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[psholtz]

NAB wrote: psholtz wrote: NAB wrote: Maybe I should have been a bit more specific then. I wasn't referring to just Joe Six Pack. I would number some of these people I've met to fall under such categories as past and current US presidents, former/current presidents/Mayors/Governors in the US and other countries, former CIA/FBI employees (one is a direct family member), a past head of the Phillipino Intelligence Agency, numerous CEO's of large corporations, a former head of the DIA, and potentially some family members of some of those vaunted "Elite" familes that I went to school with.
That is what I'm telling you..

Presidents, Senators, mayors, CIA/FBI, etc, are some of the weakest, most pathetic and most utterly cowardly creature-things that have ever masqueraded in human form on this planet. What do you think it takes to murder for oil and $$, steal from widows and orphans, rape, pillage and torture, lie to the American public w/ every breath you take, etc, etc, etc..

You think this is how a strong, courageous, honorable man acts?

No, of course its not.

Only the most cowardly, most pathetic, most slavish man-beasts behave such animal-like (<- bad analogy, since even animals are not this vile and vicious and murderous), disgraceful manner.

I'll give you that on most polticians, but many of the others I've met are anything but what you claim. The reason we got on this tangent was my assertion on the limitations that human beings have, and then you go along a kind of agree with me, YET will turn around and grant them skills and powers of manipulation that are beyond their skills. It's the former or the later, not both. I stick to the former.
Is this why you're too scared to come forward and "publicly" (<- using that term lightly on an Internet forum) admit the obvious: that the government carried out 9/11?

You're too terrified of what all your "high-society" friends and associates will think of you?

[psholtz]

JDHURF wrote: If psholtz had PM’d me and admitted that he was propagating a hoax I would have kept it to myself but he has actually insisted that he is genuinely serious, which, I believe, speaks volumes about his character.
Compare the statement above to this statement:

JDHURF wrote: Admit it, this is just a gag…you can PM me if you wish. I can keep secrets too.
Yeah... you're *great* at keeping secrets, aren't you? :rotf:

You kept that secret for all of about 3 minutes.. :lol:

Truly, my friend.. it speaks volumes about your character.. :-D

[JDHURF]

psholtz wrote: JDHURF wrote: If psholtz had PM’d me and admitted that he was propagating a hoax I would have kept it to myself but he has actually insisted that he is genuinely serious, which, I believe, speaks volumes about his character.
Compare the statement above to this statement:

JDHURF wrote: Admit it, this is just a gag…you can PM me if you wish. I can keep secrets too.
Yeah... you're *great* at keeping secrets, aren't you?

You kept that secret for all of about 3 minutes..

Truly, my friend.. it speaks volumes about your character.. :-D However, as I stated in my post, there was not a secret to keep. So I have not negated my personal integrity or honesty in the least, if you are to suggest that it is a secret that you truly believe in the conspiracy you put forth, then, that is another issue altogether.

[psholtz]

JDHURF wrote: psholtz wrote: JDHURF wrote: If psholtz had PM’d me and admitted that he was propagating a hoax I would have kept it to myself but he has actually insisted that he is genuinely serious, which, I believe, speaks volumes about his character.
Compare the statement above to this statement:

JDHURF wrote: Admit it, this is just a gag…you can PM me if you wish. I can keep secrets too.
Yeah... you're *great* at keeping secrets, aren't you?

You kept that secret for all of about 3 minutes..

Truly, my friend.. it speaks volumes about your character.. :-D However, as I stated in my post, there was not a secret to keep.


Isn't this what they call "back-pedaling".. :lol:

[JDHURF]

psholtz wrote: JDHURF wrote: However, as I stated in my post, there was not a secret to keep.


Isn't this what they call "back-pedaling".. :lol: You are being intellectually deceitful here, something that seems to come to you very easily. You did not tell me any secrets and as such I have not lied, back-peddled or deceieved. You cannot possibly be this dense. If you had told me that your account was a hoax – which would have been a secret – I would have kept it to myself. However you did not do this, you merely insisted that what you have said thus far on the public forum was sincere – clearly this is not a secret – and as such I have not divulged any secrets and I have not negated my previous comments.

