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micfranklin



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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 3:09 pm    Post subject:  

I think Wolverine might've been on to something when he said that someone might be behind all of the shootings.....
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lilwolf



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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 3:10 pm    Post subject:  

micfranklin wrote: lilwolf wrote: britboy wrote: cap'n queasy wrote: New reporting is not the cause of school shootings.

Hatred toward the human race is the cause of school shootings. We have some serious social problems in this country.

A news blackout is not going to help.

Its quite ironic that the pro-gunners are recommending the government bans the free press etc!!
:lol:
(Glances at 200 year old US documents -- and wonders if the pro-gunners really want it altered to lower gun crime? Hoho, most ironic idea I've heard in weeks!!)

Sorry gunners .. you're stuck with the thing! I know it's a pain in the a**, but those little documents are important to some people! :)


You really like being a sarcastic little s*** don't you?

Wait till someone hits the UK and then when you realize your hobbie bobbies can't help you , you will think about our 200 year old documents and see why we will not give up our guns.
Even someone with a gun there could not have probably stopped it, because of laws. So your argument on "IF" is not needed. Have a nice day
LL junior. :lol:

No place on this planet is safe from a shooting.


Agreed and he acts like his little isalnd is immune from this stuff, becasue they have no guns....guns are there. This can happen anywhere
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perdidochas



Joined: 06 Mar 2006
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Location: Florida

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 3:14 pm    Post subject:  

ikari wrote: I'm not sure if publicizing has anything to do with it. There is a chance that there is a correlation there, I just can't say any definitive to how strong that correlation is. However, I don't think that there should be any form of media black out on this. You can't start controlling the press and what they release because the impact the news may have on society. I will argue for less gun restrictions and fully restoring the second amendment to all its glory. But I will also argue that we do this with all our natural rights; the freedom of the press must also be supported. It is unfortunate that there has been a rash of school shootings, and I can not fathom what goes through the head of an individual whom thinks this course of action to be a good idea. But these actions are not a reason to restrict gun use and availability, and it is not a reason to restrict the press.

I didn't say the press should be "controlled." I would like for them to voluntarily not publicize school shootings. The press voluntarily keeps other information secret as well--for example, rape victim's names. I see no difference. However, this would require an ethical media, so it won't happen. I suggest no laws or regulation to force this, just ethics.
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micfranklin



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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 3:14 pm    Post subject:  

lilwolf wrote: micfranklin wrote: lilwolf wrote: britboy wrote: cap'n queasy wrote: New reporting is not the cause of school shootings.

Hatred toward the human race is the cause of school shootings. We have some serious social problems in this country.

A news blackout is not going to help.

Its quite ironic that the pro-gunners are recommending the government bans the free press etc!!
:lol:
(Glances at 200 year old US documents -- and wonders if the pro-gunners really want it altered to lower gun crime? Hoho, most ironic idea I've heard in weeks!!)

Sorry gunners .. you're stuck with the thing! I know it's a pain in the a**, but those little documents are important to some people! :)


You really like being a sarcastic little s*** don't you?

Wait till someone hits the UK and then when you realize your hobbie bobbies can't help you , you will think about our 200 year old documents and see why we will not give up our guns.
Even someone with a gun there could not have probably stopped it, because of laws. So your argument on "IF" is not needed. Have a nice day
LL junior. :lol:

No place on this planet is safe from a shooting.


Agreed and he acts like his little isalnd is immune from this stuff, becasue they have no guns....guns are there. This can happen anywhere

It can, but its just unfortunate that its happening over here in the US and in the last week, too. But then, should we expect this from a gun control supporter?
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britboy



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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 3:20 pm    Post subject:  

micfranklin wrote: lilwolf wrote: micfranklin wrote: lilwolf wrote: britboy wrote: cap'n queasy wrote: New reporting is not the cause of school shootings.

Hatred toward the human race is the cause of school shootings. We have some serious social problems in this country.

A news blackout is not going to help.

Its quite ironic that the pro-gunners are recommending the government bans the free press etc!!
:lol:
(Glances at 200 year old US documents -- and wonders if the pro-gunners really want it altered to lower gun crime? Hoho, most ironic idea I've heard in weeks!!)

