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[flamboyant]

Political Crossfire - U.S. Government Conspirators???

Yesterday, we had a visitor to the forum who provided this chilling account of his own personal experience with U.S. Government mind-control:

captain133 wrote: It was either the NSA or counter terrorism agency. They can used satellites to read your thoughts. They did it to me. They followed me around for four months torturing me with this satellite. They burned my brain on several occasions. They burned out my grey matter closing up my mental vision. How do I report this and sue.

It only took 21 minutes for the "moderators" to lock the thread and supress the truth.

Who are these moderators and what's their real agenda? How many more posts have simply wound up "missing"?

Who sponsors this site? Are the rumors true that the same people who funded ABC's "Path to 9/11" series are actually the same people funding this forum?

Finally, how obvious is it to the rest of us that many of the conspiracy theorists' arguments here are so weak and utterly lame because these members have been planted by the PCF-USGov alliance in order to discredit the entire "truth out" movement?

[psholtz]

I'll hazard a guess that this thread isn't going to last much longer than captain 133's.. :lol:

[Nathyn]

YES, PCF MODS!! Tell us THE TRUTH!!! :x

[NAB]

psholtz wrote: I'll hazard a guess that this thread isn't going to last much longer than captain 133's.. :lol:

Finally a "theory" that you and I can completely agree on. :wink:

[flamboyant]

If the moderators do decide to lock this thread, I'm afraid some of our suspicions about Political Crossfire will have been confirmed.

[johnflesh]

I am not sure how this forum's policy is set to deal with issues, stories, or posts that are outside the political spectrum, which is what I thought Alt Theories forum was for, yet it has more locks than the panama canal. (tee hee hee)

Seriously though, they do lock a lot of threads here without so much as an exploration into the subject. I certainly would not like it if there was some certain censorship in these cases as I have seen completely ridiculous threads with large amounts of name calling left unlocked.

Ultimatly it is their show though so I'd just discuss all the locked subjects on a less censored website.

Calling them out won't help anything though.

[Wizard From Oz]

Ha ha - you guys make me laugh - I love it...... I really do :lol:

[lilwolf]

flamboyant wrote: Political Crossfire - U.S. Government Conspirators???

Yesterday, we had a visitor to the forum who provided this chilling account of his own personal experience with U.S. Government mind-control:

captain133 wrote: It was either the NSA or counter terrorism agency. They can used satellites to read your thoughts. They did it to me. They followed me around for four months torturing me with this satellite. They burned my brain on several occasions. They burned out my grey matter closing up my mental vision. How do I report this and sue.

It only took 21 minutes for the "moderators" to lock the thread and supress the truth.

Who are these moderators and what's their real agenda? How many more posts have simply wound up "missing"?

Who sponsors this site? Are the rumors true that the same people who funded ABC's "Path to 9/11" series are actually the same people funding this forum?

Finally, how obvious is it to the rest of us that many of the conspiracy theorists' arguments here are so weak and utterly lame because these members have been planted by the PCF-USGov alliance in order to discredit the entire "truth out" movement?


Pretty damned obvious that the guy was about 5 cans short of a six pack of intelligence. Surely you don't but into the crap he was spewing do you?

I have a cousin that is a nut and had been saying the same thing and she ended uop in a nut house.
There ain't no damn conspiracy here and probably never was or will be. :lol: :lol: :roll:

[Wizard From Oz]

Quote: Pretty damned obvious that the guy was about 5 cans short of a six pack of intelligence. Surely you don't but into the crap he was spewing do you?


I am not sure I would be so harsh - When I read the post, my thoughts where there is some underlying medical issue here. Many people who have these episodes are ill rather than lacking in intelligence.

[Norrin Radd]

Most of the locked threads on this forum were troll threads, which were started for the purpose of ticking people off. THat is why they were locked.

If a thread is started which looks honestly at a topic, it will likely not be locked.

Since there are a lot of closed minded people here who love letting the government tell them what to think and who's lives are so pathetic that they feel the need to ridicule others in order to feel superior, the mods have locked some threads.

Can any of you people tell me about the government mind control experiments which have been admitted to?

