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[Wizard From Oz]

Quote: The sheeple won't wake up until they are eaten by a giant lizzard!

Can we leave Godzilla out of this - He already explained he wasnt on the grassy knoll....Enough already :-o

[Mighty Oak]

MG1962 wrote: Quote: The sheeple won't wake up until they are eaten by a giant lizzard!

Can we leave Godzilla out of this - He already explained he wasnt on the grassy knoll....Enough already :-o No,I believe he is refering to the reptiles like the ones dipicted throughout history.You know like the one on the Alfa romero logo and the one enbedded in the yard at the house of the prime minister of Italy,whats his name?Buesoliny(spel?)

[Wizard From Oz]

Quote: No,I believe he is refering to the reptiles like the ones dipicted throughout history.You know like the one on the Alfa romero logo and the one enbedded in the yard at the house of the prime minister of Italy,whats his name?Buesoliny(spel?)

Ohh - The evil reptilian overlords TM - sorry what was I thinking :shifty: Okay I will l just move along quietly then

[Mighty Oak]

MG1962 wrote: Quote: No,I believe he is refering to the reptiles like the ones dipicted throughout history.You know like the one on the Alfa romero logo and the one enbedded in the yard at the house of the prime minister of Italy,whats his name?Buesoliny(spel?)

Ohh - The evil reptilian overlords TM - sorry what was I thinking :shifty: Okay I will l just move along quietly then Ok but to just move along quietly won't save you.I thought you may want to know that.

[Patriot911]

It still baffles me that so many people out there let the conspiracy sites do all their thinking for them. They don't bother to check the facts. They just go about spewing the same garbage over and over again with no clue how stupid they look when they spout obvious lies. Wonder if Sleepy will stick around long enough to try and defend his claims. I sure would like to see some of this proof every conspiracy theorist goes on and on about yet fails to produce.

[Mighty Oak]

Patriot911 wrote: It still baffles me that so many people out there let the conspiracy sites do all their thinking for them. They don't bother to check the facts. They just go about spewing the same garbage over and over again with no clue how stupid they look when they spout obvious lies. Wonder if Sleepy will stick around long enough to try and defend his claims. I sure would like to see some of this proof every conspiracy theorist goes on and on about yet fails to produce. Lets dispell this myth that people who believe this don't think for themselves.I have never met anyone who did not do their own research on this stuff,ever.In fact,once one gets started at looking for truths,you don't stop,it's rather addicting or obsessive,take your pick.You obviously don't believe much of anything exept the official word so I wouldnt expect you to dive into it.We are not bad people in any sense of the word,hell we care about the truth and want it out in the open,thats not a bad thing.As you are aware of,more and more people are seeing just what many others see,now,do you think that people should just laugh at,I dare say,nearly half of the population,or do we launch an independent investigation into what others,including myself believe.Which is the official story is patently false.People don't readily give you info because those of us who have been on these sites know what to expect and the only way that anyone will see this is if they have the desire to open their minds and whatever they find as truth must be accepted as the truth.I know you know what I am saying here because you have been doing the same thing only on the other side.My desire is to inspire people to look for themselves,not to be told what to believe but to want to know just what all the fuss is about.If you think were all crazy,well thats not going to cut it,way too many of us now.So what is it that makes us keep growing?Maybe were on to something.BTW I don't look stupid,to you maybe but not to all,so please keep it civil.We are not your enemy,we are concerned people.

[letfreedomring]

why is this not a troll post? he merely listed a bunch of links without posting his opinions for a debate. Half of the points listed are not even substantiated....

[Mighty Oak]

letfreedomring wrote: why is this not a troll post? he merely listed a bunch of links without posting his opinions for a debate. Half of the points listed are not even substantiated.... What makes you compelled to say what you said? I'm curious.I mean,I'm sure you heard all this before,why bump it?

[Wizard From Oz]

Quote: What makes you compelled to say what you said? I'm curious.I mean,I'm sure you heard all this before,why bump it?

