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[metalan1]

If anyone can watch terror storm, and not think that the london bombings were a false flag, then you are completely lost. It is just another example of how blatant these attacks are.


Shows how they fabricated Iraq evidence, and their clearly traiterous actons. I dare you government supporters to dispute anything in tyhis video, without calling names. You can't, you probably won't even watch.

Shows how bush enforces laws without them being law, which in fact makes him a dictator.


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4757274759497686216

[MG1962]

Quote: Shows how bush enforces laws without them being law, which in fact makes him a dictator.

Unless I missed a memo or two - GWB Doesn't own London?

[Medius]

MG1962 wrote: Quote: Shows how bush enforces laws without them being law, which in fact makes him a dictator.

Unless I missed a memo or two - GWB Doesn't own London?

The video he is referring to covers both America and the US. Two seperate issues.

The video brings up some interesting points, however, I suggest anyone who watches it to do their own research on the issues. I never take Alex Jones at face value. In the past he has proven inaccurate with some of his statements.

[paulmarkj]

metalan1 wrote:

you probably won't even watch.



The video is 1:52:21 long. It needs to be cut if you want people to watch it (though I doubt you do). If I watched/read every piece of evidence that people said contained real evidence I'd be reading/watching 50 hours a day. My experience shows that for all the material, there is very little evidence, mostly just filler and supposition.

So far, having watched 10 minutes, I've learnt nothing, except the man attempts to make very tenuous links. Eg:

Quote: "Using the crisis he created, by passing laws similar to the USA patriot act, Hitler became dictator."

He doesn't make a direct accusation, but he puts into our minds that the USA is like Nazi Germany.

But why all the filler? iI could have made that tenuous link in 30 secomds. Here is what I think:

This man, like so many conspiracy theorists believes that by giving such a lengthy argument, it must be true. He gives, in the Nazi case, dates, the name of the mentally disturbed man, his location of arrest, his situation (naked and rolling around), all details to make us think he has a well researched, detailed piece. But, actually, they are unnecessary, they give not the slighest gravitas to the documentry, nor the slightest evidecne of anything to do with 911 or 7/7.

He then goes on to say how Hitler took over Europe using operation Himmler. If I wanted a history lesson I'd go back to the school where I learnt all this 30 years ago. You may have a new name for it (false flag), but the rest is what I learnt when I was 12.

Some people may be fooled by his rhetoric, but I am not.

I've tried to skip through to find something, but it all seems to be filler. Eg: a policeman takes his details and the filmmaker offers his id, the policeman says "no, its alright", because he believes the filmmaker, but the filmmaker insists on showing it, so the policeman looks at it. Wow, this is riverting stuff.

If you have some evidence, post it, I am not going to waste my precious hours listen to a poorly made documentry

[scoobysnack]

paulmarkj

Watch this video: It's some of the video shown in terrorstorm.

London Bombings Mastermind is MI6 Asset


On FOX News Channel's Day Side, Terrorism Expert John Loftus revealed that Haroon Rashid Aswat, the suspect wanted by British Police for "masterminding" the July 7th London bombings and July 21st attempted bombings is in fact an asset of MI6, the British Secret Service. According to Loftus, Aswat has been under the protection of MI6 for many years.

http://www.infowars.com/articles/London_attack/mastermind_mi6_asset.htm

London Bomber Mastermind Was Working For MI6 CONFIRMED

These are what are called agent provocateurs. Used to give the government justification for whatever it wants to do.

If you want real news, you can not count on the American media to tell you anything of the real truth. It's so controlled, it's very sad.

From the New Criminologist journal in the UK:

Published on 25 September 2005 | Author BERRY-DEE, Christopher.

Haroon Aswat – the man British Police believe was behind the London bombings – was working for MI6, it has been confirmed by leading U.S. and French intelligence asset/agents.

Now an FBI agent in Seattle – name removed for security reasons, but can be published at the drop of a hat – has demanded that former USDA federal agent, Dr Janette Parker, stop talking to the British media about how the FBI obstructed their own top terrorism investigator, John O’Neill in his enquiries.

“The American press can be silenced but not the British press."

Haroon Aswat is the primary suspect as the mastermind of the London Bombings 7/7.

With the events, unfolding in Chicago, (see: http://www.newcriminologist.co.uk/news.asp?id=1529297048 ) even a blind man can see that the current U.S. administration is rotten thru-and-thru, and this corruption has long spread to the UK

“Bush and Blair are just puppets. Their strings are tugged by money, corruption, ego, by the Intel services. You don’t even want to know the truth.”

“International terrorism is VERY BIG business,” our source confirmed. “The U.S. and UK trade in terrorism like it is some kind of off-the-shelf commodity. Forget the destruction of lives to normal people, women and children.

read in full...
http://www.newcriminologist.co.uk/news.asp?id=-1677497717

archived: http://www.infowars.net/~officia/77/mastermind/aswat/250905newcrimaswatfbithreat.html

[paulmarkj]

The phrase "working for MI6" is interesting. It could mean

1) MI6 are using him to spy for them
2) He is helping MI6 carry out the bombings

The video states option 1 at first and then, presenting no evidence, shifts to 2.

Is it so hard to believe that in the shady world of spies and terrorists that a man goes missing? Is it so difficult to believe he could be a double agent? Is it so difficult to believe that the CIA and MI6 sometimes cooperate and sometimes don't?

Quote: London Bomber Mastermind Was Working For MI6 CONFIRMED

Hardly. Where was the confirmation or evidence/

Quote: "The only way he could get away with it is because he is working for British intelligence"

As an open minded person, I'm sure you considered the opposite:

Quote: The only way he could get away with it is because he is NOT working for British intelligence

People state facts as being permanent, ie: he always was working for MI6, but this arrangement are, to say the least, very loose: he may be one day, but not the next. He certainly wasn't a 9 to 5 employee, perhaps just giving information from time to time. Sure, he may have been watched, though not certainly, but as an international terrorist, perhaps he knew how to slip away, I don't suppose it is that difficult.

The video ends with: "John, hang around, I have so many questions" because there are so many questions about the story, but, of course, we see no questions.

[scoobysnack]

Take the time to watch this video. It will answer all the questions you have, so you can see it with your own eyes.

click on the picture to watch "Terrorstorm" high quality on google video:




The part about the London bombings starts about 45 minutes into the film.

[Timmytour]

paulmarkj wrote: So far, having watched 10 minutes, I've learnt nothing, except the man attempts to make very tenuous links. Eg:

Quote: "Using the crisis he created, by passing laws similar to the USA patriot act, Hitler became dictator."

He doesn't make a direct accusation, but he puts into our minds that the USA is like Nazi Germany.



Sounds very much the kind of tactic others were using to put into minds the link between Saddam and 9/11

[Snake]

metalan1 wrote: If anyone can watch terror storm, and not think that the london bombings were a false flag, then you are completely lost. It is just another example of how blatant these attacks are....
:rofl: Yeah, I'm really going to base my opinions on a retarded internet video, I'm actually starting to think there may be some truth to my joke conspiracy theory thread :rofl:
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