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[cap'n queasy]

Check it out.


http://www.8x.com/onenight/story.html

I'll probably go check it out, because it is one of my favorite Bible stories.

[Todd D.]

For a second I thought we were talking about The Marine.

[LetsGetReal]

I'll be seeing it..:)

[psholtz]

The Festival of Purim...

Oh boy...

[cap'n queasy]

I guess that means it's part of some kind of nefarious plot or some thing.

[psholtz]

cap'n queasy wrote: I guess that means it's part of some kind of nefarious plot or some thing.
Purim seems like a pretty violent thing to celebrate..

There's a lot of disinfo in the movie as well.. For instance they use Stars of David in the movie:

http://gener8xion.smugmug.com/photos/95332219-O.jpg

A Jew of that era would barely have recognized a Star of David.. If anything, Stars of David were associated w/ Egyptian pharoahs back in that era, not w/ the Jews. The Jews used menorahs.. not Stars of David.

That's just from surfing the site for 30 seconds..

I'm sure you could uncover all kinds of other disinfo if you delved a little deeper..

[cap'n queasy]

Quote: The salt production technique used by the Jews in the Nile Delta evaporation pans was a simple one.
Crystallisation of salt in solar pans, in hot climates, occurred naturally, at the surface of the brine.
The crystals first formed float, until they become soaked - since the surface brine reaches saturation point before the cooler lower layers. Additional crystals grow beside these crystals partially submerged, rather than below them, or above them, thus a typical "funnel" or wedge form takes shape.
The specific gravity of a Sodium Chloride crystal is 2.16. and the saturated brine at 25 C contains 26.7% salt. and has a specific gravity of 1.2004. At 15 C a saturated solution may contain 26.5% salt, and has a specific gravity 1.203. Hence a solution saturated at a higher temperature is specifically lighter, even though it contains a greater quantity of salt. It is this explanation that allowed salt makers to crystallise "blocks" or briquettes of salt on the surfaces of ponds, using floating elements such as sticks and straws to form the crusts of salt. .


It should be noted that with most other substances, crystallisation can not occur at the the solution surface because their solubility increases more rapidly than their specific gravity decreases. Thus a geometric form floating on the surface of the pan brine, or planted vertically in the shallow brine, enabled crystallisation to occur, encrusting the floating form, with salt on the brine surface

Such geometric forms , mostly made of straws, or sticks, were most efficient when constructed to allow the salt to crystallise over a large area yet not be influenced by wind and waves. These geometric forms were mainly crosses or squares with diagonal or tangential struts to strengthen the form. The most popular form of straw construction with the greatest surface area and strength, was the "Star of David".

Since salt making of this kind occurred well before most of today's religions developed, it is quite reasonable to assume that the Jews and their particular interest in salt and "kashrut" hygiene, later used the star form also as a symbol

http://www.salt.org.il/rel.html

[John]

psholtz wrote: cap'n queasy wrote: I guess that means it's part of some kind of nefarious plot or some thing.
Purim seems like a pretty violent thing to celebrate..

There's a lot of disinfo in the movie as well.. For instance they use Stars of David in the movie:

http://gener8xion.smugmug.com/photos/95332219-O.jpg

A Jew of that era would barely have recognized a Star of David.. If anything, Stars of David were associated w/ Egyptian pharoahs back in that era, not w/ the Jews. The Jews used menorahs.. not Stars of David.

That's just from surfing the site for 30 seconds..

I'm sure you could uncover all kinds of other disinfo if you delved a little deeper..

It's just a movie.

[cap'n queasy]

The same technique is still used in Mexico to this day. BTW, many of the Spanish who went to the New World where Jews expelled from Spain. .



Quote: The dictates of "Kashrut" law have always confined Jews to living, within a proximity of salt supplies and a sense of its importance for every day living was essential to Jewish philosophy . Iit is not a coincidence, that down the ages, Jewish communities have always been close to salt supplies, or salt trading routes, nor is it coincidence that Jews have always been directly connected with those allied industries involving uses of salt, such as tanning and leather and many other bye-products, Not least of these, was the use of salt, sometimes, as "money" and as a means to pay tax or as a prime taxable item, Since the Jewish literacy rate has always been high, close involvement in the collection of taxes for and on behalf of the local administrations, probably contributed greatly to anti-Semitism.
It might also be possible to correlate the resulting consistently high physiological salt intake by Jewish populations to high standards of hygiene and health, in spite of periodical famine. and also possibly to the high cultural and "thinking" reputation of these Jewish communities.
http://www.salt.org.il/rel.html

[psholtz]

cap'n queasy wrote: Quote: The salt production technique used by the Jews in the Nile Delta evaporation pans was a simple one.
Crystallisation of salt in solar pans, in hot climates, occurred naturally, at the surface of the brine.
The crystals first formed float, until they become soaked - since the surface brine reaches saturation point before the cooler lower layers. Additional crystals grow beside these crystals partially submerged, rather than below them, or above them, thus a typical "funnel" or wedge form takes shape.
The specific gravity of a Sodium Chloride crystal is 2.16. and the saturated brine at 25 C contains 26.7% salt. and has a specific gravity of 1.2004. At 15 C a saturated solution may contain 26.5% salt, and has a specific gravity 1.203. Hence a solution saturated at a higher temperature is specifically lighter, even though it contains a greater quantity of salt. It is this explanation that allowed salt makers to crystallise "blocks" or briquettes of salt on the surfaces of ponds, using floating elements such as sticks and straws to form the crusts of salt. .


It should be noted that with most other substances, crystallisation can not occur at the the solution surface because their solubility increases more rapidly than their specific gravity decreases. Thus a geometric form floating on the surface of the pan brine, or planted vertically in the shallow brine, enabled crystallisation to occur, encrusting the floating form, with salt on the brine surface

Such geometric forms , mostly made of straws, or sticks, were most efficient when constructed to allow the salt to crystallise over a large area yet not be influenced by wind and waves. These geometric forms were mainly crosses or squares with diagonal or tangential struts to strengthen the form. The most popular form of straw construction with the greatest surface area and strength, was the "Star of David".

Since salt making of this kind occurred well before most of today's religions developed, it is quite reasonable to assume that the Jews and their particular interest in salt and "kashrut" hygiene, later used the star form also as a symbol

http://www.salt.org.il/rel.html

There we go..

I highlighted the most important word in your entire post.. :wink:

[cap'n queasy]

:lol:

[Mailech]

I love the story of Purim, but I wonder what the film version of the Rabbinic interpretation would look like. :lol:

[cap'n queasy]

Mailech wrote: I love the story of Purim, but I wonder what the film version of the Rabbinic interpretation would look like. :lol:

Is there a convenient link to something we can read of this perspective?

[Mailech]

cap'n queasy wrote: Mailech wrote: I love the story of Purim, but I wonder what the film version of the Rabbinic interpretation would look like. :lol:

Is there a convenient link to something we can read of this perspective?

Well I don't know of a specific link, but one thing that strikes me is that according to Jewish tradition Ester was married to Mordechai. Also she was old. So you have this old non-virgin going to the virgin buety contest and winning.

Btw, on that note I always get a kick out of this, and wish I was the King of Persia. Think about what happened. He had a beauty contest and the tradition goes that each night he had sex with another contestant and if you did not win you go to the harem to be a concubine. He gathered pretty girls from 129 provinces. Even if it was just 3 a piece, that is a diifferent pretty girl every night for a year. If that isn't bad enough, there is a line in the Megilah that is almost hidden. It goes "And when they gathered virgins the second time". This was after he picked Ester, he had such a good time, he decided to do it again. Every time I read that line I almost crack up.