Well so far no one has responded to the three points I raised

[Patriot911]

Mighty Oak wrote: Patriot911 wrote: It still baffles me that so many people out there let the conspiracy sites do all their thinking for them. They don't bother to check the facts. They just go about spewing the same garbage over and over again with no clue how stupid they look when they spout obvious lies. Wonder if Sleepy will stick around long enough to try and defend his claims. I sure would like to see some of this proof every conspiracy theorist goes on and on about yet fails to produce.

Lets dispell this myth that people who believe this don't think for themselves.I have never met anyone who did not do their own research on this stuff,ever.

Reading CT sites and swallowing their garbage whole does not constitute research. Want proof? Read Sleepy's initial post. So much wrong information from CT sites that even very casual research would have shown was wrong. How can you claim he does research when even the simple facts are wrong? And if the simple facts are wrong, how can the end conclusions come up right? They can't.

Mighty Oak wrote: In fact,once one gets started at looking for truths,you don't stop,it's rather addicting or obsessive,take your pick.You obviously don't believe much of anything exept the official word so I wouldnt expect you to dive into it.

This is where you couldn't be more wrong. I've been to the CT sites. I've watched the videos. I've DONE the research. I've checked the CT site claims and found them seriously wanting. Your childish claims I only believe the official word is nothing but a pathetic attempt at an insult. I have stated repeatedly that the official story has holes and we're more than likely not being told the whole truth. What I AM doing is pointing out the HUGE GLARING HOLES in every single one of the conspiracy theories that not one of you 9/11 deniers has been able to explain.

Oh.... and I'm still waiting for a single piece of hard evidence.

Mighty Oak wrote: We are not bad people in any sense of the word,hell we care about the truth and want it out in the open,thats not a bad thing.

Where did I say you were bad people? I question your sanity. I question your motives. I question your ethics. But I've never said you are "bad people". And to be clear, when I say "you", I am not talking about you in particular but 9/11 deniers in general.

As for caring about the truth, I sincerely doubt that. Some of the CTers on this forum I KNOW don't want to find the truth because they know the truth isn't what they want to hear.

Mighty Oak wrote: As you are aware of,more and more people are seeing just what many others see,now,do you think that people should just laugh at,I dare say,nearly half of the population,or do we launch an independent investigation into what others,including myself believe.

Half of the population? :lol: You need to really quit swallowing the garbage polls out there. Half the population questions the official story and believes we don't know the whole story. I fit in that catagory. That doesn't mean we swallow the garbage conspiracy theories. I know lots of people who question the official story. I don't personally know of a single person who actually believes the CT stories, so don't try selling your crap that half the population believes the conspiracy theories.

Mighty Oak wrote: Which is the official story is patently false.

Yet you can't come up with a unified conspiracy theory or prove the official story is false. Gee. Why should we believe you? Should we just take you at your word? I don't think so. I want to see proof. So far all the claims of the 9/11 deniers doesn't hold up to close examination. Unless you can prove the government is behind it, I am going to continue to believe it was Al Qaeda.

Mighty Oak wrote: People don't readily give you info because those of us who have been on these sites know what to expect and the only way that anyone will see this is if they have the desire to open their minds and whatever they find as truth must be accepted as the truth.
What a lameassed excuse. So the only people you will "share" the proof with is people who want to swallow your koolaid? :lol: Nice try, but we all know this is nothing more than a really poorly constructed excuse.

Mighty Oak wrote: I know you know what I am saying here because you have been doing the same thing only on the other side.My desire is to inspire people to look for themselves,not to be told what to believe but to want to know just what all the fuss is about.
We want the same thing. That is what I am doing here. I am showing that the conspiracy theories are seriously flawed and I encourage EVERYONE to look into the theories. Unfortunately CTers tend to only look at other CT sites. The CT sites are lying to you. You would rather close your eyes and believe them blindly rather than open your eyes and take a good hard look at the crap they are trying to sell you.

Mighty Oak wrote: If you think were all crazy,well thats not going to cut it,way too many of us now.
Still listening to those silly polls? Polls are for sheep.

Mighty Oak wrote: So what is it that makes us keep growing?Maybe were on to something.
Yet you can't say what it is or prove a single part of it. I would say the only thing you are on to is being used as tools by the likes of Alex Jones.

