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Infinite911911

The Religon of Peace speaks again, this time calling for the Death of Pope...

Quote: A notorious Muslim extremist told a demonstration in London yesterday that the Pope should face execution. Anjem Choudary said those who insulted Islam would be "subject to capital punishment".

Quote: A nun was shot dead in Somalia by Islamic gunmen and churches came under attack in Palestine.

Quote: Protesters carried placards declaring "Behead Those Who Insult Islam"

Quote: "Whoever insults the message of Mohammed is going to be subject to capital punishment."

Quote: As well as placards attacking the Pope such as "Pope go to Hell", his followers outside the country's principal Roman Catholic church also waved slogans aimed at offending the sentiments of Christians such as "Jesus is the slave of Allah".

Quote: Iraqi jihadists issued a video of a scimitar slicing a cross in two, intercut with images of Benedict and the burning Twin Towers.

Islam...so peaceful. :gdgf:

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23367232-details/The+Pope+must+die%2C+says+Muslim/article.do

Colin · Joined: 07 Aug 2006 Posts: 291 Location: Toronto, Ontario

It's not their fault that collectively Islam has failed to evolve in the slightest during the last 500 years.

Otacon · Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:17 am Post subject:

It's not the fault of most Muslims that a small group of extremists give them a bad name.

BigOMG · Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:20 am Post subject:

Otacon wrote: It's not the fault of most Muslims that a small group of extremists give them a bad name.

Why isn't it?

Shouldn't they stand up and say they are against "radical" muslims? In fact I think the rest of the world has the right to demand it from them. Islam is not a religion of peace, never has been, never will be. Once the "PC" crowd stop wetting themselves every time someone attacks islam the world can start being a better place.

Need an example, look into Islamic laws as directed by the Koran. Says it all for the semi literate.

Fiduciary · Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:20 am Post subject:

Otacon wrote: It's not the fault of most Muslims that a small group of extremists give them a bad name.

Every religion or even any large group of people has it's extremists..

I'm just not convinced it's some small group of Muslims, it seems to be thousands or more. Remember them dancing in the streets after 9/11??

thefranzkafkafront · Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:20 am Post subject:

how many times have you had this stupid claim refuted now Infinite911911. Your making me sounds like a broken record.

Dookiestix

Infinite911911 wrote: The Religon of Peace speaks again, this time calling for the Death of Pope...

Quote: A notorious Muslim extremist told a demonstration in London yesterday that the Pope should face execution. Anjem Choudary said those who insulted Islam would be "subject to capital punishment".

Quote: A nun was shot dead in Somalia by Islamic gunmen and churches came under attack in Palestine.

Quote: Protesters carried placards declaring "Behead Those Who Insult Islam"

Quote: "Whoever insults the message of Mohammed is going to be subject to capital punishment."

Quote: As well as placards attacking the Pope such as "Pope go to Hell", his followers outside the country's principal Roman Catholic church also waved slogans aimed at offending the sentiments of Christians such as "Jesus is the slave of Allah".

Quote: Iraqi jihadists issued a video of a scimitar slicing a cross in two, intercut with images of Benedict and the burning Twin Towers.

Islam...so peaceful. :gdgf:

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23367232-details/The+Pope+must+die%2C+says+Muslim/article.do
What do you suggest we do then other than complain?

Infinite911911 · Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:22 am Post subject:

BigOMG wrote: Otacon wrote: It's not the fault of most Muslims that a small group of extremists give them a bad name.

Why isn't it?

Shouldn't they stand up and say they are against "radical" muslims? In fact I think the rest of the world has the right to demand it from them. Islam is not a religion of peace, never has been, never will be. Once the "PC" crowd stop wetting themselves every time someone attacks islam the world can start being a better place.

Need an example, look into Islamic laws as directed by the Koran. Says it all for the semi literate.

:clap:

Fiduciary

Infinite911911 wrote: The Religon of Peace speaks again, this time calling for the Death of Pope...

Quote: A notorious Muslim extremist told a demonstration in London yesterday that the Pope should face execution. Anjem Choudary said those who insulted Islam would be "subject to capital punishment".

Quote: A nun was shot dead in Somalia by Islamic gunmen and churches came under attack in Palestine.

