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programmusic · Joined: 22 Apr 2006 Posts: 1336

to make them see authority figures as brilliantly smart, all powerful and bent on subjugating everyone. How does that tie into childhood and the relationships with parents, teachers etc?

Snake · Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 12:50 pm Post subject:

Children are brought up to respect authority from the beginning, starting with the parents. Authority is a sign of dominance, and dominance is not only respected by humans, but by all living things. As for brilliant or subjagating, that depends on the leader being discussed at the time.

Medius · Joined: 10 May 2006 Posts: 4204 Location: Kansas

I'm not sure what kind of childhood you had, but I was taught to question authority when it is important to do so.

Snake · Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:15 pm Post subject:

Medius wrote: I'm not sure what kind of childhood you had.... And what exactly is that supposed to mean? Children learn to respect authority by growing up and living with their parent(s)/guardian/fosterparent(s)/orphanage/anything else that's available. The parent(s)/guardian/fosterparent(s)/orphanage/anything else that's available are the authority in the home, what they say, you do. That's what I'm talking about

Medius · Joined: 10 May 2006 Posts: 4204 Location: Kansas

Kamel wrote: Medius wrote: I'm not sure what kind of childhood you had.... And what exactly is that supposed to mean? Children learn to respect authority by growing up and living with their parent(s)/guardian/fosterparent(s)/orphanage/anything else that's available. The parent(s)/guardian/fosterparent(s)/orphanage/anything else that's available are the authority in the home, what they say, you do. That's what I'm talking about

And that's why I should hit the quote button instead of the post button. I was actually referring to the OP.

I agree that children learn to respect authority if their parents should enforce such authority. I respected the authority of my parents, but they taught me not to default trust to other figures of authority. That's not to say I shouldn't listen to figures of authority, but rather, I should always make a concious decision of whether my best interests are served in doing what is being asked of me.

programmusic · Joined: 22 Apr 2006 Posts: 1336

I'm talking about in regards to people who think the U.S.A. commited 9/11 and control absolutely everything in the country(and world).

Mighty Oak · Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:36 pm Post subject:

programmusic wrote: I'm talking about in regards to people who think the U.S.A. commited 9/11 and control absolutely everything in the country(and world). No one has absolute control over the world,but that is what they(Powers That Be) want.The U.S. Government have done some of the most horrible things in the past(Freedom of Information Act) and they are still doing horrible thing now.They have a terrible record.History has shown over and over again that Governments do NOT work for the betterment of mankind.

As far as 911 is concerned,there is a hell-of-alot of coincidences,and quite frankly I don't see how people can overlook them.PNAC(Project for a New American Century),a think tank group of neo-cons,wanted just this scenario,given all of this,I believe it is quite logical to demand a truly independent investigation into 911.

NAB · Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:43 pm Post subject:

Mighty Oak wrote: programmusic wrote: I'm talking about in regards to people who think the U.S.A. commited 9/11 and control absolutely everything in the country(and world). No one has absolute control over the world,but that is what they(Powers That Be) want.The U.S. Government have done some of the most horrible things in the past(Freedom of Information Act) and they are still doing horrible thing now.They have a terrible record.History has shown over and over again that Governments do NOT work for the betterment of mankind.

As far as 911 is concerned,there is a hell-of-alot of coincidences,and quite frankly I don't see how people can overlook them.PNAC(Project for a New American Century),a think tank group of neo-cons,wanted just this scenario,given all of this,I believe it is quite logical to demand a truly independent investigation into 911.

Well if you're going to offer up PNAC as proof of an inside job or even evidence of a future World Government, then maybe we don't have as much to worry about as you might think. Their powers of "prescience" have proven to be failed, off the mark, incompetent, and downright ludicrous.