[cap'n queasy]

I'd like to see some of the evidence that shows George Bush eats the brains of infants.

I've never heard that one before. :-D

[psholtz]

JDHURF wrote: If you had told me that your account was a hoax – which would have been a secret – I would have kept it to myself.
Yeah... :lol:

I have 17,200+ posts over 2 1/2 years and ... here's the secret: my whole account and post history is really a total fake.. :shifty:

You know, a quick glance at my profile might clear such questions up pretty quickly in the minds of most readers..

You do the moderators of this forum too much kindness..

I blame the public schools..

[psholtz]

cap'n queasy wrote: I'd like to see some of the evidence that shows George Bush eats the brains of infants.

I've never heard that one before. :-D
I never said there was (public) evidence.

I just said that if this is something Bush engages in, we could pretty safely (and logically) conclude that Bush was a Satanist..

[cap'n queasy]

psholtz wrote: cap'n queasy wrote: I'd like to see some of the evidence that shows George Bush eats the brains of infants.

I've never heard that one before. :-D
I never said there was (public) evidence.

I just said that if this is something Bush engages in, we could pretty safely (and logically) conclude that Bush was a Satanist..

Well, I would say he was probably a zombie if he did this. :-D

[psholtz]

cap'n queasy wrote: psholtz wrote: cap'n queasy wrote: I'd like to see some of the evidence that shows George Bush eats the brains of infants.

I've never heard that one before. :-D
I never said there was (public) evidence.

I just said that if this is something Bush engages in, we could pretty safely (and logically) conclude that Bush was a Satanist..

Well, I would say he was probably a zombie if he did this. :-D
I would have to agree w/ you..

"Zombie" is a very perfect way to describe the speech and behavior of the sitting president..

[NAB]

psholtz wrote: NAB wrote: psholtz wrote: NAB wrote: Maybe I should have been a bit more specific then. I wasn't referring to just Joe Six Pack. I would number some of these people I've met to fall under such categories as past and current US presidents, former/current presidents/Mayors/Governors in the US and other countries, former CIA/FBI employees (one is a direct family member), a past head of the Phillipino Intelligence Agency, numerous CEO's of large corporations, a former head of the DIA, and potentially some family members of some of those vaunted "Elite" familes that I went to school with.
That is what I'm telling you..

Presidents, Senators, mayors, CIA/FBI, etc, are some of the weakest, most pathetic and most utterly cowardly creature-things that have ever masqueraded in human form on this planet. What do you think it takes to murder for oil and $$, steal from widows and orphans, rape, pillage and torture, lie to the American public w/ every breath you take, etc, etc, etc..

You think this is how a strong, courageous, honorable man acts?

No, of course its not.

Only the most cowardly, most pathetic, most slavish man-beasts behave such animal-like (<- bad analogy, since even animals are not this vile and vicious and murderous), disgraceful manner.

I'll give you that on most polticians, but many of the others I've met are anything but what you claim. The reason we got on this tangent was my assertion on the limitations that human beings have, and then you go along a kind of agree with me, YET will turn around and grant them skills and powers of manipulation that are beyond their skills. It's the former or the later, not both. I stick to the former.
Is this why you're too scared to come forward and "publicly" (<- using that term lightly on an Internet forum) admit the obvious: that the government carried out 9/11?

You're too terrified of what all your "high-society" friends and associates will think of you?

I tell you what, you've definitely got some creativity in you. :lol:

I'm not "too scared" of anyone or anything, nor am I beholden to my "high society" friends, as you call them. If you met me in person (which I'm not planning on) you would know that instantly. I take no bulls**t from anyone, which extends to any and all I come across.

