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Rankor and Pissing · Joined: 04 Mar 2006 Posts: 8858

Lancaster PA is a very picturesque area, lots of rolling farmland and rural roots. The Amish (or Pennsylvania Dutch) are a German descended group who does not like to contact the outside very much and lives a very Christian lifestyle. Farming is the family business - they tend not to adopt technology and utilize "traditional" farming methods and communication. They are a "closed community" and do not often have issues that reach out past the Lancaster area.

This is very suprising:

Amish School Shooting

One room farmhouse:

AP Newswire wrote:
NICKEL MINES, Pennsylvania (AP) -- A gunman killed "a number" of people at a one-room Amish schoolhouse Monday in Pennsylvania's Lancaster County, state police said.

The shooter was among the dead, state police Cpl. Ralph Striebig said.

"There are a number of people dead," Striebig said. "The exact number I do not know yet."

About three dozen Amish people were standing behind a police line, and at least two ambulances had left the scene, WGAL-TV said. Television news helicopters showed a person being taken away on a stretcher to a waiting medical helicopter.

The Lancaster County 911 Web site reported that dozens of emergency units were dispatched to a "medical emergency" at 10:45 a.m. Monday.

Latest in - at least 2 dead. The hostage taker and one other person. It looks as though it's a single room schoolhouse - couldn't hold more than maybe 30 people at one time.

JoeBen81 · Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 4157

Probobly just another perfectly normal kid, that got his hands on Grand Theft Auto, then turned into..... ..... oh, nm.

JoeBen81 · Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 4157

Now the reports are now saying 6 people dead. Sad.

perdidochas · Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 14747 Location: Florida

JoeBen81 wrote: Probobly just another perfectly normal kid, that got his hands on Grand Theft Auto, then turned into..... ..... oh, nm.

Nothing in that report indicated that it was a kid (or not).

lilwolf · Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 12031 Location: idaho

perdidochas wrote: JoeBen81 wrote: Probobly just another perfectly normal kid, that got his hands on Grand Theft Auto, then turned into..... ..... oh, nm.

Nothing in that report indicated that it was a kid (or not).

Either way ...kid or adult, I know adults that play that game. Very violent in its nature and could influence a weak minded person. If that is what caused it. Unknown at this point

JoeBen81 · Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 4157

lilwolf wrote: perdidochas wrote: JoeBen81 wrote: Probobly just another perfectly normal kid, that got his hands on Grand Theft Auto, then turned into..... ..... oh, nm.

Nothing in that report indicated that it was a kid (or not).

Either way ...kid or adult, I know adults that play that game. Very violent in its nature and could influence a weak minded person. If that is what caused it. Unknown at this point

I was making a comment on the first thing we often hear in cases like this, perhaps too soon. I wasn't trying to give any actual details on this instance, forget I said anything.

micfranklin · Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 3:13 pm Post subject:

This is like the third shooting in the last week or so, in case no one's noticed, which is really suspicious.

bigstick61 · Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 3:15 pm Post subject:

The shooter wasa 32 year-old milkman. He ordered all of the boys out and locked himself in with the hostages, killing at least five and wounding three, and killing himself. 10 shots were fired by him.

JoeBen81 · Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 4157

bigstick61 wrote: The shooter wasa 32 year-old milkman. He ordered all of the boys out and locked himself in with the hostages, killing at least five and wounding three, and killing himself. 10 shots were fired by him.
Wow, wonder what makes someone in this type of community snap.

lilwolf · Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 12031 Location: idaho

JoeBen81 wrote: bigstick61 wrote: The shooter wasa 32 year-old milkman. He ordered all of the boys out and locked himself in with the hostages, killing at least five and wounding three, and killing himself. 10 shots were fired by him.
Wow, wonder what makes someone in this type of community snap.

Remember when it might be the mailman? The reasons could be many as to why someone snaps.....you all know the list.

bigstick61 · Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 3:34 pm Post subject:

He wasn't Amish.

Rankor and Pissing · Joined: 04 Mar 2006 Posts: 8858

Jesus... a rabid milkman. My idea of a milkman is anything and everything BUT harmful...