If you go to the following link, you will find the follwoing resources........

http://www.gpc.edu/~shale/humanities/composition/assignments/experiment/lsd.html



Resources on Drug Experimentation and Related Mind Control Experiments by the U.S. Government
General
Books and Excerpts from Books

* Acid Dreams. The Complete Social History of LSD: The CIA, the Sixties, and Beyond Sample readings, documents, timeline, author information for the book by Martin A. Lee and Bruce Shlain. See also the detailed table of contents: The Trip Guide
* LSD, The CIA, and Your Brain more excerpts from Acid Dreams, from Lycaeum Drug Archives
* The Search for the Manchurian Candidate The CIA and Mind Control, by John Marks
* Chapters from The Last Circle by Carol Marshall (details on the CIA involvement in MKULTRA)
o Chapter 15 part 1
o Chapter 15 part 2
o Chapter 15 part 3
* Bluebird Description of Dr. Colin A. Ross's forthcoming book on Project Bluebird (MKULTRA)

Web Sites and Links

* Pages from from Leading Edge International
o The 1994 Rockefeller Report Examining Biological Experimentation on U.S. Military
o Psychosocial Manipulation of Humans
* Mind Control from Ufomind Paranormal Research Index. See also their page CIA Interest in Mind Control

MKULTRA and Related Government Mind Control Experiments
Historical Background

* Mind Control from the Napa Sentinel, 1991, by Harry V. Martin and David Caul. Descriptions of experiments, based on senate hearings, declassified documents, news stories, and other sources
* History of MK-ULTRA. CIA program on Mind Control from Deep Black Magic: Government Research into E.S.P. and Mind Control by Thomas Porter
* Dossier on MKULTRA from Parascope.
* Mind Control and MK-ULTRA by Richard G. Gall
* Pages from Coup d'etat in America, a website about CIA and other involvement in the Kennedy assassination
o LSD and the CIA: MKULTRA
o Dr. Sidney Gottlieb
* Imperialism CIA Style by Jim Huck. Well-researched overview of CIA involvement in MKULTRA, Project Paperclip, and other operations; includes works cited page.
* Transcript of an interview with Dr. Colin A. Ross, by Wayne Morris, radio station CKLN, Toronto
* Dr. West Hits the Airwaves from Parascope. Describes career of "Dr. Louis Jolyon 'Jolly' West, the psychiatrist notorious for his participation in CIA mind control experiments" as a commentator on psychiatric matters on KCAL television in Los Angeles.
* Excerpt from The High and the Mighty: JFK, MPM, LSD and the CIA by G. J. Krupey. From Peter Meyer's Serendepity site. See also his CIA and CIA links pages
* Probable Government Involvement in Parapsychological and Paranormal Research by Eric Hiemstadt; well-researched, contains information from an interview with a government contractor who worked under MKULTRA
* Secrecy and Accountability in U.S. Intelligence by Steven Aftergood. From the Federation of American Scientists. Includes comments on MKULTRA
* Le fantasme de la conspiration Background (in French) on U.S. government mind control experiments, from LEBE (Les entites biologique extraterrestres)

Web Sites and Links

* Unofficial Link Page for MK-ULTRA from Ufomind Paranormal Research Index
* "North America's Holocaust by Eleanor White. Includes victim list and links to related files on that site. See also her MKULTRA documentation index

MKULTRA and Other Mind Control Experiments in Canada

* Illegal CIA Mind Control and Radiation experiments in Canada from Jeff Koftinoff's Canadian Conspiracy Pages
* Dr. Ewen Cameron: Playhouse of Horrors by Jim Bronskill, The Ottawa Citizen and the Hamilton Spectator, September 13, 1997, republished by ACHES-MC
* Dr. Cameron experiments on Canadian people (Project MKULTRA) by Martti Koski
* Unofficial Link Page for Ewen Cameron from Ufomind Paranormal Research Index

Documents

* Abstracts of research on low-dose experiments with LSD from the Lycaeum Drug Archives
* MKULTRA Documents from Parascope
* List of MKULTRA Unclassified Documents (including subprojects) from Ritual Abuse, Ritual Crime and Healing
* Summary of Agency Records Retrieval Interim Report of the Advisory Committee on Human Radiation Experiments. The first Section describes CIA involvement in MKULTRA and related projects
o the same file from PinkNoise and Earthops

Other Mind Control Resources
Historical Background

* Doc Hambone's Archives
* What Is Mind Control from F.A.C.T.net
* The Influencing Machine by Mike Coyle. A history of beliefs about mind control; contains references to MKULTRA. Reproduced from MindNet, vol. 1 no. 90.
* Mankind Research Unlimited from the Doc Hambone Web
* A Primer on Hypnosis and Mind Control by Darrell Bross
* Retin-A's Wrinkled Past from Penn History Review - Spring 1997. Describes CIA-sponsored mind control and other experiments performed on prisoners at Holmesburg Prison by University of Pennsylvania researcher Dr. Albert Kligman

