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the sane voice
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| Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 8:21 pm Post subject: do terrorist hate jews? |
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i hear claims saying terrorist are doing what they do because of israeli agression.
watch this vidoes and decide for yourself.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqIIxn-hMBE&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3ImrQDGAjQ&mode=related&search=
www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0BiwanZgPM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Igka8zNrUGQ&mode=related&search= |
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the sane voice
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| Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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here another one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtsOmlC3CK4&mode=related&search=
this one is more on anti semitism but in the muslim world. |
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fiction416
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| Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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I'm sure some terrorists do hate jews.
I'm sure some terrorists do hate Israel
I'm sure that some distinguish between the two. |
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the sane voice
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| Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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fiction416 wrote: I'm sure some terrorists do hate jews.
I'm sure some terrorists do hate Israel
I'm sure that some distinguish between the two.
sure youre sure.youre not even adressing the vidoes.
just general "arguments" dissregarding what you see:
a brain wash how jews are bad and evil.....
this are the terrorist you are protecting you know. |
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fiction416
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| Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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the sane voice wrote:
sure youre sure.youre not even adressing the vidoes.
yes, I am addressing the vidoes - I'm sorry you don't like my comment & the fact that i did not comment on each one, but that is my answer for the time being.
later, maybe when i have more time, i will critique each one individually, okay?
the sane voice wrote: just general "arguments" dissregarding what you see:
a brain wash how jews are bad and evil.....
I acknowledged what I saw & commented. what do you want from me?
the sane voice wrote: this are the terrorist you are protecting you know.
I'm not protecting anyone - stop making broad & sweeping accusations of people, that are completely untrue & unfounded (that is unless you can prove I am protecting terrorists?). Stop sensationalizing things & labeling people you are looking to have respond to your threads. |
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the sane voice
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| Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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fiction416 wrote: the sane voice wrote:
sure youre sure.youre not even adressing the vidoes.
yes, I am addressing the vidoes - I'm sorry you don't like my comment & the fact that i did not comment on each one, but that is my answer for the time being.
later, maybe when i have more time, i will critique each one individually, okay?
the sane voice wrote: just general "arguments" dissregarding what you see:
a brain wash how jews are bad and evil.....
I acknowledged what I saw & commented. what do you want from me?
the sane voice wrote: this are the terrorist you are protecting you know.
I'm not protecting anyone - stop making broad & sweeping accusations of people, that are completely untrue & unfounded (that is unless you can prove I am protecting terrorists?). Stop sensationalizing things & labeling people you are looking to have respond to your threads.
didnt you supported those terrorist in other discussion?didnt you said they were justified?didnt you talled me their actions are the outcome of israeli aggression?you even said you support a Lebanon's respond against israel aggression? |
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fiction416
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| Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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the sane voice wrote:
didnt you supported those terrorist in other discussion?
No - I donot support attacks on civilians by anyone
I do not support any type of terrorist action
the sane voice wrote: didnt you said they were justified?
No - I don't believe I did - but If you'd like, you can find the quotes & either bring them up in that thread, or this one.
I do, however, believe that the actions of Israel over the long term, have contributed to the current climate in the Middle East.
the sane voice wrote: didnt you talled me their actions are the outcome of israeli aggression?
That is rather broad & sweeping of a statement.
I said I believe that causality plays a role in the region - this goes both ways.
the sane voice wrote: you even said you support a Lebanon's respond against israel aggression?
Yes, I do.
In principle, do you not agree with Lebanon being able to protecct itself from outside aggression? |
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the sane voice
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| Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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fiction416 wrote:
No - I don't believe I did - but If you'd like, you can find the quotes & either bring them up in that thread, or this one.
I do, however, believe that the actions of Israel over the long term, have contributed to the current climate in the Middle East.
the sane voice wrote: didnt you talled me their actions are the outcome of israeli aggression?
That is rather broad & sweeping of a statement.
I said I believe that causality plays a role in the region - this goes both ways.
fiction416 wrote: superskippy wrote:
They are the true aggressors to begin with. Though I can tell you if that did happen, Lebanon would never rise again, nor would Syria or Iran.
