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DSwain
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| Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 4:42 pm Post subject: Ming's speech to the LibDems |
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/5365164.stm
I've only caught excerpts from his speech but it appeared to be 'workmanlike'. But I think the talk of substance over style takes a beating with the opening montage of 'Ming - A Life' with its "high-energy music". |
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bob.appleyard
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| Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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| His suggestion to move taxation away from income ("good things") and onto externalities ("bad things") is a nice approach, could go further though. |
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MoscowMatt
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| Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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| I hear that he wants to whack a load more tax on flying. Well I know where he can stick that one!! :1evil: |
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antonio62
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"Terrorism thrives where civil liberties are denied,"
"Terrorism is not being defeated, it is being invigorated. Freedom is not being spread, it is being undermined."
Those are why everyone should vote Lib Dem. The tax reforms I think are in general good ones. |
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Ssushi
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| Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm only a short way in but he starts off like a stand up comic... |
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Ssushi
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| Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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| The thing about Ming is, that he may well be a good, decent, intelligent man. But he just doesn't come across like a leader. Blair does; he's a great speaker, he's able to gain backing in what he says as he says it with what appears a natural self belief. Ming doesn't come across that way... |
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Lord Hargreaves
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bob.appleyard wrote: His suggestion to move taxation away from income ("good things") and onto externalities ("bad things") is a nice approach, could go further though.
but surely this taxation is regressive? these lifestyle or "green" taxes make no account of anyones ability to pay. It is the poor, not the rich, who will be forced out of flying and enjoying the world or driving the car they've always dreamed of. i havent the slightest clue how anyone purporting to call themselves a liberal could support such policies, unless, perhaps, adherence to the fanatical religion of global warming has completely clouded the mind of all reason |
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Plato & Socrates
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| Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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| ANYWAY, WHO LIKES THE ARCTIC MONKEY'S? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: |
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bob.appleyard
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Lord Hargreaves wrote: bob.appleyard wrote: His suggestion to move taxation away from income ("good things") and onto externalities ("bad things") is a nice approach, could go further though.
but surely this taxation is regressive? these lifestyle or "green" taxes make no account of anyones ability to pay. It is the poor, not the rich, who will be forced out of flying and enjoying the world or driving the car they've always dreamed of.
That they're already largely kept from these luxuries notwithstanding, carbon usage correlates with wealth (as one would imagine). |
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