Experiments Using Microwave Radiation

* Electromagnetics and the Mind by Greg Harrison
* Mind Control in the 90's by David Guyatt, from Fortean Times
* Microwaves in the UK by Leigh Neville, from Fortean Times
* Magnetic waves and mind control transcript from Australian Broadcasting Corporation radio program The Health Report: Norman Swann interviews Graham Harding, Professor of Clinical Neurophysiology at Aston University in Birmingham.
* Bibliography on the Psychoactivity of Electromagnetic Fields by Robert C. Beck and Eldon A. Byrd. From 21st Link; originally appeared in Archaeus 4 (1986): 54-77.

Web Sites and Links

* The Mind Control Forum by Ed Light. Many resources and articles; includes interviews with victims.
* Citizens Against Human Rights Abuse "formed by a group of victims of alleged nonconsensual human experimentation involving electromagnetic and neurological weapon testing programs by the U.S. and other governments." Includes many articles by Cheryl Welsh on Brainwave and other experiments, and coverage of C.A.H.R.A.'s request to have the National Bioethics Advisory Commission investigate these experiments.
* Freedom of Thought Foundation maintained by Walter Bowart. Sections include News, Operation Mind Control, Bibliography, Membership information, and Links
* ACHES-MC Advocacy Committee for Human Experimentation Survivors - Mind Control.
* More than Conquerors. A forum for "survivors of Satanic Ritual Abuse, Ritual Trauma, Mind Control, and/or those with a Dissociative Condition such as MPD/DID"

Documents

* Mankind Research Unlimited: The CIA's Psychic Warfare from Coup d'etat in America. Contains documents and lists of scientists

Mailing Lists

* mindcontrol-l Listserv info page from Liszt

Government Research on ESP

* The Laboratories for Fundamental Research link to Cognitive Sciences Laboratory, " the home of the US Government-sponsored research into Extra Sensory Perception (ESP) since 1985."

MORE..........

A declassified CIA document dated 7 Jan 1953 [1] describes the experimental creation of multiple personality in two 19-year old girls. “These subjects have clearly demonstrated that they can pass from a fully awake state to a deep H [hypnotic] controlled state by telephone, by receiving written matter, or by the use of code, signal, or words, and that control of those hypnotized can be passed from one individual to another without great difficulty. It has also been shown by experimentation with these girls that they can act as unwilling couriers for information purposes.” BB 32

A CIA document dated 10 Feb 1954 [4] describes an experiment on the creation of unsuspecting assassins: “Miss [whited out] was instructed (having expressed a fear of firearms) that she would use every method at her disposal to awaken Miss [whited out] (now in a deep hypnotic sleep). Failing this, she would pick up a pistol and fire it at Miss [whited out]. She was instructed that she would not hesitate to “kill” [whited out]. Miss [whited out] carried out these suggestions including firing the (unloaded) gun at [whited out] and then proceeded to fall into a deep sleep. After proper suggestions were made, both were awakened. Miss [whited out] expressed absolute denial that the foregoing sequence had happened.” BB 36, 37

http://www.wanttoknow.info/mindcontrol

History Channel-Mind Control: America's Secret War (50 minutes)
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13845.htm

This powerful History Channel documentary reveals how for decades,
top secret government projects worked virtually non-stop to perfect
means of controlling the human mind. Though for many years the
government denied that these projects even existed, the details have
long been preserved in thousands of pages of now declassified
government documents reluctantly released through the Freedom of
Information Act. LSD and electroshock therapy in huge doses given to
unsuspecting citizens are only a part of the unbelievable program
revealed by these declassified documents.

Mind Control blows the lid off years of chilling experiments, drawing
on the above-mentioned declassified documents and interviews with
some of the victims. Hear from John Marks, the author of In Search of
the Manchurian Candidate, who originally broke the story of the CIA's
abuses by unraveling the mysteries contained in the declassified
documents. Learn how many of the most important records pertaining to
the mind control experiments were destroyed by the director of the
CIA in an attempt to prevent the details from ever being known.

The projects involved brutal, at times lethal experiments on
thousands of unsuspecting citizens in direct defiance of law, all
ethical codes, and basic human rights. Interviews with top
psychiatrists, lawyers, and victims send chills up the spine. U.S.
intelligence agencies spent millions on these mind control projects
with a goal of creating programmable human spies. A former head of
the American Psychiatric Association, Dr. Ewen Cameron, is one of
many highly respected doctors who erased the personalities of
thousands of unsuspecting victims, while many in the profession
simply turned a blind eye.

