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Sixgun_Symphony
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| Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 12:12 pm Post subject: Cemetery to bury all, Christians too, facing Mecca |
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Cemetery to bury all, Christians too, facing Mecca
Headstones aligned toward northeast so dead can look toward Islamic holy city
www.worldnetdaily.com
Robin Hood must be spinning in his grave.
A new, $4.7 million cemetery in Nottingham is the first public graveyard in the UK to have all its burial plots aligned with Mecca and to inter those of all faiths in the Muslim tradition.
All headstones at the 40-acre burial site will face northeast, enabling the dead to look over their shoulder toward Mecca, the manner prescribed for followers of Islam in the UK.
Church leaders have criticized the decision by local officials, saying that imposing a Muslim model on Christians, who traditionally are buried facing east, is discriminatory.
"This is a sensitive issue to all people. I hope the situation will be reviewed with wide consultation and a policy introduced that takes account of the needs of all," the Rt. Rev. George Cassidy, bishop of Southwell and Nottingham, told the London Daily Mail.
*full story*
Just goes to show that the multi-cultis are as much an enemy to Western Civlization as Al Qaida.
We all know about their "anti-war" movement. They support Hezboullah in the recent fighting in Lebanon, they undermine the US lead war on Islamic terrorism, they also support Islamic immigration (colonization) of Western nations.
The multi-cultis would throw open the gates of Vienna to the Ottoman Turks if they could travel back to the year 1529. |
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The Comrade
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| Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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one question for you.
if you're dead why do you care which way you're facing? |
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DSwain
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| Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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The Comrade wrote: one question for you.
if you're dead why do you care which way you're facing?
It's more to do with families of the dead which affects how we treat the bodies and the place of internment - otherwise we'd be dumping bodies in a landfill with old empty tins and newspapers wouldn't we?
This is a silly decision by well-meaning fools on the local council; it's clear that local Muslims are equally appalled and bemused by it.
http://www.thisisnottingham.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=133942&command=displayContent&sourceNode=201398&home=yes&more_nodeId1=133951&contentPK=15483807 |
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cap'n queasy
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| Welcome to Britistan. :lol: |
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Samantha
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| Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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Who cares?
Stupid issue. |
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lilwolf
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| Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Hell who cares once you are dead and your carcass is in the ground what does it matter. But of course we must be PC here now days... This type of absurdity has driven the world frggin nuts :roll: |
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Sixgun_Symphony
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Samantha wrote: Who cares?
Stupid issue.
If someone were to spraypaint swastikas all over a Jewish cemetary, then you would not say that.
But you and others think it is just fine to desecrate a Christian burial. |
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The Comrade
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| Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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Sixgun_Symphony wrote: Samantha wrote: Who cares?
Stupid issue.
If someone were to spraypaint swastikas all over a Jewish cemetary, then you would not say that.
But you and others think it is just fine to desecrate a Christian burial.
purposfully spray painting anti-jewish slander is completely different from having your body face a certain way.
for this to "desecrate a christian burial" islam would have to be offensive to christians. since this is not the case, your comparsion is not valid.
secondly, don't you think there are plenty of bodies facing mecca already? should those bodies be dug up and moved because they face mecca? |
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DSwain
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| Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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The Comrade wrote: Sixgun_Symphony wrote: Samantha wrote: Who cares?
Stupid issue.
If someone were to spraypaint swastikas all over a Jewish cemetary, then you would not say that.
But you and others think it is just fine to desecrate a Christian burial.
purposfully spray painting anti-jewish slander is completely different from having your body face a certain way.
for this to "desecrate a christian burial" islam would have to be offensive to christians. since this is not the case, your comparsion is not valid.
secondly, don't you think there are plenty of bodies facing mecca already? should those bodies be dug up and moved because they face mecca?
Personally I really don't care which way my old body faces when I meet the Grim Reaper. But some people, some Christians, will have a problem. This graveyard is a municipal property and should, IMO, reflect the wishes of all of its 'occupants'. So, a section for Muslims whose families wish them to face Mecca and a section for Christians to face the direction their families wish them to face. Interestingly, other local authorities that border Nottingham City Council follow that policy. |
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Angelicus
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The Comrade wrote: one question for you.
if you're dead why do you care which way you're facing?
Amen! I too thought who cares what way they are faced if they are dead.
When I am dead, they can throw me in a hole in the ground in a glad bag for all I will care......LOL |
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glencharles
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| Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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Samantha wrote: Who cares?
Stupid issue.
I care. Today its something minor.
Next year, all cows will be slaughtered according to Islamic tradition.
In a decade, all little girls will be required to wear scarves in school.
30 years from now they wont be allowed to vote. |
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The Comrade
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| Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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glencharles wrote: Samantha wrote: Who cares?
Stupid issue.
I care. Today its something minor.
Next year, all cows will be slaughtered according to Islamic tradition.
In a decade, all little girls will be required to wear scarves in school.