You should catch the current version of Bill Maher's show on HBO this week (which they repeat). He has a pretty damned funny commentary on PNAC (and Think Tank's in general), that pretty much sums them up. I believe the Magic 8-Ball is offered up as more accurate predictor of events. :lol:

Mighty Oak · Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:48 pm Post subject:

NAB wrote: Mighty Oak wrote: programmusic wrote: I'm talking about in regards to people who think the U.S.A. commited 9/11 and control absolutely everything in the country(and world). No one has absolute control over the world,but that is what they(Powers That Be) want.The U.S. Government have done some of the most horrible things in the past(Freedom of Information Act) and they are still doing horrible thing now.They have a terrible record.History has shown over and over again that Governments do NOT work for the betterment of mankind.

As far as 911 is concerned,there is a hell-of-alot of coincidences,and quite frankly I don't see how people can overlook them.PNAC(Project for a New American Century),a think tank group of neo-cons,wanted just this scenario,given all of this,I believe it is quite logical to demand a truly independent investigation into 911.

Well if you're going to offer up PNAC as proof of an inside job or even evidence of a future World Government, then maybe we don't have as much to worry about as you might think. Their powers of "prescience" have proven to be failed, off the mark, incompetent, and downright ludicrous.

You should catch the current version of Bill Maher's show on HBO this week (which they repeat). He has a pretty damned funny commentary on PNAC (and Think Tank's in general), that pretty much sums them up. I believe the Magic 8-Ball is offered up as more accurate predictor of events. :lol: Sorry but I fail to see humor in think tanks.CFR,PNAC and the many other's that have an incredible influence in our world and,as far as I know,never good.If B Maher is down playing them,then shame on him,they are quite powerful.

NAB · Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:54 pm Post subject:

Mighty Oak wrote: NAB wrote: Mighty Oak wrote: programmusic wrote: I'm talking about in regards to people who think the U.S.A. commited 9/11 and control absolutely everything in the country(and world). No one has absolute control over the world,but that is what they(Powers That Be) want.The U.S. Government have done some of the most horrible things in the past(Freedom of Information Act) and they are still doing horrible thing now.They have a terrible record.History has shown over and over again that Governments do NOT work for the betterment of mankind.

As far as 911 is concerned,there is a hell-of-alot of coincidences,and quite frankly I don't see how people can overlook them.PNAC(Project for a New American Century),a think tank group of neo-cons,wanted just this scenario,given all of this,I believe it is quite logical to demand a truly independent investigation into 911.

Well if you're going to offer up PNAC as proof of an inside job or even evidence of a future World Government, then maybe we don't have as much to worry about as you might think. Their powers of "prescience" have proven to be failed, off the mark, incompetent, and downright ludicrous.

You should catch the current version of Bill Maher's show on HBO this week (which they repeat). He has a pretty damned funny commentary on PNAC (and Think Tank's in general), that pretty much sums them up. I believe the Magic 8-Ball is offered up as more accurate predictor of events. :lol: Sorry but I fail to see humor in think tanks.CFR,PNAC and the many other's that have an incredible influence in our world and,as far as I know,never good.If B Maher is down playing them,then shame on him,they are quite powerful.

It falls more into the can't help laughing for crying category. He was merely pointing out how incompetent they have been. PNAC's actions (at least in relation to Iraq), don't necessarily put them in the "able to control the world" category. They can't even get the lights on in Baghdad, and these are the "calibre" of people who will control the entire planet? That dog won't hunt.

Snake · Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:01 pm Post subject:

Medius wrote: And that's why I should hit the quote button instead of the post button. I was actually referring to the OP.

I agree that children learn to respect authority if their parents should enforce such authority. I respected the authority of my parents, but they taught me not to default trust to other figures of authority. That's not to say I shouldn't listen to figures of authority, but rather, I should always make a concious decision of whether my best interests are served in doing what is being asked of me. Ok, nevermind then...