Among the captivating interviews presented, you will hear from Dr.
Cameron's patient Linda McDonald, whose past was completely erased by
a brainwashing experiment. Linda describes how at age 25 she was
placed on a psychiatric ward and subjected to horrific shock and drug
treatments which completely erased her mind and brought her back to
being the mental age of an infant. She, along with many other victims
of these highly unethical programs eventually won a significant
lawsuit against the U.S. government for the crimes committed against
her by one of the most respected doctors of psychiatry in the world.

http://vancouver.indymedia.org/?q=node/2261

Mind Control : America's Secret War

U.S. intelligence agencies spent millions on top-secret mind control projects with a goal of creating totally dependable, programmable human robots. The projects involved brutal, often terminal experiments on thousands of unwitting citizens in direct defiance of law, all ethical codes, and the most basic human rights. We talk to author John Marks, who broke the story of the CIA's experiments known as MK-ULTRA and a woman whose past was erased by a brainwashing experiment.

Produced and broadcast by the History Channel - 07/04/06 Runtime 50 Minutes

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so why has the government spent millions of dollars and spent enormous effort on mind control experiments?

Why?

While the original poster probably was a little paranoid and his story is likely false, the closed mindedness which spurred this thread is really unbelievable. The government has been shown to have committed many mind control experiemnts, yet there are still a large number of brainwashed morons who don't even know about these experiments and who do not believe that anything learned from these experiemnts might have been put to use.

If the government wasn't planning on using any of this information, then why did they bother doing the experiments?

Some people will never, ever, flipping get it.

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

[Norrin Radd]

BTW, YOU CAN WATCH THE VIDEO FROM THE HISTORY CHANNEL FOR FREE.....

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13845.htm

More reading for anyone who is not a sheeple.

http://www.angelfire.com/or/mctrl/harrison.html

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/nonconsensual_mindcontrol.htm

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/03/335216.shtml

More Links
On secret government, mind control, nonlethal weapons, the press, etc.



* Here is a recent U.S. News article, by Douglas Pasternak, on the newest generation of weapons in development. It is from July 1997, and is titled ``Wonder Weapons: The Pentagon's quest for nonlethal arms is amazing. But is it smart?'' (As you read it, remember how long the Stealth Bomber did not officially exist, and how spy agencies were using microwaves -- as reported, at least, against embassies -- in the '60s and '70s.) An excerpt:

``By using very low frequency electromagnetic radiation -- the waves way below radio frequencies on the electromagnetic spectrum -- he [Eldon Byrd] found he could induce the brain to release behavior-regulating chemicals. `We could put animals into a stupor,' he says, by hitting them with these frequencies. `We got chick brains -- in vitro -- to dump 80 percent of the natural opioids in their brains,' Byrd says. He even ran a small project that used magnetic fields to cause certain brain cells in rats to release histamine. In humans, this would cause instant flulike symptoms and produce nausea. `These fields were extremely weak. They were undetectable,' says Byrd. `The effects were nonlethal and reversible. You could disable a person temporarily,' Byrd hypothesizes. `It [would have been] like a stun gun.'

``Byrd never tested any of his hardware in the field, and his program, scheduled for four years, apparently was closed down after two, he says. `The work was really outstanding,' he grumbles. `We would have had a weapon in one year.' Byrd says he was told his work would be unclassified, `unless it works.' Because it worked, he suspects that the program `went black.' Other scientists tell similar tales of research on electromagnetic radiation turning top secret once successful results were achieved. There are clues that such work is continuing. In 1995, the annual meeting of four-star U.S. Air Force generals -- called CORONA -- reviewed more than 1,000 potential projects. One was called `Put the Enemy to Sleep/Keep the Enemy From Sleeping.' It called for exploring `acoustics,' `microwaves', and `brain-wave manipulation' to alter sleep patterns. It was one of only three projects approved for initial investigation.''

* This is an article by David G. Guyatt titled, ``Some Aspects of Anti-Personnel Electromagnetic Weapons,'' which was prepared for the recent International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) Symposium on the medical profession and the the effects of weapons. The article is available in in Microsoft Word (.doc) format and in rich text format (.rtf) . These items, and several others on this page, were found on the Deep Times News Service server.

An html version of this paper can be found at ParaScope. (ParaScope also has CIA interrogation manuals, and some additional EM weapons and mind control information. Try the search feature.)