Quote: Protesters carried placards declaring "Behead Those Who Insult Islam"

Quote: "Whoever insults the message of Mohammed is going to be subject to capital punishment."

Quote: As well as placards attacking the Pope such as "Pope go to Hell", his followers outside the country's principal Roman Catholic church also waved slogans aimed at offending the sentiments of Christians such as "Jesus is the slave of Allah".

Quote: Iraqi jihadists issued a video of a scimitar slicing a cross in two, intercut with images of Benedict and the burning Twin Towers.

Islam...so peaceful. :gdgf:

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23367232-details/The+Pope+must+die%2C+says+Muslim/article.do

It seems to be the norm to respons to accusations of violence with, well, VIOLENCE. Even extreme violence.

Do they realize they prove the point with their responses??

I cannot understand these people.

Silkheat · Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 5981 Location: Austin

BigOMG wrote: Otacon wrote: It's not the fault of most Muslims that a small group of extremists give them a bad name.

Why isn't it?

Shouldn't they stand up and say they are against "radical" muslims? In fact I think the rest of the world has the right to demand it from them. Islam is not a religion of peace, never has been, never will be. Once the "PC" crowd stop wetting themselves every time someone attacks islam the world can start being a better place.

Need an example, look into Islamic laws as directed by the Koran. Says it all for the semi literate.

Again though look into the Talmud, or even the old testament and you see violence. I agree though the Muslim reaction to criticism cannot be tolerated. It is like the christian reaction a hundred years ago.

poweRob · Joined: 14 Jul 2004 Posts: 22671

moved to religion

beachbum bob · Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:23 am Post subject:

so the extremists sets the bar for their religion now???

man, I hope no one reads Falwell or Robertson...

we be in trouble

LostSoul3412 · Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 8880

Infinite911911 wrote: Islam...so peaceful. :gdgf:

"Stop calling us violent! Now, just for that, we're going to go blow stuff up!"

Fiduciary · Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:24 am Post subject:

Silkheat wrote: BigOMG wrote: Otacon wrote: It's not the fault of most Muslims that a small group of extremists give them a bad name.

Why isn't it?

Shouldn't they stand up and say they are against "radical" muslims? In fact I think the rest of the world has the right to demand it from them. Islam is not a religion of peace, never has been, never will be. Once the "PC" crowd stop wetting themselves every time someone attacks islam the world can start being a better place.

Need an example, look into Islamic laws as directed by the Koran. Says it all for the semi literate.

Again though look into the Talmud, or even the old testament and you see violence. I agree though the Muslim reaction to criticism cannot be tolerated. It is like the christian reaction a hundred years ago.

Old testament= 3000 years old??

thefranzkafkafront · Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:25 am Post subject:

BigOMG wrote: Otacon wrote: It's not the fault of most Muslims that a small group of extremists give them a bad name.

Why isn't it?

Shouldn't they stand up and say they are against "radical" muslims? In fact I think the rest of the world has the right to demand it from them. Islam is not a religion of peace, never has been, never will be. Once the "PC" crowd stop wetting themselves every time someone attacks islam the world can start being a better place.

They try but no one listens.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=muslims+against+terrorism&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

Must be the 8th or 9th time i've posted that link.

This argument has been on PCF more times than i care to count, and every time with little ego i can say it has been dimissed, not by the PC crowd (unless some one wants to outline how im PC exaclty) but myself.

My essential premise being as follows.

The basis of allrelgion (proper, we could get into a debate about what exaclty a relgion is, but for the moment lets just stick with that relgion is orginal scripture alone) is scripture. All arbahamic relgions share pretty much the same scripture, and pretty much the same instances of violence in said scripture.

All abrahamic relgions have a violent past.

Therefore logically one most conclude, either all abrahamic relgions are inherently violent, or none of them are.

Quote:
Need an example, look into Islamic laws as directed by the Koran. Says it all for the semi literate.

Sharia law, which I assume your refering to is non scripural, it was cooked up by a bunch of Imans in the 12th centary.

Fiduciary · Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:27 am Post subject:

beachbum bob wrote: so the extremists sets the bar for their religion now???

man, I hope no one reads Falwell or Robertson...

we be in trouble

handfull vs. thousands.