Umm, Hezbollah was created by virtue of Israel's aggression.
Israel is the true aggressor, the original aggressor at the very least, when talking about Hezbollah.
fiction416 wrote:
They suffer because Israel has brutallized tehm for four (4) decades, that is why they suffer.
Why do you think they "want to destroy Israel?"
fiction416 wrote:
A) Israel is a country, not a female
B) The Israel Gov't left Gaza, no one forced them
C) I donot live in Gaza and cannot account for why individual groups choose to fire rockets into Israel, though, I'm sure they have many reason, with some of them having to do with the occupation of Gaza in the past, along with other Israel crimes against Palestinians.
Maybe if Israel had some patience, the rocket attacks would have stopped with some diplomatic encouragement? Things take time, afterall & patience is a vitrue...
fiction416 wrote:
Edit: Furthermore, I implied that it is Israel's fault that Israeli's are dying - I never said anything about Jews. |
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fiction416
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| Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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LOL - so what?
what does any of that prove?
EXPLAIN YOURSELF>?
(You should provide links - so that people can see the comments in the proper context too!) |
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the sane voice
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| Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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fiction416 wrote: LOL - so what?
what does any of that prove?
EXPLAIN YOURSELF>?
:lol: you just being quoted saying you justify those terrorist actions-its the result of israeli aggression.or you are being miss understood?
give me a break.stop embarrassing yourself. |
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fiction416
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| Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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the sane voice wrote: fiction416 wrote:
No - I don't believe I did - but If you'd like, you can find the quotes & either bring them up in that thread, or this one.
I do, however, believe that the actions of Israel over the long term, have contributed to the current climate in the Middle East.
the sane voice wrote: didnt you talled me their actions are the outcome of israeli aggression?
That is rather broad & sweeping of a statement.
I said I believe that causality plays a role in the region - this goes both ways.
fiction416 wrote: superskippy wrote:
They are the true aggressors to begin with. Though I can tell you if that did happen, Lebanon would never rise again, nor would Syria or Iran.
Umm, Hezbollah was created by virtue of Israel's aggression.
Israel is the true aggressor, the original aggressor at the very least, when talking about Hezbollah.
THIS IS A FACT - WHY HEZBOLLAH WAS CREATED
IN TERMS OF THE LEBANESE HISTORY, ISRAEL WAS THE AGGRESSOR
fiction416 wrote:
They suffer because Israel has brutallized tehm for four (4) decades, that is why they suffer.
Why do you think they "want to destroy Israel?"
YES, THIS IS ONE REASON THE PEOPLE IN GAZA SUFFER - DUE TO THE 4 DECADES OF ISRAELI OCCUPATION
fiction416 wrote:
A) Israel is a country, not a female
B) The Israel Gov't left Gaza, no one forced them
C) I donot live in Gaza and cannot account for why individual groups choose to fire rockets into Israel, though, I'm sure they have many reason, with some of them having to do with the occupation of Gaza in the past, along with other Israel crimes against Palestinians.
Maybe if Israel had some patience, the rocket attacks would have stopped with some diplomatic encouragement? Things take time, afterall & patience is a vitrue...
I AM VERY CLEAR HERE: "I'm sure they have many reasons".
fiction416 wrote:
Edit: Furthermore, I implied that it is Israel's fault that Israeli's are dying - I never said anything about Jews.
YES THIS IS MY ARGUMENT OF CAUSALITY - WHICH I HAVE BEEN CLEAR ON
Again, WTF was any of this supposed to prove?
Learn to articulate yourself, you are very nonsensical.
I have been completely consistent - Fruthermore, what does any of this have to do with terror against Jews? |
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the sane voice
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| Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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its like talking to a retard.
im sick of explaining every little thing to you. |
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fiction416
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| Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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the sane voice wrote: its like talking to a retard.
You looking in the mirror again!
the sane voice wrote: im sick of explaining every little thing to you.
You haven't & maybe you could start here: LINK |
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the sane voice
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| Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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fiction416 wrote: the sane voice wrote: its like talking to a retard.