Mighty Oak wrote: BTW I don't look stupid,to you maybe but not to all,so please keep it civil.We are not your enemy,we are concerned people.
Where did I say you are my enemy? You really need to quit telling others what they feel and think when they have said no such thing. I DO think you look stupid, but that is only because you steadfastly refuse to look at ALL the evidence out there and instead only wish to look at the made up CT "evidence", and even the CT evidence isn't evidence at all.

Think the conspiracy theory "evidence" would hold up in a court of law? Lets see.

On the CT side you have a bunch of people who claim the towers couldn't have fallen the way they did without explosives. Their credentials? Well, the closest you have to credibility is Steven Jones, a physics professor. The CT side can't agree on whether or not the explosives were in the base or the top or both. They can't agree on how they were set off. They can't agree on how the explosives were planted, when or by whom. And of course they have the soundbites pulled from firefighter testimony where firefighters heard loud noises the conspiracy theorists are SURE were caused by explosives.

On the non-CT side you have thousands of structural engineers including the structural engineer who designed the towers saying the towers fell just as they would have expected given the circumstances. You have demolitions experts who've pointed out the lack of telltale signs of explosives being used. You have all the forensics experts who examined the steel and found no explosives. You have the independant studies showing just how the towers fell, including studies that show the towers would have fallen without structural damage given the nature of the fires. You have the full testimonies of the firefighters who were there where it becomes obvious that the firefighters heard loud noises that might have sounded like bombs, but these experienced firefighters didn't think there were actual explosives there.

Seriously. Pretend you are a judge and have to look at both sides impartially and who doesn't automatically assume everyone associated with the investigation is in on some grand conspiracy. Who looks stupid?

So go ahead and claim you have the proof and only want to share it with those who you consider to have an open mind. We know better. We know what the evidence shows. We know what the CT "evidence" shows.

[Wizard From Oz]

Quote: Ok but to just move along quietly won't save you.I thought you may want to know that

Thats right the bloody things a deaf - reptiles that is lol

[sleepy2k16]

They want World Government as well as several other things. I think in order to achieve this, They need to bankrupt all "powerful" USA.

Check this out:

For the New World Order to create a one world government, they must control a central bank, eliminate the Constitution, end Christian values, disarm America, and control the media. The Council on Foreign Relations has openly said they will take us over in favor of a one world government. The American people must be warned or we may lose our freedom forever. If we do not demand our rights and uphold the Constitution, the CFR and bankers will continue their march toward socialism. If we allow them to continue, they will abolish our rights and put an end to our present government. Freedom isn't free

Taken for www.jesus-is-savior.com

They also want to accomplish the following, and most of it has already been accomplished:

1. Patriot act
2. Patriot act 2
3. Eliminate the Consitution
4. Bring forth the NWO
5. Bankrupt the USA to bring forth a NWO
6. Scare americans to give up there right in exchange for "security" when you will just get tyranny and a police state.
7. Justify an Iraq & Afganistan War.. With Iraq, Iran, and Afganistan in control ..US Should control all of the Middle East with just those 3 countries.....oh my i hope i dont disppear...
8. Bring forth a Real ID Act, which was passed on 5-11-05, and then the "mark of the beast"
9. To Pretty Much Allow Bush to do anything He wants.


That is why in the PNAC Documents, Cheney said..We need a new Pearl Harbor.

Also, Some of you said they cant even handle a hurricane how can they do 9.11?

The answer is..The had help from criminal ellimates from the U.S. Military....I think...I cant say i am 100% possitive b/c i am not in the military or the government.

But this makes more sense then the offical story..Which 90% believes it to be covere up..

36% Believe it to be an inside job.

[Snake]

Yeah, and the government moniters your brain waves through nano machines implanted in Kraft macoroni and cheese too. Let us not forget Walmart, who mutates unsold goldfish into unkillable super-soldiers....

[TheGirlNextDoor]

Thrilla wrote: first rule in posting... make sure the topic is in the right forum :wink:

moved

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