Btw, one of the FBI agents I mentioned is my father (also a retired Marine if that matters), so he would merely blush if it was ever insinuated he was "high society". :wink:

There is no proof (see that bolded word, because it's meaning seems to escape you sometimes, but I take very seriously) that anything of the such has transpired. I've mentioned this before in this forum but it bears repeating. I had a discussion with my wife one night concerning the 911 "theories", and she had an interesting reaction to them. For a bit of background, she's probably what you would refer to a "sheeple", as in she's not particularly interested in politics and world events unless they have some direct (her words not mine) impact on her. Don't confuse this attitude for someone without smarts, she's just got a lot of s**t going on and is very busy in her daily life, but at least she'll listen when something is brought to her attention (an opinion I personally have of a good majority of Americans). Anyway, I mentioned these theories to her and she was a bit upset. Not that she instantly believed them, to the contrary, but she said if there were ever conclusive evidence that it was an inside job she would want to leave this country immediately, and she meant it. I'm kind of with her on that account. We have the wherewithal and professional experience that we could pretty much get a job in another country rather easily.

I'm still waiting for that reason to contemplate a change of scenery, and have seen not one iota from anyone in this forum, other forums I'm a member of, OR on any of the research I've done on my own. This is important to me, so let it be known I've looked at the "evidence" with as unbiased an approach as I'm humanly capable. It's not there...........

Sorry :wink:

[JohnnyQ]

Well with the NAU being established and the Executive branch too powerful, leaving the country doesn't seem all that bad right about now. But nah, I'll stay and fight for the America I once read in history books. It's worth it.

[psholtz]

NAB wrote: For a bit of background, she's probably what you would refer to a "sheeple", as in she's not particularly interested in politics and world events unless they have some direct (her words not mine) impact on her.
Same thing happened to the Germans in the 1930s..

Too "busy" to care about politics.. Didn't have "time" for it..

See what happened there.. :-|

Quote: Don't confuse this attitude for someone without smarts, she's just got a lot of s**t going on and is very busy in her daily life, but at least she'll listen when something is brought to her attention (an opinion I personally have of a good majority of Americans). Anyway, I mentioned these theories to her and she was a bit upset. Not that she instantly believed them, to the contrary, but she said if there were ever conclusive evidence that it was an inside job she would want to leave this country immediately, and she meant it.
Yes, so she is a sheeple..

Please don't take this the wrong way, but as I've said before, you seem to have this pattern of hanging out w/ weak and cowardly individuals. The *real* American would stay and fight and work to re-establish the Republic and Constitutional government... or at least *try* to do so before cutting and running..

But if cutting and running is what floats your boat, so be it. Sam Adams had some choice words in this respect.

Quote: I'm kind of with her on that account. We have the wherewithal and professional experience that we could pretty much get a job in another country rather easily.
I've said before that living in the US right now is like living in Berlin, 1936.

There is a difference this time, of course, and that's that there is no place to run. You can't hide from these people just by "re-locating". They'll get you (this time around) no matter where you live.

Quote: This is important to me, so let it be known I've looked at the "evidence" with as unbiased an approach as I'm humanly capable. It's not there...........
Yes, you surfed USENET and you found a thread about how holograms were used to knock down the WTC, and you decided this was the be-all and end-all of 9/11 "conspiracy" theories, to your own innate satisfaction..

Whatever..

[cap'n queasy]

Quote: Same thing happened to the Germans in the 1930s..

What happened was the German people listened to an **** that told them there was a conspiracy to destroy them, and installed a different type of government in response.

Didn't work out all that well for them.

[Mighty Oak]

Quote: people listened to an ***hole that told them there was a conspiracy to destroy them, and installed a different type of government in response.
This sounds familiar Quote: Didn't work out all that well for them. It never does

[Patriot911]

Mighty Oak wrote: Quote: people listened to an ***hole that told them there was a conspiracy to destroy them, and installed a different type of government in response.
This sounds familiar

Hitler installed himself as dictator within weeks of the fire. It has been over five years now yet Bush hasn't made a move to change the government or to keep himself in power. So you're the one making the claim these two events are the same. Where is Bush's power play to keep himself in power? When does he change the laws and go into a third term or install himself as dictator?

Conspiracy theorists who wish to claim 9/11 is along the same lines as the Reichstag fires only show their ignorance of what happened in Germany and what has happened here while showing their foolish willingness to draw connections where the ONLY similarity is the destruction of a landmark.

[Mighty Oak]

Patriot911 wrote: Mighty Oak wrote: Quote: people listened to an ***hole that told them there was a conspiracy to destroy them, and installed a different type of government in response.
This sounds familiar

Hitler installed himself as dictator within weeks of the fire. It has been over five years now yet Bush hasn't made a move to change the government or to keep himself in power. So you're the one making the claim these two events are the same. Where is Bush's power play to keep himself in power? When does he change the laws and go into a third term or install himself as dictator?