Sorry gunners .. you're stuck with the thing! I know it's a pain in the a**, but those little documents are important to some people! :)


You really like being a sarcastic little s*** don't you?

Wait till someone hits the UK and then when you realize your hobbie bobbies can't help you , you will think about our 200 year old documents and see why we will not give up our guns.
Even someone with a gun there could not have probably stopped it, because of laws. So your argument on "IF" is not needed. Have a nice day
LL junior. :lol:

No place on this planet is safe from a shooting.


Agreed and he acts like his little isalnd is immune from this stuff, becasue they have no guns....guns are there. This can happen anywhere

It can, but its just unfortunate that its happening over here in the US and in the last week, too. But then, should we expect this from a gun control supporter?
Yes micfranklin -- your country is just purely unlucky. All your gunshot deaths in the US -- one big, long, darn, darn unlucky streak, thats gone on for years. One, big unlucky roll on the roulette wheel of life.

Gosh we're lucky in just about every other first world country in the world not to have 'an unlucky streak that never seems to stop'. I'll count my blessings on that one.

Strangely other countries have tighter gun control as well. What a strangely fantastical coincedence. And darn it, darn your bad, bad luck with lots and lots of shootings. One things for sure, if you change absolutely nothing .. that bad luck's sure to run out one day yea?

(ps Lilwolf .. that was sarcasm.)
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lilwolf



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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 3:55 pm    Post subject:  

britboy wrote: micfranklin wrote: lilwolf wrote: micfranklin wrote: lilwolf wrote: britboy wrote: cap'n queasy wrote: New reporting is not the cause of school shootings.

Hatred toward the human race is the cause of school shootings. We have some serious social problems in this country.

A news blackout is not going to help.

Its quite ironic that the pro-gunners are recommending the government bans the free press etc!!
:lol:
(Glances at 200 year old US documents -- and wonders if the pro-gunners really want it altered to lower gun crime? Hoho, most ironic idea I've heard in weeks!!)

Sorry gunners .. you're stuck with the thing! I know it's a pain in the a**, but those little documents are important to some people! :)


You really like being a sarcastic little s*** don't you?

Wait till someone hits the UK and then when you realize your hobbie bobbies can't help you , you will think about our 200 year old documents and see why we will not give up our guns.
Even someone with a gun there could not have probably stopped it, because of laws. So your argument on "IF" is not needed. Have a nice day
LL junior. :lol:

No place on this planet is safe from a shooting.


Agreed and he acts like his little isalnd is immune from this stuff, becasue they have no guns....guns are there. This can happen anywhere

It can, but its just unfortunate that its happening over here in the US and in the last week, too. But then, should we expect this from a gun control supporter?
Yes micfranklin -- your country is just purely unlucky. All your gunshot deaths in the US -- one big, long, darn, darn unlucky streak, thats gone on for years. One, big unlucky roll on the roulette wheel of life.

Gosh we're lucky in just about every other first world country in the world not to have 'an unlucky streak that never seems to stop'. I'll count my blessings on that one.

Strangely other countries have tighter gun control as well. What a strangely fantastical coincedence. And darn it, darn your bad, bad luck with lots and lots of shootings. One things for sure, if you change absolutely nothing .. that bad luck's sure to run out one day yea?

(ps Lilwolf .. that was sarcasm.)

Stuff the sarcasm britboy it really is not needed okay. You can do that on your own time, just do not do it here. It only makes you look less than what you are. :-|
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Wolverine



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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:09 pm    Post subject:  

Meh, copycats.

I bet the Brady Bunch is loving this, they love death, especially children.
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perdidochas



Joined: 06 Mar 2006
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Location: Florida

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:12 pm    Post subject:  

britboy wrote: micfranklin wrote: lilwolf wrote: micfranklin wrote: lilwolf wrote: britboy wrote: cap'n queasy wrote: New reporting is not the cause of school shootings.

Hatred toward the human race is the cause of school shootings. We have some serious social problems in this country.

A news blackout is not going to help.

