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njlemire87 · Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:39 pm Post subject: Why is New Orleans so important?

Why is it that NO is getting all the news and attention? How about Gulfport? Biloxi? the rest of the state of Louisiana as well as Mississippi? Millions are homeless and we rebuild a football stadium? Am I the only one who sees something wrong with this?

JoeBen81 · Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 4157

Haven't we already tackled this topic in another thread??

http://www.politicalcrossfire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=66049&highlight=

The Grandmaster · Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:54 pm Post subject:

Man I've never seen so many people mad about a football stadium.

njlemire87 · Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 3:07 pm Post subject:

JoeBen81 wrote: Haven't we already tackled this topic in another thread??

http://www.politicalcrossfire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=66049&highlight=

My whole question is why do we spend so much of our time and attention on just NO when a whole region was devastated? If it was covered already, I apologize.

JoeBen81 · Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 4157

njlemire87 wrote: JoeBen81 wrote: Haven't we already tackled this topic in another thread??

http://www.politicalcrossfire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=66049&highlight=

My whole question is why do we spend so much of our time and attention on just NO when a whole region was devastated? If it was covered already, I apologize.

Your right, the football stadium thing threw me off.

Alizard

njlemire87 wrote: Why is it that NO is getting all the news and attention? How about Gulfport? Biloxi? the rest of the state of Louisiana as well as Mississippi? Millions are homeless and we rebuild a football stadium? Am I the only one who sees something wrong with this?

1) The weakness of their levees (and their inability to fund a proper reconstruction) was well known for decades, and a COE project with partial federal funding had been ongoing.

2) Bushco starved funding to it because of the budget constraints caused by his war.

3) The people stranded in NO were primarily poor, black and democratic...... which made it pretty obvious why they got no priority

4) The Bush apologists have made a specific issue of blaming the locals in LA, but not in mississippi.... because LA's governor is a democrat.

Quote: Millions are homeless and we rebuild a football stadium? Am I the only one who sees something wrong with this?

That statement is short-sighted, belligerent, and overly simplistic: EVERY state has homeless (many thousands of them). Your pronouncement that the completion of a project which would ultimately have a positive revenue effect before all of the homeless had been "solved" is "wrong" is patently idiotic and a double-standard not applied anywhere elese.

Alizard · Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 3:39 pm Post subject:

njlemire87 wrote: JoeBen81 wrote: Haven't we already tackled this topic in another thread??

http://www.politicalcrossfire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=66049&highlight=

My whole question is why do we spend so much of our time and attention on just NO when a whole region was devastated?

Mainly because about 60,000 people in NO were featured every night on national news screaming for help and went ignored for about four to five days, with horrific consequences.

Nobody said that there was no suffering anywhere else, but I doubt it rose to that level anywhere elese.

Alizard · Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 3:40 pm Post subject:

The Grandmaster wrote: Man I've never seen so many people mad about a football stadium.

It's just more bashing. New Orleans (and Nagin) are right behind Clinton on the official GOP list of targets to be bashed at all possible opportunities.

NAB · Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 3:48 pm Post subject:

njlemire87 wrote: JoeBen81 wrote: Haven't we already tackled this topic in another thread??

http://www.politicalcrossfire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=66049&highlight=

My whole question is why do we spend so much of our time and attention on just NO when a whole region was devastated? If it was covered already, I apologize.

While I agree that the whole region was devastated, N.O. stands out for a few reasons.
1-The devastation seen in the rest of the Gulf Coast is pretty similar to what the public has seen in previous hurricanes.
2-The severity of the breaking of the levees and resulting confusion/apparent government ineptitude that followed.
3-The fact that what happened occurred in a major Urban environment which increased the level of severity of the two reasons above. N.O. compacted all of the regions devastation into a smaller, yet more severely impacted region. It made the destruction easier for the general public to get their head around.

Just my opinion.

JoeBen81 · Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 4157

NAB wrote: njlemire87 wrote: JoeBen81 wrote: Haven't we already tackled this topic in another thread??

http://www.politicalcrossfire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=66049&highlight=

My whole question is why do we spend so much of our time and attention on just NO when a whole region was devastated? If it was covered already, I apologize.

While I agree that the whole region was devastated, N.O. stands out for a few reasons.
1-The devastation seen in the rest of the Gulf Coast is pretty similar to what the public has seen in previous hurricanes.
2-The severity of the breaking of the levees and resulting confusion/apparent government ineptitude that followed.
3-The fact that what happened occurred in a major Urban environment which increased the level of severity of the two reasons above. N.O. compacted all of the regions devastation into a smaller, yet more severely impacted region. It made the destruction easier for the general public to get their head around.

Just my opinion.
:tu:

njlemire87 · Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 3:55 pm Post subject:

Alizard wrote: The Grandmaster wrote: Man I've never seen so many people mad about a football stadium.

It's just more bashing. New Orleans (and Nagin) are right behind Clinton on the official GOP list of targets to be bashed at all possible opportunities.

JoeBen81 · Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 4157

njlemire87 wrote: Alizard wrote: The Grandmaster wrote: Man I've never seen so many people mad about a football stadium.

It's just more bashing. New Orleans (and Nagin) are right behind Clinton on the official GOP list of targets to be bashed at all possible opportunities.

"You're doing a heck of a job."

