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[Patriot911]

krims wrote: Quote: Want to know why conspiracy theorists lack any kind of credibility? Two reasons. First is that they will support almost any conspiracy theory out there to the death.

You just lied right there.

Conspiracy theorists like me and psholtz only support what we truly believe, and the only way you have of disproving it is by showing us why we're wrong. So far we've explained ourselves many times in the hopes that you would understand us and we would find common ground. Instead we find that you resort to dirty tricks to make us look bad in front of everyone else. Well I know for a fact that I only argue for what I believe in, and you cannot get me to believe a lie about myself because I know myself better than any other person.

:roll: Bullsh!t. First off, I am talking in general and don't even say EVERY conspiracy theory. Show me ONE conspiracy theorist who has changed his mind and said, "You know what? There really isn't a conspiracy." This thread is a perfect example as I already pointed out. I've made it extremely clear that the Ashcroft threat assessment couldn't have any ties to 9/11. Nobody has even addressed my points, much less refuted them, yet the thread marches on. Norrin Radd was so obsessed with unreasonably holding on to the belief that there MUST be some kind of tie we're not being told about that he blew a fuse.

As for making you look bad, you do that all on your own. I don't have to do a single thing. There are no dirty tricks I have to resort to. I don't have to lie like you appear to be fond of. What you call "twisting your words" is just restating what you've stated. If we've restated it wrong, then you are more than free to correct us and tell us what you "really" meant, but we are not mind readers and you aren't the best writer so there are bound to be times where you write something totally foolish like you've done in this thread and people call you on it. It was obviously not what you meant but it irrefuteably WAS what you wrote.

Here, I'll explain it for you since you still appear to be very confused.

Krims wrote: I'm not going to try to prove anything for your benefit just to have you knock it down.

See, to "knock an argument down" means to debunk it. It means to prove that an argument is wrong or fatally flawed. It is a tacit acknowledgement by you that no matter what you try and prove I am going to prove it is wrong, thus you are doomed to failure. Is it what you meant? No. Is it what your words say? Yes.

[Norrin Radd]

krims wrote: I'm not going to try to prove anything for your benefit just to have you knock it down. Everything that needs to be said has already been said. Let people read what we wrote and judge for themselves. Let them see how you constantly throw unnecessary personal insults at everyone who disagrees with you. Let them see what Norrin Radd was trying to say and let them see how you tried to twist the meaning and intention of everything he said.

tHANKS FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

It seems Patriot 911 is not able to realize that not all people involed in the coverup of a crime were directly involved in the crime itself.

[Norrin Radd]

MG1962 wrote: Now we have multiple levels of government involved in a conspiracy, literally hundreds of people needing to be coached controled and monitored to pull it of.

Yet one man makes this statement, that means the entire operation is compromised. And it is not hidden in some secret memo or unearthed by a nosey reporter. It is a matter of very public record.

What frustrates me the most is the real conspiracy issues. The real underhanded activites. The real unexplainable events are being ignored in favour of the these paper tigers

How many people were involved in the MKULTRA experiments? How many projects and sub-projects were there?

How many people were involed in spraying biological agents and simulants on the Americans people?

What real conspiracy issues are you referring to?

[Patriot911]

Norrin Radd wrote: krims wrote: I'm not going to try to prove anything for your benefit just to have you knock it down. Everything that needs to be said has already been said. Let people read what we wrote and judge for themselves. Let them see how you constantly throw unnecessary personal insults at everyone who disagrees with you. Let them see what Norrin Radd was trying to say and let them see how you tried to twist the meaning and intention of everything he said.

tHANKS FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

It seems Patriot 911 is not able to realize that not all people involed in the coverup of a crime were directly involved in the crime itself.

It seems you are unable to comprehend the simple fact that anyone covering up a crime is guilty of helping in that crime and can be convicted of doing so. Ignorance personified.

[Snake]

beachbum bob wrote: (CBS) Fishing rod in hand, Attorney General John Ashcroft left on a weekend trip to Missouri Thursday afternoon aboard a chartered government jet, reports CBS News Correspondent Jim Stewart. Here's your answer right there in the bold print, everytime a bell rings, an Ashcroft gets it's wings...

[NAB]

Kamel wrote: beachbum bob wrote: (CBS) Fishing rod in hand, Attorney General John Ashcroft left on a weekend trip to Missouri Thursday afternoon aboard a chartered government jet, reports CBS News Correspondent Jim Stewart. Here's your answer right there in the bold print, everytime a bell rings, an Ashcroft gets it's wings...

Those would obviously be an Eagle's wings..........

"Let the eagle soar,
Like she’s never soared before.
From rocky coast to golden shore,
Let the mighty eagle soar.
Soar with healing in her wings,
As the land beneath her sings:
'Only god, no other kings.'
This country’s far too young to die.
We’ve still got a lot of climbing to do,
And we can make it if we try.
Built by toils and struggles
God has led us through."

[Snake]

God, I remember that. I give it a 1 out of 5