Analogy proven BUNK.

thefranzkafkafront · Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:29 am Post subject:

Fiduciary wrote: Silkheat wrote: BigOMG wrote: Otacon wrote: It's not the fault of most Muslims that a small group of extremists give them a bad name.

Why isn't it?

Shouldn't they stand up and say they are against "radical" muslims? In fact I think the rest of the world has the right to demand it from them. Islam is not a religion of peace, never has been, never will be. Once the "PC" crowd stop wetting themselves every time someone attacks islam the world can start being a better place.

Need an example, look into Islamic laws as directed by the Koran. Says it all for the semi literate.

Again though look into the Talmud, or even the old testament and you see violence. I agree though the Muslim reaction to criticism cannot be tolerated. It is like the christian reaction a hundred years ago.

Old testament= 3000 years old??

Around about that yes. Some where inbetween ancient Judea, the babalonian excile and the maccabean peroid. 3400 to around 2100 years old.

LetsGetReal · Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 5791 Location: Peoria, AZ

thefranzkafkafront wrote: BigOMG wrote: Otacon wrote: It's not the fault of most Muslims that a small group of extremists give them a bad name.

Why isn't it?

Shouldn't they stand up and say they are against "radical" muslims? In fact I think the rest of the world has the right to demand it from them. Islam is not a religion of peace, never has been, never will be. Once the "PC" crowd stop wetting themselves every time someone attacks islam the world can start being a better place.

They try but no one listens.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=muslims+against+terrorism&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

Must be the 8th or 9th time i've posted that link.

This argument has been on PCF more times than i care to count, and every time with little ego i can say it has been dimissed, not by the PC crowd (unless some one wants to outline how im PC exaclty) but myself.

My essential premise being as follows.

The basis of allrelgion (proper, we could get into a debate about what exaclty a relgion is, but for the moment lets just stick with that relgion is orginal scripture alone) is scripture. All arbahamic relgions share pretty much the same scripture, and pretty much the same instances of violence in said scripture.

All abrahamic relgions have a violent past.

Therefore logically one most conclude, either all abrahamic relgions are inherently violent, or none of them are.

Quote:
Need an example, look into Islamic laws as directed by the Koran. Says it all for the semi literate.

Sharia law, which I assume your refering to is non scripural, it was cooked up by a bunch of Imans in the 12th centary. Its law they follow though...Don't make excuses Franz for the Muslims tendency to go violence first to be "victorious". Remember 9/11 were almost all Muslim countries dancing in the streets?

Otacon · Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 12:38 pm Post subject:

Infinite911911 wrote: BigOMG wrote: Otacon wrote: It's not the fault of most Muslims that a small group of extremists give them a bad name.

Why isn't it?

Shouldn't they stand up and say they are against "radical" muslims? In fact I think the rest of the world has the right to demand it from them. Islam is not a religion of peace, never has been, never will be. Once the "PC" crowd stop wetting themselves every time someone attacks islam the world can start being a better place.

Need an example, look into Islamic laws as directed by the Koran. Says it all for the semi literate.

:clap:

When are the Christians going to stand up against the radical Christians? Religion, no matter what branch you follow, has the been the single largest cause of death in the World.

Infinite911911 · Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 1:08 pm Post subject:

Otacon wrote: Infinite911911 wrote: BigOMG wrote: Otacon wrote: It's not the fault of most Muslims that a small group of extremists give them a bad name.

Why isn't it?

Shouldn't they stand up and say they are against "radical" muslims? In fact I think the rest of the world has the right to demand it from them. Islam is not a religion of peace, never has been, never will be. Once the "PC" crowd stop wetting themselves every time someone attacks islam the world can start being a better place.

Need an example, look into Islamic laws as directed by the Koran. Says it all for the semi literate.

:clap:

When are the Christians going to stand up against the radical Christians? Religion, no matter what branch you follow, has the been the single largest cause of death in the World.

Let me know next time Christians highjack a plane full of people and ram it into a building in the name of Jesus ok? Or for that matter anything else you see on the News EVERY day that Muslims are doing in the name of Allah.