30 years from now they wont be allowed to vote.
hyperbole. |
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ieatfood
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| Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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what happenned to separation of church and state?
if its a public cemetary, you should be able to get buried in any position |
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$orideals
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It is another example of an issue that has been taken to an absolute. If any group has to be buried in a specific manner then they had better buy themselves the appropriate amount of land to satisfy their personal religious agendas.
In a public cemetary some uniformity in the plotting of the stones is probably a good idea, but it would be best to pick a direction that has nothing to do with any religious group.
If Christians or Muslims require a specific direction then the public cemetary is not for them. |
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glencharles
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| Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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The Comrade wrote: glencharles wrote: Samantha wrote: Who cares?
Stupid issue.
I care. Today its something minor.
Next year, all cows will be slaughtered according to Islamic tradition.
In a decade, all little girls will be required to wear scarves in school.
30 years from now they wont be allowed to vote.
hyperbole.
No, I am not overstating a thing. This is exactly what happens. |
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Sixgun_Symphony
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The Comrade wrote: Sixgun_Symphony wrote: Samantha wrote: Who cares?
Stupid issue.
If someone were to spraypaint swastikas all over a Jewish cemetary, then you would not say that.
But you and others think it is just fine to desecrate a Christian burial.
purposfully spray painting anti-jewish slander is completely different from having your body face a certain way.
for this to "desecrate a christian burial" islam would have to be offensive to christians. since this is not the case, your comparsion is not valid.
secondly, don't you think there are plenty of bodies facing mecca already? should those bodies be dug up and moved because they face mecca?
It is blasphemy to have Christian graves pointed towards Mecca. Islam worships a false prophet and a false god.
No, it has not been done before, that is why it got on the news. |
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perdidochas
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| Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:16 am Post subject: Re: Cemetery to bury all, Christians too, facing Mecca |
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Sixgun_Symphony wrote: Cemetery to bury all, Christians too, facing Mecca
Headstones aligned toward northeast so dead can look toward Islamic holy city
www.worldnetdaily.com
Robin Hood must be spinning in his grave.
A new, $4.7 million cemetery in Nottingham is the first public graveyard in the UK to have all its burial plots aligned with Mecca and to inter those of all faiths in the Muslim tradition.
All headstones at the 40-acre burial site will face northeast, enabling the dead to look over their shoulder toward Mecca, the manner prescribed for followers of Islam in the UK.
Church leaders have criticized the decision by local officials, saying that imposing a Muslim model on Christians, who traditionally are buried facing east, is discriminatory.
"This is a sensitive issue to all people. I hope the situation will be reviewed with wide consultation and a policy introduced that takes account of the needs of all," the Rt. Rev. George Cassidy, bishop of Southwell and Nottingham, told the London Daily Mail.
*full story*
Just goes to show that the multi-cultis are as much an enemy to Western Civlization as Al Qaida.
We all know about their "anti-war" movement. They support Hezboullah in the recent fighting in Lebanon, they undermine the US lead war on Islamic terrorism, they also support Islamic immigration (colonization) of Western nations.
The multi-cultis would throw open the gates of Vienna to the Ottoman Turks if they could travel back to the year 1529.
It doesn't matter. I'm Christian, and I wouldn't care what direction my grave faces. |
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perdidochas
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| Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:17 am Post subject: |
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Sixgun_Symphony wrote: Samantha wrote: Who cares?
Stupid issue.
If someone were to spraypaint swastikas all over a Jewish cemetary, then you would not say that.
But you and others think it is just fine to desecrate a Christian burial.
It's desecration to be buried facing Mecca? Where in the Bible does it say that? |
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mendosan
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DSwain wrote: The Comrade wrote: one question for you.
if you're dead why do you care which way you're facing?
It's more to do with families of the dead which affects how we treat the bodies and the place of internment - otherwise we'd be dumping bodies in a landfill with old empty tins and newspapers wouldn't we?
This is a silly decision by well-meaning fools on the local council; it's clear that local Muslims are equally appalled and bemused by it.
http://www.thisisnottingham.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=133942&command=displayContent&sourceNode=201398&home=yes&more_nodeId1=133951&contentPK=15483807
Another amazing example of the Muslim community not being asked if they want something, people just assuming they know what they want, no wonder they feel alienated, more bad publicity. |
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perdidochas
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| Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:23 am Post subject: |
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Sixgun_Symphony wrote: The Comrade wrote: Sixgun_Symphony wrote: Samantha wrote: Who cares?
Stupid issue.
If someone were to spraypaint swastikas all over a Jewish cemetary, then you would not say that.
But you and others think it is just fine to desecrate a Christian burial.
purposfully spray painting anti-jewish slander is completely different from having your body face a certain way.
for this to "desecrate a christian burial" islam would have to be offensive to christians. since this is not the case, your comparsion is not valid.
secondly, don't you think there are plenty of bodies facing mecca already? should those bodies be dug up and moved because they face mecca?
It is blasphemy to have Christian graves pointed towards Mecca. Islam worships a false prophet and a false god.
No, it has not been done before, that is why it got on the news.
I'm Christian, and I don't see how it's blasphemy. Now, I could see if they required a crescent (or whatever) on the headstone, that it would be blasphemy, but otherwise? |
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