Conspiracy theorists who wish to claim 9/11 is along the same lines as the Reichstag fires only show their ignorance of what happened in Germany and what has happened here while showing their foolish willingness to draw connections where the ONLY similarity is the destruction of a landmark. I'll tell you what shows ignorance,and thats thinking it would be done the same way.Step out of your box.

[cap'n queasy]

Mighty Oak wrote: Patriot911 wrote: Mighty Oak wrote: Quote: people listened to an ***hole that told them there was a conspiracy to destroy them, and installed a different type of government in response.
This sounds familiar

Hitler installed himself as dictator within weeks of the fire. It has been over five years now yet Bush hasn't made a move to change the government or to keep himself in power. So you're the one making the claim these two events are the same. Where is Bush's power play to keep himself in power? When does he change the laws and go into a third term or install himself as dictator?

Conspiracy theorists who wish to claim 9/11 is along the same lines as the Reichstag fires only show their ignorance of what happened in Germany and what has happened here while showing their foolish willingness to draw connections where the ONLY similarity is the destruction of a landmark. I'll tell you what shows ignorance,and thats thinking it would be done the same way.Step out of your box.

Sooner or later Bush will have to make his power play. Or it's not a coup.

Yet it don't seem to be happening.

Take the box you have over your head off. It's crumpling your tinfoil hat and harmful Neocon radiation will get in and control your mind.

[Mighty Oak]

cap'n queasy wrote: Mighty Oak wrote: Patriot911 wrote: Mighty Oak wrote: Quote: people listened to an ***hole that told them there was a conspiracy to destroy them, and installed a different type of government in response.
This sounds familiar

Hitler installed himself as dictator within weeks of the fire. It has been over five years now yet Bush hasn't made a move to change the government or to keep himself in power. So you're the one making the claim these two events are the same. Where is Bush's power play to keep himself in power? When does he change the laws and go into a third term or install himself as dictator?

Conspiracy theorists who wish to claim 9/11 is along the same lines as the Reichstag fires only show their ignorance of what happened in Germany and what has happened here while showing their foolish willingness to draw connections where the ONLY similarity is the destruction of a landmark. I'll tell you what shows ignorance,and thats thinking it would be done the same way.Step out of your box.

Sooner or later Bush will have to make his power play. Or it's not a coup.

Yet it don't seem to be happening.

Take the box you have over your head off. It's crumpling your tinfoil hat and harmful Neocon radiation will get in and control your mind. Wow I've never been ridiculed before :lol: As I said,it's not going to mirror Germany.Electronic voteing tell you anything?

[Patriot911]

Mighty Oak wrote: cap'n queasy wrote: Mighty Oak wrote: Patriot911 wrote: Mighty Oak wrote: Quote: people listened to an ***hole that told them there was a conspiracy to destroy them, and installed a different type of government in response.
This sounds familiar

Hitler installed himself as dictator within weeks of the fire. It has been over five years now yet Bush hasn't made a move to change the government or to keep himself in power. So you're the one making the claim these two events are the same. Where is Bush's power play to keep himself in power? When does he change the laws and go into a third term or install himself as dictator?

Conspiracy theorists who wish to claim 9/11 is along the same lines as the Reichstag fires only show their ignorance of what happened in Germany and what has happened here while showing their foolish willingness to draw connections where the ONLY similarity is the destruction of a landmark. I'll tell you what shows ignorance,and thats thinking it would be done the same way.Step out of your box.

Sooner or later Bush will have to make his power play. Or it's not a coup.

Yet it don't seem to be happening.

Take the box you have over your head off. It's crumpling your tinfoil hat and harmful Neocon radiation will get in and control your mind. Wow I've never been ridiculed before :lol: As I said,it's not going to mirror Germany.Electronic voteing tell you anything?

Yeah. It tells me you are gullible enough to believe the vote was fixed as well. :lol: Tell me. How is Bush going to rig the vote so he stays in power in 2008?