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Atlas Bergeron wrote: "I may not agree with what you say but I will fight to the death for your right to say it"--Voltair

Great quote!!
That quote is true, especially for me. Im a christian and I think that satanists should be allowed to worship how ever they want. I think its ridiculous that theres even a question that satanists should NOT be allowed to practice. The most definately should, Most modern western civilizations were founded on the beliefs of equality and freedom.

[Snake]

Yes. it should be allowed. It's not my thing, but who am I to condemn it.

[thehollowman]

I think their public practices should be restricted, but in private they can do whatever they want.

[Enoch]

thehollowman wrote: I think their public practices should be restricted, but in private they can do whatever they want. Why should they have the same rights to practice their faith in public as Christianity, Islam, Judiasm, etc?

[perdidochas]

criticalstriker wrote: What do you think of satanists?

I think they are the ultimate rebellious teenagers......

[StrangerWitCandy]

Anyone ever find it funny that satanists can get married by the state with no problem or objection from social conservatives, even though marriage is apparently a solely 'sacred religious' institution according to them?

And yet a gay Christian couple can't?

Funny how selective people can be sometimes.

[perdidochas]

Casualtie wrote: although i don't approve of it, we have no right to tell satanists what they do is wrong. they have freedom of religion the same as any of us do and we can't abolish that right simply because we think what they do is "barbaric."

Of course we have the right to tell them they are wrong. That is part of freedom of speech. They have the right to tell me I'm wrong. Wrong, or not, though, they should have the right to their religious beliefs.

Casualtie wrote: if i remember correctly, satanists sacrifice things (i think young children, i don't know, thats what i've heard). in any case, we are not able to criminalize them because it is part of their religion and the government has know right to tell them what they believe is wrong. actually, now that i think about it, one of the satanist commandments is not to harm an innocent child, so i guess it is just animals. ya. that would make more sense.

Well, killing humans is a criminal act because it harms someone and deprives them of their right to life which has precedence over religious rights, that is not protected by freedom of religion. Whether sacrificing animals for religious reasons is allowed is controversial (and is a major issue in south Florida, with Santeria, not Satanism).

[criticalstriker]

I really wish this thread would die i have said it three times now i made a mistake with teh post o.o

[CursedLemon]

Depends on what Satanism you're talking about.

There's Satanism as in worship the devil, and then there's Satanism as in worship yourself.

Either way, Satanism is a crock of s**t.

[Corona]

There are 2 forms of Satanism. The old school version, where demons are actually worshipped. Foolishness in my opinion, but no more foolish than any other religion (Btw, Lucifer means 'Lightbringer', kind of ironic don't you think?).

The newer version was created by a man known as Anton LaVey, whom also created the Church of Satan, and described it as "a ritualized form of athiesm". Modern Satanism worships the self and holds hedonism as a centerpiece in the religion. Modern Satanism actually has a quite a few good ideas and points.

Remember, don't curse or deface an ideal or object unless you have researched/experienced/used it.


hedonism
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hedonism

modern satanism
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/2026/modsat.html


First post

[johnflesh]

Should be allowed where?

In America? It has to be...
In American classrooms? No.
In my home? No.
In my community? Why not. Any damage they could do to the community would simply fall right in their own laps at the end of the day.

Do I think they are evil?
No.

There are good people and bad people. Evil is a word that is used to describe bad people for the bad things that to do, to make them look even worse.

[Alyssa M.]

criticalstriker wrote: What do you think of satanists? Well, I knew a satanist. not friend with him anymore. I refuse to associate with him now, he's gotten into bad stuff. The real reason I put no though is because Satan isn't a God he's a fallen angel. Also he doesn't deserve to be worshiped even by the most evil people.

[Zombie3785]

Yes I of course it should be allowed.

Let me explain though I am Satanic not a Satanist. Satanism is simply Christianity turned upside down by Anton Szander LaVey. Without Christianity there wouldn't be his ridiculous Satanism. But, The Fallen Angel, Satan, that stood up against the bringer of hunger, the locust master, the one that drowned the world, absolutely should be worshiped. Much more than your jealous God of false mercy Christians worship. Tell me, what did Satan get kicked out of heaven for? Who did Satan ever kill? Why is Satan so wrong?

[mojo]

Zombie3785 wrote: Yes I of course it should be allowed.

Let me explain though I am Satanic not a Satanist. Satanism is simply Christianity turned upside down by Anton Szander LaVey. Without Christianity there wouldn't be his ridiculous Satanism. But, The Fallen Angel, Satan, that stood up against the bringer of hunger, the locust master, the one that drowned the world, absolutely should be worshiped. Much more than your jealous God of false mercy Christians worship. Tell me, what did Satan get kicked out of heaven for? Who did Satan ever kill? Why is Satan so wrong?

Satan stands for nothing but evil. Why would you worship an entity which wishes to kill, destroy and lie to.

Satan chose to leave heavan by disobeying the will of God. Therefore it was his choices that cast him into the eternal fire.

[Corona]

hehehe

[John]

Allowed by who? In the end..it will not be allowed.

[Zombie3785]

mojo wrote: Zombie3785 wrote: Yes I of course it should be allowed.

Let me explain though I am Satanic not a Satanist. Satanism is simply Christianity turned upside down by Anton Szander LaVey. Without Christianity there wouldn't be his ridiculous Satanism. But, The Fallen Angel, Satan, that stood up against the bringer of hunger, the locust master, the one that drowned the world, absolutely should be worshiped. Much more than your jealous God of false mercy Christians worship. Tell me, what did Satan get kicked out of heaven for? Who did Satan ever kill? Why is Satan so wrong?

Satan stands for nothing but evil. Why would you worship an entity which wishes to kill, destroy and lie to.

Satan chose to leave heavan by disobeying the will of God. Therefore it was his choices that cast him into the eternal fire.

Your holy book says Satan is nothing but a liar and a sinner but only through God's eyes. Satan was kicked out of heaven for refusing to bow down and obey. Like the Muslims to the western world, you fear my freedom and call me evil. Christianity says follow your leader as he commands. Satan stands for questioning authority, self-motivation, self-competence. Satan is the one that gave Eve the forbidden apple so that humans could see for themselves what is truely right and wrong.

[Dragoon]

Corona wrote:

hehehe

Pwnd! :lol:

[eynon]

issaiah1332 wrote: Many seem to forget that satanists do not worship satan, they worship the iconography. They believe in self-gratification and they believe that this is what satan stands for. They dont believe in a physical satan but in the idea of.

Note I am not a satanist...

Ask, for whether or not they should be allowed, of course! Like most, satanism is a religion and should be respected no matter how outrageous their beliefs.

for most of the Satanists I've met the only gratification they can get is self-gratification.......... :wink:

[eynon]

Corona wrote:

hehehe

this is a no-brainer for me.........you worship the diety with more smitting power 8:)