Mighty Oak · Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:06 pm Post subject:

NAB wrote: Mighty Oak wrote: NAB wrote: Mighty Oak wrote: programmusic wrote: I'm talking about in regards to people who think the U.S.A. commited 9/11 and control absolutely everything in the country(and world). No one has absolute control over the world,but that is what they(Powers That Be) want.The U.S. Government have done some of the most horrible things in the past(Freedom of Information Act) and they are still doing horrible thing now.They have a terrible record.History has shown over and over again that Governments do NOT work for the betterment of mankind.

As far as 911 is concerned,there is a hell-of-alot of coincidences,and quite frankly I don't see how people can overlook them.PNAC(Project for a New American Century),a think tank group of neo-cons,wanted just this scenario,given all of this,I believe it is quite logical to demand a truly independent investigation into 911.

Well if you're going to offer up PNAC as proof of an inside job or even evidence of a future World Government, then maybe we don't have as much to worry about as you might think. Their powers of "prescience" have proven to be failed, off the mark, incompetent, and downright ludicrous.

You should catch the current version of Bill Maher's show on HBO this week (which they repeat). He has a pretty damned funny commentary on PNAC (and Think Tank's in general), that pretty much sums them up. I believe the Magic 8-Ball is offered up as more accurate predictor of events. :lol: Sorry but I fail to see humor in think tanks.CFR,PNAC and the many other's that have an incredible influence in our world and,as far as I know,never good.If B Maher is down playing them,then shame on him,they are quite powerful.

It falls more into the can't help laughing for crying category. He was merely pointing out how incompetent they have been. PNAC's actions (at least in relation to Iraq), don't necessarily put them in the "able to control the world" category. They can't even get the lights on in Baghdad, and these are the "calibre" of people who will control the entire planet? That dog won't hunt. I agree that PNAC is incompetent.As far as PNAC or the people in PNAC controlling the world,LOL,no the're not the ones.They are just a faction out for for themselves while helping the PTB's agenda.If they would decide not to help the PTB agenda they would be destroyed and not get away with the things they are getting away with.

NAB · Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:10 pm Post subject:

Mighty Oak wrote: NAB wrote: Mighty Oak wrote: NAB wrote: Mighty Oak wrote: programmusic wrote: I'm talking about in regards to people who think the U.S.A. commited 9/11 and control absolutely everything in the country(and world). No one has absolute control over the world,but that is what they(Powers That Be) want.The U.S. Government have done some of the most horrible things in the past(Freedom of Information Act) and they are still doing horrible thing now.They have a terrible record.History has shown over and over again that Governments do NOT work for the betterment of mankind.

As far as 911 is concerned,there is a hell-of-alot of coincidences,and quite frankly I don't see how people can overlook them.PNAC(Project for a New American Century),a think tank group of neo-cons,wanted just this scenario,given all of this,I believe it is quite logical to demand a truly independent investigation into 911.

Well if you're going to offer up PNAC as proof of an inside job or even evidence of a future World Government, then maybe we don't have as much to worry about as you might think. Their powers of "prescience" have proven to be failed, off the mark, incompetent, and downright ludicrous.

You should catch the current version of Bill Maher's show on HBO this week (which they repeat). He has a pretty damned funny commentary on PNAC (and Think Tank's in general), that pretty much sums them up. I believe the Magic 8-Ball is offered up as more accurate predictor of events. :lol: Sorry but I fail to see humor in think tanks.CFR,PNAC and the many other's that have an incredible influence in our world and,as far as I know,never good.If B Maher is down playing them,then shame on him,they are quite powerful.

It falls more into the can't help laughing for crying category. He was merely pointing out how incompetent they have been. PNAC's actions (at least in relation to Iraq), don't necessarily put them in the "able to control the world" category. They can't even get the lights on in Baghdad, and these are the "calibre" of people who will control the entire planet? That dog won't hunt. I agree that PNAC is incompetent.As far as PNAC or the people in PNAC controlling the world,LOL,no the're not the ones.They are just a faction out for for themselves while helping the PTB's agenda.If they would decide not to help the PTB agenda they would be destroyed and not get away with the things they are getting away with.

I guess there are PTB's and then there are PTB's.