that most people don't but,there is a thing called fear of ridicule and this hit piece was just that.By associating the 911 truth movement with anti-semitism and calling people retards is going to manipulate a certain sector of our population.Surely you can see this.
Oh, gee, I wonder why anyone would associate the 911 bowel movement with antisemitism... *cough* Silverstein *cough* Do you remember the term useful idiot I used just a little while ago?
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Patriot911



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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:17 pm    Post subject:  

psholtz wrote: Patriot911 wrote: psholtz wrote: Patriot911 wrote: Most adults understand the context of that statement when made in a conspiracy theory forum. I will remember your deliberate stupidity and make sure I spell everything out for you so you don't have to play dumb.
I don't understand the context you're trying to convey...

Not even close.

Moreover, had this been a court of law, you would have just committed perjury. You made one allegation, and upon cross-examination it was discovered that what you alleged had in fact been a total lie.

Tread carfully, my friend..

:roll: Only someone as deceitful as you would make the ludicrous claim that I would have perjured myself. You need to study up on what perjury is and what constitutes it. But I understand you can't debate the issue and so are trying to devolve this discussion into one of semantics and petty nit picking. Figures. ;-)
You alleged that I:

* deny everything about 9/11

When pressed, you admitted that I merely:

* deny most of what the government says about 9/11

Clearly these two statements are not identical, or even close in meaning, and moreover you have not provided any evidence to back up either of your claims.

So now who is being deceitful? I did not say you deny everything about 9/11 but aspects of 9/11. Since we are in a conspiracy theory forum, these aspects would logically be related to the official theory vs. the conspiracy theory.

Thank you for proving not only that you are dishonest yet again, but that you still can't debate the topic but would rather devolve the debate into a semantic discussion over a minute point over what was meant that was cleared up several posts ago.
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Patriot911



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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:21 pm    Post subject:  

Psholtz wrote: Bear in mind too, I don't "deny" 9/11..

I'm simply tell you that what the government alleges happened during 9/11 is a total lie.

Direct from the horse's rear end's mouth. Since you claim it is a "total" lie, that would mean no aspect of the government's version of 9/11 is correct. Now quit playing word games and get back to the debate. All you are doing is wasting bandwidth.
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Free Thinkr



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Location: Northwest Indiana

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:23 pm    Post subject:  

Mighty Oak wrote: Free Thinkr wrote: Mighty Oak wrote: Revenant wrote: Mighty Oak wrote: Patriot911 wrote: Mighty Oak wrote: Revenant wrote: It's a freakin cartoon, and it was hilarious. Jesus tapdancing Christ.

Both sides making it into something it isn't. You don't understand manipulation then.In fact we our all being manipulated everyday.Knowing this can only help you.

OMG! You mean the government is now using South Park to manipulate us?!? :rofl: Tighten that aluminum beanie..... I think some mind control waves are accidentally getting through. There you go,I try and help only to be ridiculed.
No,southpark is only playing into the manipulation,in that it portrays people like me as a retard and now you don't want to be called a retard do you?

read todd it------ Respect my authori-tie

No, I watch South Park for entertainment. Not for information. Hell half of that episode was about taking a dump in a urinal and how the Hardy Boys were gay.

If I want real information, I usually stick to text and internet. If I want entertainment, I'll stick to the idiot box.

People truly are making a mountain of a molehill. This neither proves nor disproves anything. It's just plain hilarious. You may not watch it for info,and I believe that most people don't but,there is a thing called fear of ridicule and this hit piece was just that.By associating the 911 truth movement with anti-semitism and calling people retards is going to manipulate a certain sector of our population.Surely you can see this.
Oh, gee, I wonder why anyone would associate the 911 bowel movement with antisemitism... *cough* Silverstein *cough* Do you remember the term useful idiot I used just a little while ago?
Of course. Your 'arguments' consist of labeling things without substantiation.
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NAB



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Location: Where the stars at night, are big and bright

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:26 pm    Post subject:  

Revenant wrote: It's a freakin cartoon, and it was hilarious. Jesus tapdancing Christ.

Both sides making it into something it isn't.

I agree, but this issue get's taken so "personally" by many. If you dare make fun of them they'll got ape-ess. I mentioned it earlier in this thread about people not taking themselves so damn seriously. Lot of that going around these days. :roll:

Btw, Trey and Matt need to do an episode on Jesus tapdancing Christ. :lol:
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psholtz



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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:51 pm    Post subject:  

Patriot911 wrote: psholtz wrote: Patriot911 wrote: psholtz wrote: Patriot911 wrote: Most adults understand the context of that statement when made in a conspiracy theory forum. I will remember your deliberate stupidity and make sure I spell everything out for you so you don't have to play dumb.
I don't understand the context you're trying to convey...

