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lilwolf · Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 12031 Location: idaho

fiction416 wrote: lilwolf wrote: the sane voice wrote: fiction416 wrote: the sane voice wrote: fiction416 wrote: lilwolf wrote: Do you really expect the US to assist the lebanese govt with weapons?

Why not, the helped Iran with weapons, afterall!
they also helped and trained al quiada.its all gimmi carter.
they wont train al quaida now will they?

More like Bush 1
no it was during soviet union war in Afghanistan.

hey fiction who was the pres in the 80's during the war with russia and the mujahadeen?
No bush 1.... :lol:

Who was in office for the Iran Contra scandal.... Reagan & Bush

Who negotiated with Iran to free the hostages... it was Bush & the hostages were freed when him & reagan came into office

Carter started the ball rolling with afghanistan fiction and then reagan inherited the mess. I was there okay.

fiction416 · Joined: 02 Sep 2006 Posts: 620 Location: purgatory

the sane voice wrote: fiction416 wrote: the sane voice wrote:
you havent contradicted me.

LOL - who said I did, in the first place?
you know fiction if you dont have a real point dont quote me-i said it was gimmi carter who helped the afgan rebels.the us wont help the afgan thaliban and al quida now will they?
regardless to what theyve done in the past.

Fine - do you have a link that you could provide, to help edify me, about gimmi cater & AQ

?

the sane voice · Joined: 07 Sep 2006 Posts: 2512

fiction416 wrote: the sane voice wrote: fiction416 wrote: the sane voice wrote:
you havent contradicted me.

LOL - who said I did, in the first place?
you know fiction if you dont have a real point dont quote me-i said it was gimmi carter who helped the afgan rebels.the us wont help the afgan thaliban and al quida now will they?
regardless to what theyve done in the past.

Fine - do you have a link that you could provide, to help edify me, about gimmi cater & AQ

?
ill think about you

ALi* · Joined: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 427 Location: Beirut

Quote: **why doesnt hezbollah gives its weapons to the lebanease army?
it will at some point.... but at the right time
the right time??? read previous post of mine.

Quote: The main and only reason the hez Kitty Cats do not want the lebanese military in there is so they can continue to attack Israel with missles and lauch terror attacks upon the people living in the areas.
not true...

Quote: so how come hezbollah doesnt want lebanease army in southern lebanon?
Quote: Ali, right after the cease fire that the Hez wanted along with the lebanese govt. there were numerous media stations all over the world that said the lebanese military was entering into areas in the southern areas of lebanon that they had not been allowed to enter in nearly 20 years.

because our army is weak and if it decides to enter war with israel... the israeli airforce will destroy its command centers and equipement in 10-15minutes.Without mentionning our army's best improved tank dates 1948 lol
so any face off with israel will cost lebanon its independacy.

on the other hand... hezbollah si an underground organisation... the (strong) israeli airforce did NOT succeed to destroy anything.... at all or kill any hezbollah leader at all.... not even decrease the number of rockets falling on israel every day... (it increased instead)

therefore until the army is ready.... hezbollah was defending the country.
why now?? of course thats wat u wanna ask right???
why let them deploy in the south now???

well its very simple.... because hezbollahs mission is very close to be ACCOMPLISHED and by accomplished i dont mean like Bush's accomplished in irak i mean real achievement of hezbollah demands and missions wich are:
1- the return of the lebanese prisonners.... ALL OF THEM! ---> will happen soon
2- the return of shebaa farms and kafarchouba hills.... ---> will happen soon also/ P.S it was supposed to happen after this war (israel accepted and teh usa also) but after thinking of it, they changed their minds because they dont wanna give hezbollah a victory... anyway as soon as they are convinced they will return it....
3- the equipement of the lebanese army with new weapons. (by anyone) ----> will happen or else hezbollah will stay so i can tell you it will happen as soon as israel is convinced its the only way to disarm hezbollah;)

Quote: Do you really expect the US to assist the lebanese govt with weapons? No flippin way buddy.
read again my post.... i never mentionned the USA
i dont care who will equip teh army even tho im convinced it will be the USA because its the only way to help baby israel. hehe
ya and by the way.... be cool man shill :? and if u mind im asking u kindly to stop insulting my people and government...
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the sane voice · Joined: 07 Sep 2006 Posts: 2512

ALi* wrote: Quote: **why doesnt hezbollah gives its weapons to the lebanease army?
it will at some point.... but at the right time
the right time??? read previous post of mine.

you didnt answered all my q but ok.the right time hu?so israel and us should do what the hezbollah can do now.very logical.infact if iran and syria care so much for lebanon they could give the lebaneas army weapons not to hezbollah do they?

ALi* · Joined: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 427 Location: Beirut

Quote: you didnt answered all my q but ok.the right time hu?so israel and us should do what the hezbollah can do now.very logical.infact if iran and syria care so much for lebanon they could give the lebaneas army weapons not to hezbollah do they?

man... lol
lebanon is NOT allowed to buy weapons from anyone.... noone is allowed to sell weapons to lebanon.
because he will become a threat to israel :?
if it was that simple.... dont u think we would have already done it???

the sane voice · Joined: 07 Sep 2006 Posts: 2512

ALi* wrote: Quote: you didnt answered all my q but ok.the right time hu?so israel and us should do what the hezbollah can do now.very logical.infact if iran and syria care so much for lebanon they could give the lebaneas army weapons not to hezbollah do they?

man... lol
lebanon is NOT allowed to buy weapons from anyone.... noone is allowed to sell weapons to lebanon.
because he will become a threat to israel :?
if it was that simple.... dont u think we would have already done it???
i wonder if you have a link to support this.
because if you cant sell weapons to lebanon you can sel it to group like hezbollah which you said is not a miltia?
all militias have to be disarmed you know.
and do you have a link to the 2000 agreement during idf retreat from lebanon?

lilwolf · Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 12031 Location: idaho

ALi* wrote: Quote: you didnt answered all my q but ok.the right time hu?so israel and us should do what the hezbollah can do now.very logical.infact if iran and syria care so much for lebanon they could give the lebaneas army weapons not to hezbollah do they?

man... lol
lebanon is NOT allowed to buy weapons from anyone.... noone is allowed to sell weapons to lebanon.
because he will become a threat to israel :?
if it was that simple.... dont u think we would have already done it???