* This is a speech by Robert Parry, titled ``Fooling America,'' to the group Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting (FAIR). It is about covert activity in Central America, including the Iran-Contra affair, and the official attempts to cover up what had actually happened. It says a lot about how the ``free press'' really works. One of my favorite excerpts:

``...the way they were able to do it was essentially this acceptance in Washington of an absolutely phony reality, one which is accepted in sort of a consensus way ... there may be disagreements on some points -- but there is a general consensus of the world that is brought to bear, and often it is in absolute contradiction to the real world. It is a false reality -- it's a Washington reality.''

Robert Parry is currently with the Consortium for Independent Journalism.

* Here is an article about the newsgroup alt.politics.org.cia and some of the recent goings-on there.

* Do you believe the press is the watchdog for our liberties? That if ordinary citizens were being horribly abused by their government, then news reporters, editors, and publishers would welcome the opportunity to expose the wrongdoing and report the story? These are the introductory paragraphs to an article titled ``The Radiation Story No One Would Touch,'' by Geoffrey Sea. It appears in the Columbia Journalism Review, March/April 1994.

``Suddenly, at the close of 1993, the public was bombarded with `news' about the feeding of radioactive substances to pregnant women and mentally retarded students, about the unethical irradiation of workers, soldiers, mental patients, and prison inmates, and about the government's own internal fears that those experiments had `a little of the Buchenwald touch.' But the story that appeared in The Albuquerque Tribune (circulation: 35,000) on November 15-17, and was then projected into national headlines by the forthright admissions and initiatives of Secretary of Energy Hazel O'Leary, was hardly new.

``By 1984, activists and researchers across the country were systematically investigating the human experimentation program and attempting to bring it to public attention. By 1986, documentation of the program was massive, solid, and publicly available.

``I am among those who persistently tried to get national media coverage of this outrageous example of government wrongdoing. To say the media were reluctant to listen would be an understatement. The fact is that, for more than a decade, documentation was ignored and facts were misreported.''

The article goes on to list the chronology of this story no one would touch (and some of the truly outrageous abuses against American citizens that were ignored). Perhaps most shocking from the journalistic side is that the abuses were still ignored or misreported after 1986 when the House Subcommittee on Energy Conservation and Power issued a report listing all the abuses which were treated, years later, as new revelations. (Needless to say, the victims were not notified either. Some found out years later. Other radiation experiments which occurred after 1974 are still secret.)

This story was selected as one of the 10 most under-reported news stories of 1994 by Project Censored, along with a document indicating that secrecy was invoked by the government to prevent possible lawsuits and ``adverse effect on public opinion.''

* In the introduction to an article titled, ``Army Planning a Return to Garden Plot-Style Domestic Spying?,'' the Sources Briefings electronic journal, volume 2, issue 1, reports that the Army is secretly seeking authorization to return to domestic spying against American citizens. According to this article, the Army once kept ``dossiers'' on 200,000 ordinary citizens, and ``had allowed thousands of its intelligence agents to spy on virtually anyone who exercised his or her constitutional right to dissent and challenge public policies...''

The Johnson administration utilized Army intelligence to spy on and disrupt anti-war protesters and other ``dissidents.'' An excerpt from V. Marchetti and J. Marks' book The CIA and the Cult of Intelligence, 1974:

``... Literal legal justification probably was not the sole reason why Army intelligence was assigned as the main instrument with which to attack the domestic targets; size was another consideration. Neither the CIA nor the FBI had the manpower for an all-out clandestine offensive against the radicals. Nor did either have available large numbers of young intelligence personnel who could actually penetrate the movement. But Army intelligence soon blundered and its domestic surveillance programs were exposed in January 1970 by ex-agent Christopher Pyle, writing in the Washington Monthly. During the following year the military services were forced to withdraw from their massive attack against domestic dissidents; the field was once again left to the `professionals' -- the FBI and the CIA.''

Marchetti and Marks' book also reports that the CIA secretly provided training to 14 New York City policemen, as well as providing ``training'' to officers in other localities. The book describes the Domestic Operations Division (DOD) of the CIA as one of that agency's most secretive divisions. Among its operations were espionage programs against foreign students.

The CIA even aided the White House ``plumbers'' in their break-ins (p. 218). Watergate is often trumpeted as proof that the press will expose government wrongdoing and can even bring down an administration. What it really shows is that an organization as powerful as the Democratic National Committee, along with national newspapers, could just barely manage to fight back against covert attacks from a truly corrupt administration. One is tempted to view the post-Watergate investigations into the CIA's abuses as simply political payback.

