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lilwolf · Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 12552 Location: idaho

This in my opinion is indeed a major victory for the citizens of New Orleans and the unalwful confiscation of guns in the wake of Hurricane Katrina. In my opinion the entire illegal actions of the N.O. Police Deaprtments warrant the legal actions that are now being taken.

Statement from Chris W. Cox on NRA's Lawsuit Against the City of New Orleans

Wednesday, August 16, 2006

Today, in a landmark victory for NRA and law-abiding gun owners, Judge Carl J. Barbier of the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Louisiana denied the City of New Orleans’ motion to dismiss NRA’s lawsuit against the city and held that the Second Amendment applies to law-abiding residents in the State of Louisiana and the City of New Orleans. Straining the bounds of credibility and reflecting the true sentiment of anti-gunners, the City of New Orleans contemptuously argued that the Second Amendment does not apply to residents in the State of Louisiana and the City of New Orleans.

NRA first filed suit after reports surfaced indicating that, following Hurricane Katrina, firearms were confiscated from law-abiding New Orleans residents. Former New Orleans Police Chief Eddie Compass issued orders to confiscate firearms from all citizens, under a flawed state emergency powers law. With that one order, the one means of self-protection innocent victims had during a time of widespread civil disorder was stripped away.

NRA filed suit in federal court and won a preliminary injunction ending all the illegal gun confiscations. After the City of New Orleans failed to comply with the court’s ruling and dishonestly claimed that the gun confiscations never occurred, NRA filed a motion for contempt that included an order directing all seized firearms be returned to their rightful owners.

After denying the illegal confiscations for months, on March 15, 2006, Mayor Nagin and the New Orleans Police Department finally conceded in federal court that the seized firearms were stored in two trailers. The city then agreed in court to a process by which law-abiding citizens would be able to file a claim to receive their confiscated firearms. However, few firearms were returned because the NOPD never notified gun owners how to claim their guns, and turned many away citing impossible standards for proof of ownership.

Today’s ruling sets the stage for a continued legal fight in which NRA will be forced to expend additional resources to fight back the anti-gunner’s blatant and shameful attempts to ignore the Second Amendment. The case will now move to discovery and pre-trial preparation

http://www.nraila.org/News/Read/Releases.aspx?ID=8039

evil muppet · Joined: 17 Aug 2006 Posts: 316

I guess the NRA isn't entirely worthless.

lilwolf · Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 12552 Location: idaho

evil muppet wrote: I guess the NRA isn't entirely worthless.

Nope it never has been..... just always behind the scenes and fighting for all of our rights to keep and bear. :-D

ikari · Joined: 24 Sep 2004 Posts: 7085 Location: Colorado

lilwolf wrote: Nope it never has been..... just always behind the scenes and fighting for all of our rights to keep and bear. :-D

yeah? I never really thought the NRA did anything productive. It seemed that they were willing to accept some forms of gun regulation and attacks on the 2nd amendment. But it's good to hear that they are active, they should be doing more though to reverse the damage done to our right to bear arms and to proliferate it.

lilwolf · Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 12552 Location: idaho

ikari wrote: lilwolf wrote: Nope it never has been..... just always behind the scenes and fighting for all of our rights to keep and bear. :-D

yeah? I never really thought the NRA did anything productive. It seemed that they were willing to accept some forms of gun regulation and attacks on the 2nd amendment. But it's good to hear that they are active, they should be doing more though to reverse the damage done to our right to bear arms and to proliferate it.

Well they do accept some forms of regulation...especially the regs that keep the guns out of the hands of bad guys, but not those that help and protect law abiding folks.

micfranklin · Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 3:25 pm Post subject:

Even if it was temporary, I still think disarming the citizens was a bad way to go. Score one for N.O. citizens and their freedoms.

lilwolf · Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 12552 Location: idaho

micfranklin wrote: Even if it was temporary, I still think disarming the citizens was a bad way to go. Score one for N.O. citizens and their freedoms.

And they are getting their guns back from the cops and the crook nagin.

micfranklin · Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 4:29 pm Post subject:

lilwolf wrote: micfranklin wrote: Even if it was temporary, I still think disarming the citizens was a bad way to go. Score one for N.O. citizens and their freedoms.