But the pu**y hezbollah sure get a lot of weapons from Iran don't they?

ToonArmyIsComing · Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Posts: 5888 Location: Ontario

ALi* wrote: More 1.5 million people gathered in beirut to celebrate the divine victory over the terrorist state and to show full support for hezbollah.

Divine victory? Was Allah tired of murdering homosexuals that he decided that he has to go after Israeli soldiers? :roll:

ALi* · Joined: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 427 Location: Beirut

the sane voice wrote: ALi* wrote: Quote: you didnt answered all my q but ok.the right time hu?so israel and us should do what the hezbollah can do now.very logical.infact if iran and syria care so much for lebanon they could give the lebaneas army weapons not to hezbollah do they?

man... lol
lebanon is NOT allowed to buy weapons from anyone.... noone is allowed to sell weapons to lebanon.
because he will become a threat to israel :?
if it was that simple.... dont u think we would have already done it???
i wonder if you have a link to support this.
because if you cant sell weapons to lebanon you can sel it to group like hezbollah which you said is not a miltia?
all militias have to be disarmed you know.
and do you have a link to the 2000 agreement during idf retreat from lebanon?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Grapes_of_Wrath
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Accountability
http://ec.europa.eu/external_relations/lebanon/intro/index.htm
http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/lebanon/001207.htm
http://www.nato-pa.int/archivedpub/trip/at84gsm005-lebanon.asp

slitedeviance · Joined: 02 Sep 2006 Posts: 1507

lilwolf wrote: But the pu**y hezbollah sure get a lot of weapons from Iran don't they?

Wonder where the pu**y Israelis get theirs?

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slitedeviance · Joined: 02 Sep 2006 Posts: 1507

ToonArmyIsComing wrote: Divine victory? Was Allah tired of murdering homosexuals that he decided that he has to go after Israeli soldiers? :roll:

So the person responsible for the death of an Israeli soldier is God? Man, that must really really p*ss off the Israelis seeing as it's their God as well!

So what, does that mean they're not the chosen people? Or did God just get a bit bored?

ALi* · Joined: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 427 Location: Beirut

or is it that ur just anti-religious and its part of ur non-sens propaganda ??!..

Radovan · Joined: 11 Jun 2004 Posts: 60

I wonder when will this shiite stupidty stop. Lebanon is becoming a second Iraq, an iranian hostage.

Another issue...stop exaggerating and make it sensational like a typical arab from middle east ..there were no 1.5 milion at that demosntration, there couldn't be...a total of 150000 sq mr can accommodate onyy 450, 000 people. Give it another 50, 000 in the surroundings...

Pebble · Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 1143

the sane voice wrote: Pebble wrote: the sane voice wrote: hezbollah "won" this war.from now on the terror group hezbollah will resort to more violence. waht should israel do now?

Recognise that, yet again, massive military response has failed to solve the issue?
i recognize hezbollah think he won this war.there was no massive military response.it was a military response designated so it could cripple hezbollah and to make israel still look good in the eyes of the world.

The failure of the military response had absolutely nothing to do with how Israel wishes to be portrayed in the world.

Quote: but israel didnt achieved it goals and is now perceived as a"baby killer".
so next time that wont be an issue.

So next time you will inflict more damage? How long will it take you to see that you do not defeat these kind of people by massive retaliation?

the sane voice · Joined: 07 Sep 2006 Posts: 2512

Pebble wrote:
The failure of the military response had absolutely nothing to do with how Israel wishes to be portrayed in the world.
you fuoght in idf?

Quote: So next time you will inflict more damage? How long will it take you to see that you do not defeat these kind of people by massive retaliation?

how do you defeat people who say they want to kill you?

slitedeviance · Joined: 02 Sep 2006 Posts: 1507

the sane voice wrote: how do you defeat people who say they want to kill you?

Kill their children. Then there shall be no future generation to support their views and continue the legacy. That is the most effective way of fighting an enemy.

Interestingly enough, that's sort of an Al-Qaeda POV. Y'know, we'll kill you and your children and your culture.

the sane voice · Joined: 07 Sep 2006 Posts: 2512

slitedeviance wrote:
Kill their children.
what r you talking about?

Varyag · Joined: 17 Aug 2006 Posts: 397 Location: Melos

A 1:5 combat ratio against the IDF, Hezbollah calls that a victory :lol: whats defeat, killing each hezbollah member twice :lol:

slitedeviance · Joined: 02 Sep 2006 Posts: 1507

the sane voice wrote: slitedeviance wrote:
Kill their children.
what r you talking about?

Deny the next generation the chance to grow up and become involved in the situation. Deprive the country of their next generation of workers, politicians and economists. Deny them the chance to develop past where they already are.

That's one way of doing it.