* A research paper titled, ``Information Operations: A New War-Fighting Capability'' presented to the Air Force's 2025 project. This was originally from the Air Force's Air University web page, and is mirrored on the Federation of American Scientists' pages. In particular, look at chapter 4 on implanted microscopic chips.

* The Mind Control Forum contains a wide variety of information about mind control, including many victims' stories. Use your discretion, as the items there are unfiltered, but much of it is excellent. Some highlights include the CKLN-FM Mind Control Series from Toronto, and a transcript from a CNN Special Assignment show, from 1985, on electromagnetic weapons.

* This is a victim's account that I think is particularly well-written. It is by Mr. David Fratus, and apparently appeared on Usenet in 1988. In it, he describes being experimented on and tortured while in a Utah prison. I do not know Mr. Fratus or have any confirmation of these events, but I am inclined to believe it. He describes quite well the horror and outrage at discovering that his very mind has been violated, and the attitudes of the torturers. This is his story, which is located at Maarti Koski's site in Finland.

(I probably do not need to mention it, but one of the objectives of the secret experimenters -- and bullies in general -- is to turn victims against each other. They also seek to turn potential supporters against the victims. Whether someone has suffered less or more under the system is not really the point, nor is the ``private'' life of the victim. The torturers are the culprits. They try to get people -- even some of their own victims -- to buy into their torture-table ``extractions,'' rumormongering, voyeurism, and character assassinations. But anything which that poison touches is tainted. Stockholm syndrome is something to watch out for.)

* Here is a link to a page with much information about the CIA, particularly its many abuses. Among other things it focuses on drugrunning, assassination programs, and the buying and influencing of journalists. (It also has some interesting articles about CIA involvement in Australia.) This site is mirrored in Switzerland and Australia.

There is a good article at this site about Operation Chaos, the CIA's long-running, illegal domestic surveillance program, with a sidebar on campus surveillance.

* This is an article titled, ``Snow Job: The Establishment's Papers Do Damage Control for the CIA,'' by the group Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting (FAIR). It describes the way mainstream newspapers acted to minimize and dismiss charges, by the San Jose Mercury News, of CIA involvement in the crack trade. Sidebars include ``That Delusional Mindset,'' and ``Our Man at the Post.'' A brief excerpt:

``... In 1988, Post owner Katharine Graham, Phil's widow, gave a speech at the CIA's Langley, Va. headquarters. `We live in a dirty and dangerous world,' Graham told agency leaders (Regardie's magazine, 1/90). `There are some things the general public does not need to know and shouldn't. I believe democracy flourishes when the government can take legitimate steps to keep its secrets and when the press can decide whether to print what it knows.'

``Readers, in turn, can decide how much faith to put in news outlets whose owners embrace such a philosophy.''

(Apparently secret human experimentation on American citizens is another one of the things the general public ``does not need to know.'' Is democracy ``flourishing'' for the victims of these domestic atrocities?) This essay also appears in the book Wizards of Media Oz: Behind the Curtain of Mainstream News by Norman Soloman and Jeff Cohen (Common Courage Press).

* An article from the Ottawa Citizen, Sept. 13, 1997, titled, ``MIND GAMES: Another woman comes forward to claim the CIA used her as a guinea pig in hideous experiments.'' The title pretty well sums it up. Some excerpts:

``Alan Scheflin [a law professor and researcher] doubts the promises of further disclosure will amount to much. After several boxes of CIA documents were released under the U.S. Freedom of Information Act in the 1970's, the flow slowed to a trickle. `I can't prove, without having the documents available, that what anybody is telling me, or part of what someone is telling me, is true or not,' said Mr. Scheflin. `But I can tell you that it's not out of the realm of possibility. And if it's not true, it will be true of someone else who has come forward.' Psychiatrist Colin Ross, a specialist in multiple identity disorders, has heard numerous stories of government experimentation from patients since moving to Texas from Canada six years ago. `It's really hard to tell how much of it is real. On the other hand, there's all this documentation that a tremendous amount of this stuff did go on. So the stories aren't impossible either.'

``Dr. Ross recently completed a manuscript based on the countless hours he has spent in libraries and archives uncovering information about government experiments on people and other unconventional research conducted by doctors and institutes across North America. Evidence that researchers have exposed children to LSD doses, radiation and other potentially harmful substances leads him to believe mind-control experimentation could also have occurred. `All kinds of unbelievable stuff has in fact been done to kids.' Mr. Scheflin notes that 149 projects involved work with children at juvenile facilities, but the records disclosed to date do not paint a complete picture.''

