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Malcolm Kyle · Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:20 pm Post subject: Is cannabis a sacrament?

There are those of us who believe that cannabis is a sacrament, that it is the spiritual bread which transubstantiates as the eucharist.

cap'n queasy · Joined: 15 May 2004 Posts: 34968

So when you smoke a joint it literally turns into a chunk of Christ's flesh?

How does it stay lit?

Malcolm Kyle · Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 4:36 pm Post subject:

You don't smoke a joint you suck on a vap

perdidochas · Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 15372 Location: Florida

Man, I wish I knew someone that worked for the DEA......

cap'n queasy · Joined: 15 May 2004 Posts: 34968

Malcolm Kyle wrote: You don't smoke a joint you suck on a vap

How does it stay lit?

Saracen · Joined: 01 Dec 2005 Posts: 15867 Location: On Earth

That's like a hookah. :-D

Anyways, I'm of the belief that drugs are sacrilegious.

Carry on...

John · Joined: 02 Jun 2004 Posts: 22948

Saracen wrote: That's like a hookah. :-D

Anyways, I'm of the belief that drugs are sacrilegious.

Carry on...

Wouldn't that prove his point if they are "sacrilegious"?

John · Joined: 02 Jun 2004 Posts: 22948

cap'n queasy wrote: Malcolm Kyle wrote: You don't smoke a joint you suck on a vap

How does it stay lit?

He's faking a hit. :lol:

Green · Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:41 am Post subject:

Wait a second. You mean that there is a religion that gets high off of Eucharists.

Saracen · Joined: 01 Dec 2005 Posts: 15867 Location: On Earth

John wrote: Wouldn't that prove his point if they are "sacrilegious"?

Well, hang on a sec. I don't know how cannabis is somewhat legal in this case, but if you can, please point out clearly the Christian position on cannabis and how it relates to "Jesus's flesh" as implied to in the OP. Also, drugs alter and harm the body. The Prophet (pbuh) said that everything that intoxicates your body in such a way is khamr and all khamr is haram (forbidden).

I just said that the object looked like a hookah. I personally hate them.

John · Joined: 02 Jun 2004 Posts: 22948

Saracen wrote: John wrote: Wouldn't that prove his point if they are "sacrilegious"?

Well, hang on a sec. I don't know how cannabis is somewhat legal in this case, but if you can, please point out clearly the Christian position on cannabis and how it relates to "Jesus's flesh" as implied to in the OP. Also, drugs alter and harm the body. The Prophet (pbuh) said that everything that intoxicates your body in such a way is khamr and all khamr is haram (forbidden).

I just said that the object looked like a hookah. I personally hate them.

Sacrilegious just seems like the wrong word.

Malcolm Kyle · Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 12:04 pm Post subject:

The use of entheogens in religious practice is not as strange as we've been led to believe.

For instance, holy anointing oil, as described in the original Hebrew version of the recipe in Exodus (30:22-23), contained over six pounds of kaneh-bosem, a substance identified by respected etymologists, linguists, anthropologists, botanists and other researchers as cannabis, extracted into about six quarts of olive oil, along with a variety of other fragrant herbs. The ancient anointed ones were literally drenched in this potent mixture.

And hasn't anyone heard of the religious use of Peyote or Ayahuasca?

Saracen · Joined: 01 Dec 2005 Posts: 15867 Location: On Earth

John wrote: Sacrilegious just seems like the wrong word.

John, why harm your body on purpose? Isn't that akin to destroying your own flesh? Please explain to me, John, why you believe that sacrilegious is not the right word.

Malcolm Kyle wrote: The use of entiogens in religious practice is not as strange as we've been led to believe.

For instance, holy anointing oil, as described in the original Hebrew version of the recipe in Exodus (30:22-23), contained over six pounds of kaneh-bosem, a substance identified by respected etymologists, linguists, anthropologists, botanists and other researchers as cannabis, extracted into about six quarts of olive oil, along with a variety of other fragrant herbs. The ancient anointed ones were literally drenched in this potent mixture.

And hasn't anyone heard of the religious use of Peyote or Ayahuasca?

But here's the question: what do these things really do to you? I mean, do they have some sort of power that is associated with religious practice?

Please, enlighten me.

cap'n queasy · Joined: 15 May 2004 Posts: 34968

Quote: a substance identified by respected etymologists, linguists, anthropologists, botanists and other researchers as cannabis,

That is pure speculation.

melchizedek22 · Joined: 27 Apr 2006 Posts: 370 Location: Holy Toledo

Malcolm Kyle wrote:
There are those of us who believe that cannabis is a sacrament, that it is the spiritual bread which transubstantiates as the eucharist.

Genesis 3 vs 22"What if the man ate of the Tree of Life and lived forever"?

melchizedek22 · Joined: 27 Apr 2006 Posts: 370 Location: Holy Toledo

Saracen wrote: That's like a hookah. :-D

Anyways, I'm of the belief that drugs are sacrilegious.

Carry on...

Pots a plant you put a seed in the ground,it comes up!Its not made by Pfiser!

Saracen · Joined: 01 Dec 2005 Posts: 15867 Location: On Earth

melchizedek wrote: Pots a plant you put a seed in the ground,it comes up!Its not made by Pfiser!

:rotf: ...

...

...Ok, what were you trying to say regarding the topic at hand?

Malcolm Kyle · Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 5:57 am Post subject:

Saracen wrote: John wrote: Sacrilegious just seems like the wrong word.

John, why harm your body on purpose? Isn't that akin to destroying your own flesh? Please explain to me, John, why you believe that sacrilegious is not the right word.

Malcolm Kyle wrote: The use of entiogens in religious practice is not as strange as we've been led to believe.

For instance, holy anointing oil, as described in the original Hebrew version of the recipe in Exodus (30:22-23), contained over six pounds of kaneh-bosem, a substance identified by respected etymologists, linguists, anthropologists, botanists and other researchers as cannabis, extracted into about six quarts of olive oil, along with a variety of other fragrant herbs. The ancient anointed ones were literally drenched in this potent mixture.

And hasn't anyone heard of the religious use of Peyote or Ayahuasca?

But here's the question: what do these things really do to you? I mean, do they have some sort of power that is associated with religious practice?

Please, enlighten me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entheogen

http://www.csp.org/practices/entheogens/entheogens.html

http://www.erowid.org/entheogens/entheogens.shtml

melchizedek22 · Joined: 27 Apr 2006 Posts: 370 Location: Holy Toledo

Saracen wrote: melchizedek wrote: Pots a plant you put a seed in the ground,it comes up!Its not made by Pfiser!

:rotf: ...

...

...Ok, what were you trying to say regarding the topic at hand?

Marijuana is the Tree of Life!Genesis 3 vs 22 It is the Body of Christ!

If you want the Angel of Death to Passover you,eat the body of the Passover Lamb!

Saracen · Joined: 01 Dec 2005 Posts: 15867 Location: On Earth

I guess I'll take your word for this. I'll do some research on it as well. Thanks.