And they are getting their guns back from the cops and the crook nagin.

They really shouldn't have had to surrender their weapons in the first place. Because if any crazy looter would've gone into a neighborhood, the law-abiding citizens would've been unarmed.

Lucky Luke · Joined: 28 Oct 2005 Posts: 8662 Location: Scotland

Nagin must be worried, or not:

Quote: Quote: Under the Nagin Administration, the City of New Orleans has made great progress in crime and public safety:

....................

Developed a “Gun Court” program, which identifies gun dealers and gets guns off the street before they can be used in a crime.

http://www.reelectmayornagin.com/Portals/MayorNagin/portal.aspx?tabid=8

Way to go Nagin!

Do you thing he could still be elected mayor after such a decisive victory from the NRA?

:-D
:-D

lilwolf · Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 12552 Location: idaho

micfranklin wrote: lilwolf wrote: micfranklin wrote: Even if it was temporary, I still think disarming the citizens was a bad way to go. Score one for N.O. citizens and their freedoms.

And they are getting their guns back from the cops and the crook nagin.

They really shouldn't have had to surrender their weapons in the first place. Because if any crazy looter would've gone into a neighborhood, the law-abiding citizens would've been unarmed.

Most were forced to surrender their weapons. Many did not know that it was illegal, but now no one can do it anywhere and that my friend is a damn good thing. My state just signed it into state law and I believe all 50 states have it now. So, the clowns in N.O. are not out of this yet.

The good people are getting their guns back and rightly so.

Lucky Luke · Joined: 28 Oct 2005 Posts: 8662 Location: Scotland

lilwolf wrote: micfranklin wrote: lilwolf wrote: micfranklin wrote: Even if it was temporary, I still think disarming the citizens was a bad way to go. Score one for N.O. citizens and their freedoms.

And they are getting their guns back from the cops and the crook nagin.

They really shouldn't have had to surrender their weapons in the first place. Because if any crazy looter would've gone into a neighborhood, the law-abiding citizens would've been unarmed.

Most were forced to surrender their weapons. Many did not know that it was illegal, but now no one can do it anywhere and that my friend is a damn good thing. My state just signed it into state law and I believe all 50 states have it now. So, the clowns in N.O. are not out of this yet.

The good people are getting their guns back and rightly so.

The good people of New Orleans would never elect such a clown in office again or would they?

:-D
:-D

lilwolf · Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 12552 Location: idaho

Lucky Luke wrote: lilwolf wrote: micfranklin wrote: lilwolf wrote: micfranklin wrote: Even if it was temporary, I still think disarming the citizens was a bad way to go. Score one for N.O. citizens and their freedoms.

And they are getting their guns back from the cops and the crook nagin.

They really shouldn't have had to surrender their weapons in the first place. Because if any crazy looter would've gone into a neighborhood, the law-abiding citizens would've been unarmed.

Most were forced to surrender their weapons. Many did not know that it was illegal, but now no one can do it anywhere and that my friend is a damn good thing. My state just signed it into state law and I believe all 50 states have it now. So, the clowns in N.O. are not out of this yet.

The good people are getting their guns back and rightly so.

The good people of New Orleans would never elect such a clown in office again or would they?

:-D
:-D

What ever you think LL.....who cares? :bana:

micfranklin · Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 5:43 pm Post subject:

lilwolf wrote: micfranklin wrote: lilwolf wrote: micfranklin wrote: Even if it was temporary, I still think disarming the citizens was a bad way to go. Score one for N.O. citizens and their freedoms.

And they are getting their guns back from the cops and the crook nagin.

They really shouldn't have had to surrender their weapons in the first place. Because if any crazy looter would've gone into a neighborhood, the law-abiding citizens would've been unarmed.

Most were forced to surrender their weapons. Many did not know that it was illegal, but now no one can do it anywhere and that my friend is a damn good thing. My state just signed it into state law and I believe all 50 states have it now. So, the clowns in N.O. are not out of this yet.