``Ms. Wolf [a New Orleans therapist] believes the truth about child experiments is slowly emerging, but wants to stall the disclosure as long as possible because officials realize the news will be met with outrage. `People will be very angry that this was done to children by the government.' ''

(I found this article on the MINDCONTROL-L Mind Control and Psyops Mailing List. Look at the end of the article for info on subscribing, and for the web address of the list archive.)

* In The Controllers, Martin Cannon argues that ``alien abductions'' might actually be a cover for government mind control and experimentation. This article contains a great deal of documented research about mind control technology, especially brain implants. For example:

``Perhaps the most disturbing wanderer into this mind-field is Joseph A. Meyer, of the National Security Agency, the most formidable and secretive component of America's national security complex. Meyer has proposed implanting roughly half of all Americans arrested -- not necessarily convicted -- of any crime; the numbers of `subscribers' (his euphemism) would run into the tens of millions. `Subscribers' could be monitored continually by computer wherever they went. Meyer, who has carefully worked out the economics of his mass-implantation system, asserts that taxpayer liability should be reduced by forcing subscribers to `rent' the implant from the State. Implants are cheaper and more efficient than police, Meyer suggests, since the call to crime is relentless for the poor `urban dweller' -- who, this spook-scientist admits in a surprisingly candid aside, is fundamentally unnecessary to a post-industrial economy. `Urban dweller' may be another of Meyer's euphemisms: He uses New York's Harlem as his model community in working out the details of his mind-management system.44''

This particular section is referenced to 44. Scheflin and Opton, The Mind Manipulators, 351-353; Tackwood, The Glass House Tapes, 228. Other sections, for example, discuss experiments in wiring up cats so their ears act as microphones to a loudspeaker in another room.

* The Metro magazine, from the Santa Clara Valley, has an article in its Dec 12-18, 1996 issue about implanted microchip devices. It is by Michael Mechanic and is titled ``Beastly Implants.'' The article describes the recent popularity of pet implants and suggestions they could be placed in children. Mechanic reports that a plastic surgeon in Florida got a patent in 1987 for an implantable tracking device for humans. It runs on long-lasting, externally rechargable batteries and can be used to track a person's location via cellular phone towers or helicopters.

The article also touches on some of the marketing techniques that are being used to sell implanted chips. These techniques will likely be used to try to justify the chips already implanted in unknowing people. Attempts to blur the notion of consent, such as in the difference between consensual sex and rape, will also likely occur with regard to the devices implanted in unknowing subjects. Recall that in Orwell's 1984 one of the most repressive aspects of Big Brother surveillance was that it could not be turned off.

Demonizing the victims is another technique that will be used to ``justify'' the unjustifiable. How would your life look if you had been under 24-hour harassment and thought surveillance (and/or other invasive surveillance) for years, and your worst enemy got to edit this down to ``support'' any picture he wanted to paint about you? Remember, you do not get a bit of due process, you cannot face your accuser or hear the charges against you, and the audience for this farce may well be too stupid or caught up in voyeurism to understand what is really going on.

* In their book Angels Don't Play This HAARP, Jeane Manning and Nick Begich have a chapter on ``nonlethal'' weapons. (More info on the HAARP project, and its relation to nonlethal weapons, can be found on several other web sites.) In this chapter, Manning and Begich present some startling excerpts from government publications.

One publication they reference is the Radiofrequency Radiation Dosimetry Handbook, United States Air Force School of Aerospace Medicine, Brooks Air Force Base, Texas, October 1986. This is a compendium of information about medical RF effects, useful in designing weapons. (A principal reviewer and contributor, Dr. H.P. Schwan, is a Project Paperclip scientist from Nazi laboratories.)

The following are excerpts from the Final Report On Biotechnology Reaearch Requirements For Aeronautical Systems Through the Year 2000, Volumes I and II, Southwest Research Institute, San Antonio, Texas, pg. 181-188. Note the references to ``interrogating'' mental functioning, i.e., reading thoughts.

``... Experience with electroshock therapy, RFR [radiofrequency radiation] experiments, and the increasing understanding of the brain as an electrically mediated organ suggest the serious probability that impressed electromagnetic fields can be disruptive of purposeful behavior and may be capable of directing and/or interrogating such behavior. Further, the passage of approximately 100 milliamperes through the myocardium can lead to cardiac standstill and death, again pointing to a speed-of-light weapons effect.''