Not even close.

Moreover, had this been a court of law, you would have just committed perjury. You made one allegation, and upon cross-examination it was discovered that what you alleged had in fact been a total lie.

Tread carfully, my friend..

:roll: Only someone as deceitful as you would make the ludicrous claim that I would have perjured myself. You need to study up on what perjury is and what constitutes it. But I understand you can't debate the issue and so are trying to devolve this discussion into one of semantics and petty nit picking. Figures. ;-)
You alleged that I:

* deny everything about 9/11

When pressed, you admitted that I merely:

* deny most of what the government says about 9/11

Clearly these two statements are not identical, or even close in meaning, and moreover you have not provided any evidence to back up either of your claims.

So now who is being deceitful? I did not say you deny everything about 9/11 but aspects of 9/11. Since we are in a conspiracy theory forum, these aspects would logically be related to the official theory vs. the conspiracy theory.

Thank you for proving not only that you are dishonest yet again, but that you still can't debate the topic but would rather devolve the debate into a semantic discussion over a minute point over what was meant that was cleared up several posts ago.
First you said I'm a "9/11 denier"

Then you said I deny everything about 9/11..

Then you said I deny *most* of the things the government alleges happened on 9/11..

Am I missing something here? :think:
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NAB



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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:55 pm    Post subject:  

psholtz wrote: Patriot911 wrote: psholtz wrote: Patriot911 wrote: psholtz wrote: Patriot911 wrote: Most adults understand the context of that statement when made in a conspiracy theory forum. I will remember your deliberate stupidity and make sure I spell everything out for you so you don't have to play dumb.
I don't understand the context you're trying to convey...

Not even close.

Moreover, had this been a court of law, you would have just committed perjury. You made one allegation, and upon cross-examination it was discovered that what you alleged had in fact been a total lie.

Tread carfully, my friend..

:roll: Only someone as deceitful as you would make the ludicrous claim that I would have perjured myself. You need to study up on what perjury is and what constitutes it. But I understand you can't debate the issue and so are trying to devolve this discussion into one of semantics and petty nit picking. Figures. ;-)
You alleged that I:

* deny everything about 9/11

When pressed, you admitted that I merely:

* deny most of what the government says about 9/11

Clearly these two statements are not identical, or even close in meaning, and moreover you have not provided any evidence to back up either of your claims.

So now who is being deceitful? I did not say you deny everything about 9/11 but aspects of 9/11. Since we are in a conspiracy theory forum, these aspects would logically be related to the official theory vs. the conspiracy theory.

Thank you for proving not only that you are dishonest yet again, but that you still can't debate the topic but would rather devolve the debate into a semantic discussion over a minute point over what was meant that was cleared up several posts ago.
First you said I'm a "9/11 denier"

Then you said I deny everything about 9/11..

Then you said I deny *most* of the things the government alleges happened on 9/11..

Am I missing something here? :think:

Logical loop.........Everything I say is a lie. I'm lying. :shock:

Any Star Trek fans out there?
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superskippy



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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:10 pm    Post subject:  

On a searous note regardless of what conspiracy theorists might say or what the episode did or did not prove it will do a good deal of damage to the 9/11 conspiracy groups. Why? Because it is one of the most popular and most watched comedy shoes on television with millions of viewers and impacting such a message centered around an entire episode is going to make people go "Hey did you see South Park last night?" "Yeah those 9/11 conspiracy people are retards". And you just have to know what people will say when a statistic is cited of a number of people who beleive it was a conspiracy.

That being said "Then who caused 9/11" "A bunch of pissed of muslims, what are you retarted?"
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Patriot911



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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:15 pm    Post subject:  

NAB wrote: psholtz wrote: Patriot911 wrote: psholtz wrote: Patriot911 wrote: psholtz wrote: Patriot911 wrote: Most adults understand the context of that statement when made in a conspiracy theory forum. I will remember your deliberate stupidity and make sure I spell everything out for you so you don't have to play dumb.
I don't understand the context you're trying to convey...

Not even close.

Moreover, had this been a court of law, you would have just committed perjury. You made one allegation, and upon cross-examination it was discovered that what you alleged had in fact been a total lie.

Tread carfully, my friend..