There were always jokes about the milkman or the mailman having affairs with young newlyweds but shooting amish kids is just freaky. Is it full moon by chance?

lilwolf · Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 12031 Location: idaho

Rankor and Pissing wrote: Jesus... a rabid milkman. My idea of a milkman is anything and everything BUT harmful...

There were always jokes about the milkman or the mailman having affairs with young newlyweds but shooting amish kids is just freaky. Is it full moon by chance?

Yea, they usually borrow the lady next door. :lol:

Mighty Oak · Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 7:52 pm Post subject:

Apparently he did it as some kind of revenge from 20 years ago,wtf?

I live in this area and as far as the Amish not having much contact with non Amish is false,hell I went to school with a few.We all played together and got along just fine.They have many businesses,farming but mostly crafts and furniture is what they sell to the "outside" world.It is amazing to see a small boy opperated a team of horses and a plow on a large farm.These people work their ( . )'s off.

I once had a horse and buggy pull out in front of me,I missed him but they do get hit more than you think.

They are not perfect,just the other year one young man was charged with selling cocaine.I believe in a few decades the Amish lifestyle will be a thing of the past.

CTRLALTDEL · Joined: 19 Apr 2006 Posts: 52 Location: The Bay Area

bigstick61 wrote: The shooter wasa 32 year-old milkman. He ordered all of the boys out and locked himself in with the hostages, killing at least five and wounding three, and killing himself. 10 shots were fired by him.

Did he just target the girls???

Mighty Oak · Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:21 pm Post subject:

CTRLALTDEL wrote: bigstick61 wrote: The shooter wasa 32 year-old milkman. He ordered all of the boys out and locked himself in with the hostages, killing at least five and wounding three, and killing himself. 10 shots were fired by him.

Did he just target the girls??? yep

micfranklin · Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:59 pm Post subject:

I am a little suspicious as to how there can be 3 shootings in the last week. Must be a world record.

Mighty Oak · Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 9:17 am Post subject:

micfranklin wrote: I am a little suspicious as to how there can be 3 shootings in the last week. Must be a world record. Yea,that is strange.

Plato & Socrates · Joined: 24 Dec 2005 Posts: 1744 Location: London

lilwolf wrote: perdidochas wrote: JoeBen81 wrote: Probobly just another perfectly normal kid, that got his hands on Grand Theft Auto, then turned into..... ..... oh, nm.

Nothing in that report indicated that it was a kid (or not).

Either way ...kid or adult, I know adults that play that game. Very violent in its nature and could influence a weak minded person. If that is what caused it. Unknown at this point

So how did you withstand the influence lilwolf? :lol: Anyway this is just another case of an America wacko, with easy access to guns. When will you Yanks put 2+2 together and realise the correlation between, everybody having the right to have firearms, and with such easy accessability to these guns, the opportunity to blast people to death.

I just dont get it with you Americans. I would say that in the U.K we have just as many wacko's proportionally compared to the U.S. But because access to guns are so difficult, we have had only one instance like your school shootings and that was Dunblain. Why do people choose to take out there anger in a school is just beyond me?
Why is it in America, you have wacko snipers, killing their fellow civilians?

And why is it that invariably, 99% of these wacko's are white? I believe any white male near a school, should be stopped and searched. There should be profiling of us white guys. If it was blacks or hispanics killing kids so often, we would be calling for profiling and the stopping and searching of these groups, and the G.O.P would support it. America needs to set limitations on gun ownership. I would start with anybody convicted of a fire-arm offence, loses the right to bear arms. Bang bang.

puffin · Joined: 24 Jun 2006 Posts: 985

Gee mcfranklin, you "suspicious"?
I didn't think you were 'the type'.
Could it be that the US Government was operating underground death/torture chambers under these schools and the guys who did the shootings 'discovered' the secret tunnels leading directly to Bushs secret door in his bathroom so they had to be 'silenced'. I'm sure these are the 'real facts' because "I read it on the Web".

The fact is there are people out there who are insane and they do insane things. Sad but true.