Rankor and Pissing · Joined: 04 Mar 2006 Posts: 8861

Alizard wrote: njlemire87 wrote: Why is it that NO is getting all the news and attention? How about Gulfport? Biloxi? the rest of the state of Louisiana as well as Mississippi? Millions are homeless and we rebuild a football stadium? Am I the only one who sees something wrong with this?

1) The weakness of their levees (and their inability to fund a proper reconstruction) was well known for decades, and a COE project with partial federal funding had been ongoing.

2) Bushco starved funding to it because of the budget constraints caused by his war.

3) The people stranded in NO were primarily poor, black and democratic...... which made it pretty obvious why they got no priority

4) The Bush apologists have made a specific issue of blaming the locals in LA, but not in mississippi.... because LA's governor is a democrat.

All of which is some nightmarish opinion based in not one iota of fact. The facts have already been outlined in previous posts, which is called above as "Bush apologists" - however, they are still facts. NO redistributed levee funds for close to 30 years, leaving the levees crumbling. That's why they failed - that's why NO was under water, that's where all the damage was caused. If that money was used for what is was designed for - NO probably would be standing today without a scratch. It has nothing to do with Bush, but NO damage was a great excuse and scapegoat for the partisan whiners who funnel money into the LA tough of corruption. Where's the 30 years worth of money then? No answer is forthcoming on that question anytime soon...

The bulls**t about NO being poor, black and Democrats is just that... NO unlike Buloxi, is a tourist hotspot. THAT'S what made NO stand out... it has the bars and is the quinticential tourist trap for money. Billions were assigned to all the affected areas... it has nothing to do with LA having a Democrat as a govenor, nor a Mayor, nor a council man. If you want to continue spreading lies - at least back it up with facts... not blogs, not huffpo garbage... show me the facts. The partisan diahrrea that continues about this subject is amazing and shows what those who post it stand for - hate, division and lies. That's right - outright baldface lies.

Alizard wrote: Quote: Millions are homeless and we rebuild a football stadium? Am I the only one who sees something wrong with this?

That statement is short-sighted, belligerent, and overly simplistic: EVERY state has homeless (many thousands of them). Your pronouncement that the completion of a project which would ultimately have a positive revenue effect before all of the homeless had been "solved" is "wrong" is patently idiotic and a double-standard not applied anywhere elese. Basically, it's more important that the government and business owners get some revenue in, than helping out people who have been living in trailers and fighting with insurance companies for the past year. The football team has PRIORITY, not the average joe-citizen. A very telling position which shows exactly what the elitists want, the elitists get. The smoke and mirrors and the documentary by Spike Lee about the people of NO is not that important except on election day. Otherwise it's "business as usual". :lol:

perdidochas · Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 14747 Location: Florida

njlemire87 wrote: Why is it that NO is getting all the news and attention? How about Gulfport? Biloxi? the rest of the state of Louisiana as well as Mississippi? Millions are homeless and we rebuild a football stadium? Am I the only one who sees something wrong with this?

Where are the millions of homeless? They aren't homeless. They are living somewhere.

Mississippi is also rebuilding. The Casinos were rebuilt, and are again attracting customers. Was that wrong, too?

New Orleans in 2005 (before Katrina) got over $210 million in revenue from the Sugar Bowl. If they didn't rebuild the Superdome, that revenue would never come in. New Orleans needs every bit of tourism it can get. The people can't come back without jobs.

Alizard · Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:44 pm Post subject:

njlemire87 wrote: Alizard wrote: The Grandmaster wrote: Man I've never seen so many people mad about a football stadium.

It's just more bashing. New Orleans (and Nagin) are right behind Clinton on the official GOP list of targets to be bashed at all possible opportunities.

Just a suggestion..... you'll get a much better turnout among your peers here at the forum if you title threads like this one:

Another New Orleans Bashing Thread

And, that way you won't waste my time when I reply thinking it might actually be a valid thread.

Pebble · Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 1143

Who paid for the reconstruction of the stadium?

perdidochas · Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 14747 Location: Florida

Pebble wrote: Who paid for the reconstruction of the stadium?

I believe the state of Lousiana with FEMA's assistance.

Rankor and Pissing · Joined: 04 Mar 2006 Posts: 8861

Alizard wrote: njlemire87 wrote: Alizard wrote: The Grandmaster wrote: Man I've never seen so many people mad about a football stadium.

It's just more bashing. New Orleans (and Nagin) are right behind Clinton on the official GOP list of targets to be bashed at all possible opportunities.

Just a suggestion..... you'll get a much better turnout among your peers here at the forum if you title threads like this one:

Another New Orleans Bashing Thread

njlemire87 your turn out is fine and the title was fine - don't change a damned thing and keep bringing it up. Good discussion is always needed and the vetting out of lies needs to occur no matter how many times. :tu:

Alizard wrote: And, that way you won't waste my time when I reply thinking it might actually be a valid thread. As you can see, some are very self centered and only care about their time, and nothing about anyone else. I can only hope and pray some mean it when they say they won't reply. :P

njlemire87 · Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 6:28 pm Post subject:

JoeBen81 wrote: njlemire87 wrote: Alizard wrote: The Grandmaster wrote: Man I've never seen so many people mad about a football stadium.

It's just more bashing. New Orleans (and Nagin) are right behind Clinton on the official GOP list of targets to be bashed at all possible opportunities.

"You're doing a heck of a job."

JoeBen81 · Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 4157

njlemire87 wrote:

:lol: :lol: :lol: Funny. I think Nagen got the shaft, but it's still funny.