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skinn
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| Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 1:12 am Post subject: pro-choice/pro-life's relation with liberal/conservative |
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most liberals are pro-choice, while most conservatives are pro-life.
but i wanna see on this forum, i am a pro-life liberal, is there many pro-life liberals, or pro-choice concervatives? |
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Varyag
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| Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:19 am Post subject: |
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| I am an anti-abortion independant :-| |
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JDHURF
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| Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:30 am Post subject: |
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| I seem to fit the stereotype, a pro-choice liberal, however, I am not strictly liberal. My political views are hard to describe with a vague epithet, a liberal libertarian works well, I’m also not too far away from being labeled a social democrat and I only differ from this latter epithet in that I am not really for the democratic evolution of capitalism into a pure form of socialism, I would enjoy a healthy mixture of the two if at all possible. I am all for the legality of abortion though, on this I do not waver. |
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CommiepinkoLefty
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| Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:32 am Post subject: |
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| I'm a pro-choice liberal... |
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skinn
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| Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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| seems the stereotype is obveous :? |
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agentkgb
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| I'm liberal, and I support the right to doctor-assisted suicide and other right-to-die views, but I don't really stand anywhere on abortion. I haven't heard a decent argument from either side and I can't think of one either that's not easily refutable. |
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TheCaliforniaLife
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| Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm a pro-life who is a stanch liberal. |
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skinn
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| Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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TheCaliforniaLife wrote: I'm a pro-life who is a stanch liberal.
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agentkgb
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| Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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TheCaliforniaLife wrote: I'm a pro-life who is a stanch liberal.
Pro-life all around or just against abortion? |
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skinn
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| Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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agentkgb wrote: TheCaliforniaLife wrote: I'm a pro-life who is a stanch liberal.
Pro-life all around or just against abortion?
I think we are talking about abortion here. I am for example, against abortion but support doctor suppervised suicide or any suicide.
Every person has the right to do for himself whatever he wants, if he wants to kill himself, no one has the right to stop him. (if he doesn't injure anyone else in this process)
But abortion is killing another person, the baby is not a property of the mother, so she doesn't have the right to kill him. |
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Green
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| Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Me- Im an anti abortion moderate anti-partisan |
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skinn
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| Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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Green wrote: Me- Im an anti abortion moderate anti-partisan
i'm not talking about the parties: reps and dems.
I'm talking about being morally and socially liberals or conservative. |
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Obilisk18
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| Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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skinn wrote: Green wrote: Me- Im an anti abortion moderate anti-partisan
i'm not talking about the parties: reps and dems.
I'm talking about being morally and socially liberals or conservative.
Ah, well that changes my vote a bit. Since I'm somewhere between moderate and mildly liberal socially. Very conservative (although not extremely) conservative on fiscal and foreign policy matters. |
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LostSoul3412
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| Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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Seems I'm the only conservative pro-choicer around...
Although that's a bit misleading... I'm liberal on social issues, however I tend to be conservative on economic matters. |
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skinn
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LostSoul3412 wrote: Seems I'm the only conservative pro-choicer around...
Although that's a bit misleading... I'm liberal on social issues, however I tend to be conservative on economic matters.
we're talking about social issues, i just said it :evil: :lol: |
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skinn
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| Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 9:08 pm Post subject: Re: pro-choice/pro-life's relation with liberal/conservative |
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skinn wrote: most liberals are pro-choice, while most conservatives are pro-life.
but i wanna see on this forum, i am a pro-life liberal, is there many pro-life liberals, or pro-choice concervatives?
P.S: we're talking about social and moral liberal or conservative. No economy.No parties. |
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Lumina
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I can't vote; there isn't a category for me.
And I simply refuse to categorize myself. On another thread today asking about who still supports Bush, straight out of the gate somebody just had to state that anybody who still does is "neo-scum." I am very conservative on some issues and shocking liberal on others.
Can future polls provide a category for those of us who aren't "conservative" OR "liberal"? |
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JayDubya
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I consider myself a libertarian, and as such I'm relatively socially liberal, but very fiscally / economically rightist. I am vehemently anti-abortion.
For purposes of your poll's accuracy I will vote liberal, pro-life, but I despise the terminology of pro-life / pro-choice, and I would not consider myself to be by any means representative of a United States "liberal." |
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LostSoul3412
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Lumina wrote: Can future polls provide a category for those of us who aren't "conservative" OR "liberal"?
Probably not, as that would require tolerance and understanding... two things you would be short-pressed to find upon these forums. |
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TheCaliforniaLife
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skinn wrote: agentkgb wrote: TheCaliforniaLife wrote: I'm a pro-life who is a stanch liberal.
Pro-life all around or just against abortion?
I think we are talking about abortion here. I am for example, against abortion but support doctor suppervised suicide or any suicide.
Every person has the right to do for himself whatever he wants, if he wants to kill himself, no one has the right to stop him. (if he doesn't injure anyone else in this process)
But abortion is killing another person, the baby is not a property of the mother, so she doesn't have the right to kill him.
Exactly. More or less, if I wanted to write my stance on abortion more accurately, it would be anti-abortion unless the pregnant women will die from the pregnancy/giving birth. That seems a little... extensive. |
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