The good people are getting their guns back and rightly so.

Well I'm glad it worked out for the people of N.O. and every other state, but my concern is how long will it last?

lilwolf · Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 12552 Location: idaho

micfranklin wrote: lilwolf wrote: micfranklin wrote: lilwolf wrote: micfranklin wrote: Even if it was temporary, I still think disarming the citizens was a bad way to go. Score one for N.O. citizens and their freedoms.

And they are getting their guns back from the cops and the crook nagin.

They really shouldn't have had to surrender their weapons in the first place. Because if any crazy looter would've gone into a neighborhood, the law-abiding citizens would've been unarmed.

Once the boss man signs it it is law and not subject to legal challenge. Because of the way it ties into the 2nd it cannot be challenged.

Most were forced to surrender their weapons. Many did not know that it was illegal, but now no one can do it anywhere and that my friend is a damn good thing. My state just signed it into state law and I believe all 50 states have it now. So, the clowns in N.O. are not out of this yet.

The good people are getting their guns back and rightly so.

Well I'm glad it worked out for the people of N.O. and every other state, but my concern is how long will it last?

Thrilla · Joined: 23 May 2005 Posts: 21423 Location: Sin City

good stuff... especially after it was proven that the city of new Orleans lied about gun confiscations... oh yeah.. helluva Mayor that Nagin guy is :roll:

the NRA and SAF are the biggest "weapons" we have in dealing with this stuff.... i highly recommend membership and/or donations

micfranklin · Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 6:48 pm Post subject:

Thrilla wrote: good stuff... especially after it was proven that the city of new Orleans lied about gun confiscations... oh yeah.. helluva Mayor that Nagin guy is :roll:

the NRA and SAF are the biggest "weapons" we have in dealing with this stuff.... i highly recommend membership and/or donations

Nagin was probably the worst enemy of the second amendment.

mattman42 · Joined: 26 Apr 2005 Posts: 661 Location: Maine

The .gov should be required to provide each person with 100 rounds too. 8:)

Nice work, NRA.

lilwolf · Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 12552 Location: idaho

Thrilla wrote: good stuff... especially after it was proven that the city of new Orleans lied about gun confiscations... oh yeah.. helluva Mayor that Nagin guy is :roll:

the NRA and SAF are the biggest "weapons" we have in dealing with this stuff.... i highly recommend membership and/or donations

Did you know that nagin and the police clown are being investigated by the N.O. grand jury? They might get indicted as yet. Saw that on the TV today.....I hope they nail these SOB's.
Chances are pretty good they will get indicted all in all.

mattman42 · Joined: 26 Apr 2005 Posts: 661 Location: Maine

lilwolf wrote: Thrilla wrote: good stuff... especially after it was proven that the city of new Orleans lied about gun confiscations... oh yeah.. helluva Mayor that Nagin guy is :roll:

the NRA and SAF are the biggest "weapons" we have in dealing with this stuff.... i highly recommend membership and/or donations

Did you know that nagin and the police clown are being investigated by the N.O. grand jury? They might get indicted as yet. Saw that on the TV today.....I hope they nail these SOB's.
Chances are pretty good they will get indicted all in all.

Indicted for the gun confiscations or for something else?

lilwolf · Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 12552 Location: idaho

mattman42 wrote: lilwolf wrote: Thrilla wrote: good stuff... especially after it was proven that the city of new Orleans lied about gun confiscations... oh yeah.. helluva Mayor that Nagin guy is :roll:

the NRA and SAF are the biggest "weapons" we have in dealing with this stuff.... i highly recommend membership and/or donations

Did you know that nagin and the police clown are being investigated by the N.O. grand jury? They might get indicted as yet. Saw that on the TV today.....I hope they nail these SOB's.
Chances are pretty good they will get indicted all in all.

Indicted for the gun confiscations or for something else?

Being invesigated for illegal weapon seizure and violation of the 2nd amendment. Both of which are serious prison terms. There is also the possibility that they can be charged with grand theft of weapons. That in La carries a pretty stiff sentence.
It ain't over till the fat lady sings ....and I do not hear singing as yet.