``... While initial attention should be toward degradation of human performance through thermal loading and electromagnetic field effects, subsequent work should address the possibilities of directing and interrogating mental functioning, using externally applied fields within the possibility of a revolutionary capability to defend against hostile actions, and to collect intelligence data prior to conflict onset.''

Another document is Department of Defense Directive, Policy for Non-Lethal Weapons, Office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense, Draft, July 21, 1994. This is the draft of a policy intended to take effect in January of 1995. It describes using non-lethal weapons against the government's domestic ``adversaries:''

``The term `adversary' is used above in its broadest sense, including those who are not declared enemies but who are engaged in activities we wish to stop. This policy does not preclude legally authorized domestic use of the nonlethal weapons by United States military forces in support of law enforcement.''

This sounds like a prescription for an American dirty war using secret, deniable technology.

Manning and Begich also describe (p. 162) a document by a Council on Foreign Relations task force, from 1995, that discusses using these weapons against [people labeled as] terrorists and drug traffickers. It recommends that these weapons be used secretly, so the victims do not know where the attack is from, or if there even is an attack. [How was this strategy tested and developed?] This is a policy recommendation for extrajudicial torture. If they would put that in an open document, what other ideas were going around behind the veil of secrecy? Judge, jury, and executioner: Did you vote for that?

* The U.S. Patent Office has a very nice web page, which allows for online patent searches. For example, searching on ``implantable'' and ``tracking'' returns the patent:

Personal tracking and recovery system, patent number 5,629,678, filed Jan. 10, 1995

Apparatus for tracking and recovering humans utilizes an implantable transceiver incorporating a power supply and actuation system allowing the unit to remain implanted and functional for years without maintenance. The implanted transmitter may be remotely actuated, or actuated by the implantee. Power for the remote-activated receiver is generated electromechanically through the movement of body muscle. The device is small enough to be implanted in a child, facilitating use as a safeguard against kidnapping, and has a transmission range which also makes it suitable for wilderness sporting activities. A novel biological monitoring feature allows the device to be used to facilitate prompt medical dispatch in the event of heart attack or similar medical emergency. A novel sensation-feedback feature allows the implantee to control and actuate the device with certainty.

There are also patents, for example, for devices to project a voice spoken into a microphone into a subject's head via microwaves. These are open patents, not ones that got slapped with a secrecy order. Here is a page listing many mind-control-related patents, from the Leading Edge Research Group. Remember when these devices ``did not exist,'' and the ``authorities'' who assured us that those who claimed otherwise were kooks? What will they tell us next?

http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~alb/misc/moreMindLinks.html

[The Comrade]

the alternate theories forum has become a second lounge.




it's like double the fun!

[Norrin Radd]

The Comrade wrote: the alternate theories forum has become a second lounge.




it's like double the fun!

Yes, there are many people who like to make fun of topics which have reulsted in the death of innocent Americans by the US government.

Fun.

What would really be fun is if you dad was named Frank Olson.

[The Comrade]

Norrin Radd wrote: The Comrade wrote: the alternate theories forum has become a second lounge.




it's like double the fun!

Yes, there are many people who like to make fun of topics which have reulsted in the death of innocent Americans by the US government.

Fun.

What would really be fun is if you dad was named Frank Olson.

tin foil hats are also fun.

[Norrin Radd]

The Comrade wrote: Norrin Radd wrote: The Comrade wrote: the alternate theories forum has become a second lounge.




it's like double the fun!

Yes, there are many people who like to make fun of topics which have reulsted in the death of innocent Americans by the US government.

Fun.

What would really be fun is if you dad was named Frank Olson.

tin foil hats are also fun.

I wouldn't know, but hey, I forgot you are not an American, so i don't expect you to know about our history, even though you probably know more about our history than many Americans do.

[Fishstyx]

I just spit my iced tea all over my screen. The Alternative Theories section could easily be turned into a TV show, something mimicking Talk Soup on E!.

[agentkgb]

The Comrade wrote: Norrin Radd wrote: The Comrade wrote: the alternate theories forum has become a second lounge.




it's like double the fun!

Yes, there are many people who like to make fun of topics which have reulsted in the death of innocent Americans by the US government.

Fun.

What would really be fun is if you dad was named Frank Olson.

tin foil hats are also fun.
Not to mention stylish.

[flamboyant]

The snide remarks and clever jibes at those of us who understand the need for tin foil hats are very much unappreciated.

Consider yourselves reported.