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F'losrix
Joined: 17 Nov 2004
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Location: Michigan, Washtenaw County
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| Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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LDA wrote: My favorite argument from the left, thus far, has been, "Well, well...the republicans knew he was gay!" You've heard this, haven't you? So, the republicans knew he was gay. Was this enough to go ahead and report him to authorities? Is being gay a crime now?
I'm sorry, but if those of you that consider gay rights to be of great importance in this country, how can you turn a blind eye to what's going on here?
Proof that this is what they're saying, please? 'Cuz from where I sit, it looks like what they're saying is that the Republicans knew he had an inappropriate interest in young pages, not that the Republicans knew he was gay. |
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Enoch
Joined: 29 Aug 2005
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| Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 12:35 am Post subject: |
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F'losrix wrote: LDA wrote: My favorite argument from the left, thus far, has been, "Well, well...the republicans knew he was gay!" You've heard this, haven't you? So, the republicans knew he was gay. Was this enough to go ahead and report him to authorities? Is being gay a crime now?
I'm sorry, but if those of you that consider gay rights to be of great importance in this country, how can you turn a blind eye to what's going on here?
Proof that this is what they're saying, please? 'Cuz from where I sit, it looks like what they're saying is that the Republicans knew he had an inappropriate interest in young pages, not that the Republicans knew he was gay. However, even if that were true, it is hardly a crime to have an interest in underage children. The crime is in the act, not the thought. |
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Babylon_Horuv
Joined: 15 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:39 am Post subject: |
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Enoch wrote: F'losrix wrote: If you think it's bad now, just wait. Foley may turn out to be exactly the sort of 'poster boy' the anti-gay crowd have been waiting for.
Is anyone taking odds on whether Foley will do the 'ex-gay' thing next? Wouldn't come as any surprise to me.
I wouldn't be surprised either. Then the right-wing crowd will claim that because Foley "can be cured," then the rest of us can.
I don't see that convincing anyone. Foley abused his power, In a similar way to Bill Clinton. I don't really care all that much and I wish people would go back to focusing on real issues like gay marraige and the war. |
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Babylon_Horuv
Joined: 15 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:41 am Post subject: Re: Foley and "the gay problem"!!! |
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StrangerWitCandy wrote: F'losrix wrote: toddytodd wrote: Perhaps I didn't look at it strictly enough, but I just don't see it as being any more detrimental to gays than any other scandal is to anyone else.
The potential danger is in people making the illogical leap to proclaim that homosexuality = pedophilia, or homosexual = sexual predator, or homosexual = corrupters of vulnerable teens. All the hype is just going to reinforce some peoples' entrenched opinions about homosexuality, and possibly persuade many others who have been straddling the fence to leap off and stand on the anti-gay side.
I've already heard the "this is what we get for allowing known/suspected homosexuals in our party" line.
I wish the Republicans would come out and proclaim themselves Racist Homophobes, it would scare off a lot of tolerant economic conservatives. |
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