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Ardent
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| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:05 pm Post subject: Amish School Shooting Pennsylvania |
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'A number' dead in Amish school shooting
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Location of shooting at an Amish school
in Nickel Mines, Pa., on Oct. 2, 2006. (AP Graphic)
NICKEL MINES, Pa. -- A gunman killed
"a number" of people at a one-room
Amish schoolhouse Monday in Pennsylvania's
bucolic Lancaster County, state police said.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1110AP_Amish_School_Shooting.html |
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Ardent
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| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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Meanwhile Police are searching a school
in Las Vegas :shock:
Gunman hunt in Las Vegas schools
A high school and an elementary school in
the US city of Las Vegas have been locked
down while police hunt for a teenager seen
carrying a gun on campus.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/5400392.stm
Timeline: US school shootings:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4371403.stm |
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perdidochas
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| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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| I hate copycats. It's going to be a rough couple of months. My advice--why not have a media blackout on school shootings. I bet they stop almost instantly. |
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lilwolf
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| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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| I guess we'll have another bunch of morons that want their 15 minutes of fame. Here we go again. This happens every once in awhile, that some nutcase will do something and then they crawl out of the woodwork. |
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RooK
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| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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| It wouldn't happen if they didn't publicize it. It's just like the DC shootings and the guy up in Ohio that was shooting at cars on the highway. It wasn't a problem until one person did it and then gave the others ideas. WTF is with people? It's like the world is going to hell in a handbasket. |
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lilwolf
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| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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RooK wrote: It wouldn't happen if they didn't publicize it. It's just like the DC shootings and the guy up in Ohio that was shooting at cars on the highway. It wasn't a problem until one person did it and then gave the others ideas. WTF is with people? It's like the world is going to hell in a handbasket.
Oh yea...they gotta publicize all of the bad and give these loonies all the exposure they want and crave. That's the way the media has been for years now, and getting worse. |
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micfranklin
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| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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lilwolf wrote: I guess we'll have another bunch of morons that want their 15 minutes of fame. Here we go again. This happens every once in awhile, that some nutcase will do something and then they crawl out of the woodwork.
Okay...
First it was the principal killed by a freshman. Then it was the shootings in Colorado, and now its the one in Lancaster. WTF is up with everybody these days, this is like the third shooting rampage in a week.
Not to sound pessimistic or anything, but I wonder what school will be next on the list? |
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perdidochas
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| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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micfranklin wrote: lilwolf wrote: I guess we'll have another bunch of morons that want their 15 minutes of fame. Here we go again. This happens every once in awhile, that some nutcase will do something and then they crawl out of the woodwork.
Okay...
First it was the principal killed by a freshman. Then it was the shootings in Colorado, and now its the one in Lancaster. WTF is up with everybody these days, this is like the third shooting rampage in a week.
Not to sound pessimistic or anything, but I wonder what school will be next on the list?
Well, my wife's school is on lockdown. All fences, exterior doors, etc., are locked (which normally isn't the case).
I think we should start a voluntary news ban on school shooting cases for about a month. |
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micfranklin
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| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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perdidochas wrote: micfranklin wrote: lilwolf wrote: I guess we'll have another bunch of morons that want their 15 minutes of fame. Here we go again. This happens every once in awhile, that some nutcase will do something and then they crawl out of the woodwork.
Okay...
First it was the principal killed by a freshman. Then it was the shootings in Colorado, and now its the one in Lancaster. WTF is up with everybody these days, this is like the third shooting rampage in a week.
Not to sound pessimistic or anything, but I wonder what school will be next on the list?
Well, my wife's school is on lockdown. All fences, exterior doors, etc., are locked (which normally isn't the case).
I think we should start a voluntary news ban on school shooting cases for about a month.
Well, that's a bit extreme....banning school shooting cases, I mean. Think about it, it doesn't get reported for a month and then when its over we have 300-something people dead all across the country. |
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perdidochas
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| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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micfranklin wrote: perdidochas wrote: micfranklin wrote: lilwolf wrote: I guess we'll have another bunch of morons that want their 15 minutes of fame. Here we go again. This happens every once in awhile, that some nutcase will do something and then they crawl out of the woodwork.