You looking in the mirror again!
the sane voice wrote: im sick of explaining every little thing to you.
You haven't & maybe you could start here: LINK
but i just answered you.well if you dont like or cannot understand thats your problem is it?
its really frustrating talking to someone who needs to b exlained with every little thing. |
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fiction416
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| Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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the sane voice wrote: fiction416 wrote: the sane voice wrote: its like talking to a retard.
You looking in the mirror again!
the sane voice wrote: im sick of explaining every little thing to you.
You haven't & maybe you could start here: LINK
but i just answered you.well if you dont like or cannot understand thats your problem is it?
its really frustrating talking to someone who needs to b exlained with every little thing.
How do you excpect people who donot understand your POV, to understand it?
what's wrong with articulating yourself for clarity?
BTW, your english s*cks & sometimes it's hard to understand you (that's just one reason, for example) |
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the sane voice
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| Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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fiction416 wrote: the sane voice wrote: fiction416 wrote: the sane voice wrote: its like talking to a retard.
You looking in the mirror again!
the sane voice wrote: im sick of explaining every little thing to you.
You haven't & maybe you could start here: LINK
but i just answered you.well if you dont like or cannot understand thats your problem is it?
its really frustrating talking to someone who needs to b exlained with every little thing.
How do you excpect people who donot understand your POV, to understand it?
what's wrong with articulating yourself for clarity?
BTW, you english s*cks & sometimes it's hard to understand you (that's just one reason, for example)
yeah its s*cks when im talking to someone whe just keep bagging for me to explain to him everything like i work for him or something.
and from what i see only you keep not understanding so speek for yourself.and you destroyed this thread with this stupid offtopic like you are the center of the forum - and you blamed me for off topics :bnghd: |
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SpartanPhalanx
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| Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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the sane voice wrote: fiction416 wrote: LOL - so what?
what does any of that prove?
EXPLAIN YOURSELF>?
:lol: you just being quoted saying you justify those terrorist actions-its the result of israeli aggression.or you are being miss understood?
give me a break.stop embarrassing yourself.
Sane voice,
And just what has Israel accomplished apart from proving itself to be the arch-terrorist of them all during last months aggression?
fiction already said quite plainly that he doesn't support the killing of innocents by anyone. I would take that to mean anyone including the thousands of Lebanese and Palestinian victims Israel has created and continues to create as we speak. I am sorry, but that is quite plain to me. Your posting of videos exposes nothing. Palestinians have been living under the Jackboot of Israeli control and suffocation for decades. Of course the repercussions of these crimes are bound to come out in the psychological make-up of the general population. Thats a no-brainer. If your father, brother, uncle and niece have been killed or brutalized by Israel, how would YOU feel toward those who did it?
If Israel is genuinely concerned about the safety of its citizens, why then does it see fit to sow the seeds of more terror and more hatred and more violence by killing and maiming both in Lebanon and in Gaza at such obscene levels?
Israel has been killing in the name of the security of the Israeli people for decades and look where we are today....ten steps behind where you were in 1967. Your approach has gotten you nowhere yet you insist on doing the same thing you have been doing year after year while expecting a different result.
There is truly something sick in the Israeli collective psyche, there is a psychological term for that I am sure ... |
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fiction416
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| Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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the sane voice wrote:
yeah its s*cks when im talking to someone whe just keep bagging for me to explain to him everything like i work for him or something.
and from what i see only you keep not understanding so speek for yourself.and you destroyed this thread with this stupid offtopic like you are the center of the forum - and you blamed me for off topics :bnghd:
LOL - OK dude, you are the one who made this about me by quoting unrelated quotes from other threads, of mine - you singled me out.... & now you are blaming me for taking this off topic when you are the one who brought all the off-topic quotes into this thread
you are a joker |
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programmusic
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| Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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| which is why the mufti of jerusalem was a nazi before there was a state of Israel. |
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fiction416
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| Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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SpartanPhalanx wrote:
There is truly something sick in the Israeli collective psyche, there is a psychological term for that I am sure ...
Can I subscribe to your newsletter, sir. |
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