:roll: Only someone as deceitful as you would make the ludicrous claim that I would have perjured myself. You need to study up on what perjury is and what constitutes it. But I understand you can't debate the issue and so are trying to devolve this discussion into one of semantics and petty nit picking. Figures. ;-)
You alleged that I:

* deny everything about 9/11

When pressed, you admitted that I merely:

* deny most of what the government says about 9/11

Clearly these two statements are not identical, or even close in meaning, and moreover you have not provided any evidence to back up either of your claims.

So now who is being deceitful? I did not say you deny everything about 9/11 but aspects of 9/11. Since we are in a conspiracy theory forum, these aspects would logically be related to the official theory vs. the conspiracy theory.

Thank you for proving not only that you are dishonest yet again, but that you still can't debate the topic but would rather devolve the debate into a semantic discussion over a minute point over what was meant that was cleared up several posts ago.
First you said I'm a "9/11 denier"

Then you said I deny everything about 9/11..

Then you said I deny *most* of the things the government alleges happened on 9/11..

Am I missing something here? :think:

Logical loop.........Everything I say is a lie. I'm lying. :shock:

Any Star Trek fans out there?

Yeah. And your name is Mudd. ;-)
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Snake



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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:23 pm    Post subject:  

It was awesome. I was thinking Cartman was going to find the "jews did wtc" website, but it turned out way better than that.

Kyle: Then who did it?
Bush: It was a bunch of pissed of muslims stupid, are you retarded? :rofl:
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Nathyn



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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:23 pm    Post subject:  

psholtz wrote: NAB wrote: The show DID prove there was a conspiracy on 911. The conspiracy was that the Govt' was behind the 911 Truth movement, so that people would think they're powerful and competent, by making people believe they're capable of pulling off an overly complex assault.
So you're saying a rag-tag band of Mujahadeen operating in a cave in Afghanistan were more powerful and competent than the four-quadrillion U.S. military-industrial complex?

Somehow.. I doubt it.. :think:
"Too many cooks spoil the broth."
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Casualtie



Joined: 21 Sep 2006
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:28 pm    Post subject:  

blah i missed the premiere. i'm gunna figure out a way to see it though.

sounds like a good one
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Anarko-Kapitalizt



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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:32 pm    Post subject:  

"Fudge Dragon" "Chocolate Hotdog"

:rotf:
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psholtz



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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 12:53 am    Post subject:  

Nathyn wrote: psholtz wrote: NAB wrote: The show DID prove there was a conspiracy on 911. The conspiracy was that the Govt' was behind the 911 Truth movement, so that people would think they're powerful and competent, by making people believe they're capable of pulling off an overly complex assault.
So you're saying a rag-tag band of Mujahadeen operating in a cave in Afghanistan were more powerful and competent than the four-quadrillion U.S. military-industrial complex?

Somehow.. I doubt it.. :think:
"Too many cooks spoil the broth."
Quoting (loosely) from the South Park episode: "(President Bush speaking): It was the greatest military operation ever! ..... ever!!.. "

Yes, it was, wasn't it... :think:

Who do you think is more likely to have carried out the greatest military operation ever .. ever? The $8 trillion US military industrial complex, or a few cave-dwelling Saudi-Afghan Mujahadeen "freedom fighters" armed w/ boxcutters?

I let those who still possess the faculty of logic and reason to think that one through on their own.
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Snake



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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 2:31 am    Post subject:  

The Islamic extremeists, who have a lot to gain from this, has CIA training (remember that little Russo-Afghani deal?) and actually attempted to destroy the WTC before. Besides, doesn't the left always criticize Bush for his gross negligence, infinite ignorance, and his inability to do anything right? And now everyone thinks he's behind "the greatest military operation ever"?!?! Dude, wtf.... Totally illogical and irrational thinking, imo.
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psholtz



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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 7:23 am    Post subject:  

Kamel wrote: The Islamic extremeists, who have a lot to gain from this, has CIA training (remember that little Russo-Afghani deal?) and actually attempted to destroy the WTC before. Besides, doesn't the left always criticize Bush for his gross negligence, infinite ignorance, and his inability to do anything right? And now everyone thinks he's behind "the greatest military operation ever"?!?! Dude, wtf.... Totally illogical and irrational thinking, imo.
No.. I think the greatest military ever is behind the greatest military operation ever.. ever.

Doesn't really make sense any other way.

The 1993 WTC bombing was planned and carried out by the FBI.

Do your homework, thanks..
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