Okay...
First it was the principal killed by a freshman. Then it was the shootings in Colorado, and now its the one in Lancaster. WTF is up with everybody these days, this is like the third shooting rampage in a week.
Not to sound pessimistic or anything, but I wonder what school will be next on the list?
Well, my wife's school is on lockdown. All fences, exterior doors, etc., are locked (which normally isn't the case).
I think we should start a voluntary news ban on school shooting cases for about a month.
Well, that's a bit extreme....banning school shooting cases, I mean. Think about it, it doesn't get reported for a month and then when its over we have 300-something people dead all across the country.
Nope, the other way around. It doesn't get reported for a month, it stops. |
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cap'n queasy
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| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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New reporting is not the cause of school shootings.
Hatred toward the human race is the cause of school shootings. We have some serious social problems in this country.
A news blackout is not going to help. |
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perdidochas
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| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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cap'n queasy wrote: New reporting is not the cause of school shootings.
Hatred toward the human race is the cause of school shootings. We have some serious social problems in this country.
A news blackout is not going to help.
I disagree. Yes, news reporting isn't causing the shootings, but it is inspiring them. Why else would there suddenly be a rash of them? |
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britboy
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| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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cap'n queasy wrote: New reporting is not the cause of school shootings.
Hatred toward the human race is the cause of school shootings. We have some serious social problems in this country.
A news blackout is not going to help.
Its quite ironic that the pro-gunners are recommending the government bans the free press etc!!
:lol:
(Glances at 200 year old US documents -- and wonders if the pro-gunners really want it altered to lower gun crime? Hoho, most ironic idea I've heard in weeks!!)
Sorry gunners .. you're stuck with the thing! I know it's a pain in the a**, but those little documents are important to some people! :) |
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lilwolf
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| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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britboy wrote: cap'n queasy wrote: New reporting is not the cause of school shootings.
Hatred toward the human race is the cause of school shootings. We have some serious social problems in this country.
A news blackout is not going to help.
Its quite ironic that the pro-gunners are recommending the government bans the free press etc!!
:lol:
(Glances at 200 year old US documents -- and wonders if the pro-gunners really want it altered to lower gun crime? Hoho, most ironic idea I've heard in weeks!!)
Sorry gunners .. you're stuck with the thing! I know it's a pain in the a**, but those little documents are important to some people! :)
You really like being a sarcastic little s*** don't you?
Wait till someone hits the UK and then when you realize your hobbie bobbies can't help you , you will think about our 200 year old documents and see why we will not give up our guns.
Even someone with a gun there could not have probably stopped it, because of laws. So your argument on "IF" is not needed. Have a nice day
LL junior. :lol: |
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britboy
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| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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lilwolf wrote: britboy wrote: cap'n queasy wrote: New reporting is not the cause of school shootings.
Hatred toward the human race is the cause of school shootings. We have some serious social problems in this country.
A news blackout is not going to help.
Its quite ironic that the pro-gunners are recommending the government bans the free press etc!!
:lol:
(Glances at 200 year old US documents -- and wonders if the pro-gunners really want it altered to lower gun crime? Hoho, most ironic idea I've heard in weeks!!)
Sorry gunners .. you're stuck with the thing! I know it's a pain in the a**, but those little documents are important to some people! :)
You really like being a sarcastic little s*** don't you?
Wait till someone hits the UK and then when you realize your hobbie bobbies can't help you , you will think about our 200 year old documents and see why we will not give up our guns.
Even someone with a gun there could not have probably stopped it, because of laws. So your argument on "IF" is not needed. Have a nice day
LL junior. :lol:
It was irony, not sarcasm. You're the ones going on about scrapping your rights (to a free press) to stop the problem, not me! |
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perdidochas
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| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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britboy wrote: cap'n queasy wrote: New reporting is not the cause of school shootings.
Hatred toward the human race is the cause of school shootings. We have some serious social problems in this country.
A news blackout is not going to help.
Its quite ironic that the pro-gunners are recommending the government bans the free press etc!!
:lol:
(Glances at 200 year old US documents -- and wonders if the pro-gunners really want it altered to lower gun crime? Hoho, most ironic idea I've heard in weeks!!)