Its quite ironic that the pro-gunners are recommending the government bans the free press etc!!
:lol:
(Glances at 200 year old US documents -- and wonders if the pro-gunners really want it altered to lower gun crime? Hoho, most ironic idea I've heard in weeks!!)

Sorry gunners .. you're stuck with the thing! I know it's a pain in the a**, but those little documents are important to some people! :)


You really like being a sarcastic little s*** don't you?

Wait till someone hits the UK and then when you realize your hobbie bobbies can't help you , you will think about our 200 year old documents and see why we will not give up our guns.
Even someone with a gun there could not have probably stopped it, because of laws. So your argument on "IF" is not needed. Have a nice day
LL junior. :lol:

No place on this planet is safe from a shooting.


Agreed and he acts like his little isalnd is immune from this stuff, becasue they have no guns....guns are there. This can happen anywhere

It can, but its just unfortunate that its happening over here in the US and in the last week, too. But then, should we expect this from a gun control supporter?
Yes micfranklin -- your country is just purely unlucky. All your gunshot deaths in the US -- one big, long, darn, darn unlucky streak, thats gone on for years. One, big unlucky roll on the roulette wheel of life.

Gosh we're lucky in just about every other first world country in the world not to have 'an unlucky streak that never seems to stop'. I'll count my blessings on that one.

Strangely other countries have tighter gun control as well. What a strangely fantastical coincedence. And darn it, darn your bad, bad luck with lots and lots of shootings. One things for sure, if you change absolutely nothing .. that bad luck's sure to run out one day yea?

(ps Lilwolf .. that was sarcasm.)

I noticed that you conveniently ignored my post--the one that had a link that showed a half-dozen other countries (some with gun control as strict as England's (i.e. Germany)), that had similar incidents.
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ikari



Joined: 24 Sep 2004
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Location: Colorado

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:14 pm    Post subject:  

perdidochas wrote: I didn't say the press should be "controlled." I would like for them to voluntarily not publicize school shootings. The press voluntarily keeps other information secret as well--for example, rape victim's names. I see no difference. However, this would require an ethical media, so it won't happen. I suggest no laws or regulation to force this, just ethics.

Fair enough. There are instances in which the press may hold back, though reporting the story itself I think may be a bit to ask from our current media outlets. I don't think we should use low probability events such as this as justification to infringe upon any of our rights, but it seems that you are of like mind on this issue.
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Wolverine



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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:19 pm    Post subject:  

micfranklin wrote: I think Wolverine might've been on to something when he said that someone might be behind all of the shootings.....
Betcha $50K CN dollars an anti-gun group has something to do with it.
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micfranklin



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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:25 pm    Post subject:  

Wolverine wrote: micfranklin wrote: I think Wolverine might've been on to something when he said that someone might be behind all of the shootings.....
Betcha $50K CN dollars an anti-gun group has something to do with it.

Either that or some secret sect or cult.
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Wolverine



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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 6:39 pm    Post subject:  

micfranklin wrote: Wolverine wrote: micfranklin wrote: I think Wolverine might've been on to something when he said that someone might be behind all of the shootings.....
Betcha $50K CN dollars an anti-gun group has something to do with it.

Either that or some secret sect or cult.
A secret anti-gun cult.
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perdidochas



Joined: 06 Mar 2006
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Location: Florida

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 8:51 am    Post subject:  

micfranklin wrote: Wolverine wrote: micfranklin wrote: I think Wolverine might've been on to something when he said that someone might be behind all of the shootings.....
Betcha $50K CN dollars an anti-gun group has something to do with it.

Either that or some secret sect or cult.
I think this last guy was a semi copy cat. Same MO as the Colorado guy--separate the girls, etc.
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airo



Joined: 31 Jul 2004
Posts: 2583
Location: Tampa, Florida

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 8:58 am    Post subject:  

perdidochas wrote: micfranklin wrote: Wolverine wrote: micfranklin wrote: I think Wolverine might've been on to something when he said that someone might be behind all of the shootings.....
Betcha $50K CN dollars an anti-gun group has something to do with it.

Either that or some secret sect or cult.
I think this last guy was a semi copy cat. Same MO as the Colorado guy--separate the girls, etc.

Minus the rape.

I think that might be an important factor.
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