Sorry gunners .. you're stuck with the thing! I know it's a pain in the a**, but those little documents are important to some people! :)
Read my original suggestion, and I quote (emphasis added):
perdidochas wrote: I think we should start a voluntary news ban on school shooting cases for about a month.
Did I say mandatory? Did I say by law? No, I said voluntary. It would be the proper response for responsible citizens, which the press should be. However, I know it won't happen, and that's their right.
Also, I think it's ironic that a gun ban enthusiast would at all mind any other right being infringed. Somehow a suggestion for a VOLUNTARY ban on reporting is more offensive to the Constitution than a mandatory ban of guns. Also, britboy, what do you care about our Constitution? Your country doesn't have a written one. |
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micfranklin
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lilwolf wrote: britboy wrote: cap'n queasy wrote: New reporting is not the cause of school shootings.
Hatred toward the human race is the cause of school shootings. We have some serious social problems in this country.
A news blackout is not going to help.
Its quite ironic that the pro-gunners are recommending the government bans the free press etc!!
:lol:
(Glances at 200 year old US documents -- and wonders if the pro-gunners really want it altered to lower gun crime? Hoho, most ironic idea I've heard in weeks!!)
Sorry gunners .. you're stuck with the thing! I know it's a pain in the a**, but those little documents are important to some people! :)
You really like being a sarcastic little s*** don't you?
Wait till someone hits the UK and then when you realize your hobbie bobbies can't help you , you will think about our 200 year old documents and see why we will not give up our guns.
Even someone with a gun there could not have probably stopped it, because of laws. So your argument on "IF" is not needed. Have a nice day
LL junior. :lol:
No place on this planet is safe from a shooting. |
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ikari
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| I'm not sure if publicizing has anything to do with it. There is a chance that there is a correlation there, I just can't say any definitive to how strong that correlation is. However, I don't think that there should be any form of media black out on this. You can't start controlling the press and what they release because the impact the news may have on society. I will argue for less gun restrictions and fully restoring the second amendment to all its glory. But I will also argue that we do this with all our natural rights; the freedom of the press must also be supported. It is unfortunate that there has been a rash of school shootings, and I can not fathom what goes through the head of an individual whom thinks this course of action to be a good idea. But these actions are not a reason to restrict gun use and availability, and it is not a reason to restrict the press. |
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cap'n queasy
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| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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perdidochas wrote: cap'n queasy wrote: New reporting is not the cause of school shootings.
Hatred toward the human race is the cause of school shootings. We have some serious social problems in this country.
A news blackout is not going to help.
I disagree. Yes, news reporting isn't causing the shootings, but it is inspiring them. Why else would there suddenly be a rash of them?
Something else would set them off, because they are messed up to begin with. Like I said, the watching news doesn't make previously normal people take a gun and go to a school to kill people.
Personally, I think the increasing secularism of our society is to blame. It's driving people crazy. When people are trained to think there is no rhyme or reason to their existence, it drives them mad. Look at all the crazy stuff going on in our society. |
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britboy
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| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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micfranklin wrote: lilwolf wrote: britboy wrote: cap'n queasy wrote: New reporting is not the cause of school shootings.
Hatred toward the human race is the cause of school shootings. We have some serious social problems in this country.
A news blackout is not going to help.
Its quite ironic that the pro-gunners are recommending the government bans the free press etc!!
:lol:
(Glances at 200 year old US documents -- and wonders if the pro-gunners really want it altered to lower gun crime? Hoho, most ironic idea I've heard in weeks!!)
Sorry gunners .. you're stuck with the thing! I know it's a pain in the a**, but those little documents are important to some people! :)
You really like being a sarcastic little s*** don't you?
Wait till someone hits the UK and then when you realize your hobbie bobbies can't help you , you will think about our 200 year old documents and see why we will not give up our guns.
Even someone with a gun there could not have probably stopped it, because of laws. So your argument on "IF" is not needed. Have a nice day
LL junior. :lol:
No place on this planet is safe from a shooting.
Don't make me start talking about the centre of errupting volcanoes, and 3km deep sea beds... |
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