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[pullthepin]

Homosexuality is nothing new.

The ancient Greeks routinely engaged in homosexual activities, but the terms "heterosexual" and "homosexual" were used to describe activities, not identities.

With the growing popularity (in ancient times), of organized cults, the original leaders had to find specific ways to increase the size of the organization.

What better way than to declare homosexuality a "sin"? Less homosexual acts means more heterosexual acts, which transfers into more new little cultists every nine months.

Homosexuality is not wrong. It's a tool to create more followers of a cult.

[Silkheat]

pullthepin wrote: Homosexuality is nothing new.

The ancient Greeks routinely engaged in homosexual activities, but the terms "heterosexual" and "homosexual" were used to describe activities, not identities.

With the growing popularity (in ancient times), of organized cults, the original leaders had to find specific ways to increase the size of the organization.

What better way than to declare homosexuality a "sin"? Less homosexual acts means more heterosexual acts, which transfers into more new little cultists every nine months.

Homosexuality is not wrong. It's a tool to create more followers of a cult.



I think this is a very simplified explanation. If you recall the old testament, which pre-dates greek culture ( I belive) said homesexuality was wrong. It also said shell fish were wrong, and that you should kill a lady who was raped. So do what you want with it..

[eynon]

Silkheat wrote: pullthepin wrote: Homosexuality is nothing new.

The ancient Greeks routinely engaged in homosexual activities, but the terms "heterosexual" and "homosexual" were used to describe activities, not identities.

With the growing popularity (in ancient times), of organized cults, the original leaders had to find specific ways to increase the size of the organization.

What better way than to declare homosexuality a "sin"? Less homosexual acts means more heterosexual acts, which transfers into more new little cultists every nine months.

Homosexuality is not wrong. It's a tool to create more followers of a cult.



I think this is a very simplified explanation. If you recall the old testament, which pre-dates greek culture ( I belive) said homesexuality was wrong. It also said shell fish were wrong, and that you should kill a lady who was raped. So do what you want with it..

I know the other stuff from Levidicus, but where does it say the thing about killing raped women?

[Silkheat]

wannabe wrote: Silkheat wrote: pullthepin wrote: Homosexuality is nothing new.

The ancient Greeks routinely engaged in homosexual activities, but the terms "heterosexual" and "homosexual" were used to describe activities, not identities.

With the growing popularity (in ancient times), of organized cults, the original leaders had to find specific ways to increase the size of the organization.

What better way than to declare homosexuality a "sin"? Less homosexual acts means more heterosexual acts, which transfers into more new little cultists every nine months.

Homosexuality is not wrong. It's a tool to create more followers of a cult.



I think this is a very simplified explanation. If you recall the old testament, which pre-dates greek culture ( I belive) said homesexuality was wrong. It also said shell fish were wrong, and that you should kill a lady who was raped. So do what you want with it..

I know the other stuff from Levidicus, but where does it say the thing about killing raped women?


Death to the Rape Victim (Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)



If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.

[solus]

Silkheat wrote: wannabe wrote: Silkheat wrote: pullthepin wrote: Homosexuality is nothing new.

The ancient Greeks routinely engaged in homosexual activities, but the terms "heterosexual" and "homosexual" were used to describe activities, not identities.

With the growing popularity (in ancient times), of organized cults, the original leaders had to find specific ways to increase the size of the organization.

What better way than to declare homosexuality a "sin"? Less homosexual acts means more heterosexual acts, which transfers into more new little cultists every nine months.

Homosexuality is not wrong. It's a tool to create more followers of a cult.



I think this is a very simplified explanation. If you recall the old testament, which pre-dates greek culture ( I belive) said homesexuality was wrong. It also said shell fish were wrong, and that you should kill a lady who was raped. So do what you want with it..

I know the other stuff from Levidicus, but where does it say the thing about killing raped women?


Death to the Rape Victim (Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)



If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.


ALso if you said she wasn't a virgin


Or if I rape her, and she's not engaged or married, she has to marry me


joy


(pssst- someone misspelled Leviticus)

[The Comrade]

pullthepin wrote: Homosexuality is nothing new.

The ancient Greeks routinely engaged in homosexual activities, but the terms "heterosexual" and "homosexual" were used to describe activities, not identities.


it wasn't just men having sex with eachother. there were ways you went about it. it was still some what of a tabboo in greece.

pullthepin wrote: With the growing popularity (in ancient times), of organized cults, the original leaders had to find specific ways to increase the size of the organization.


What better way than to declare homosexuality a "sin"? Less homosexual acts means more heterosexual acts, which transfers into more new little cultists every nine months.

what?

actually i think it was considered unnatural because it bore no children.


but no, your cult idea is deffinatly why :roll:

pullthepin wrote: Homosexuality is not wrong. It's a tool to create more followers of a cult.

W
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where's robodoon when you need him?

[pullthepin]

The Comrade wrote:
what?

actually i think it was considered unnatural because it bore no children.


but no, your cult idea is deffinatly why :roll:
Oral sex also bears no children. I guess fellatio is a sin too. :roll:

[The Comrade]

pullthepin wrote: The Comrade wrote:
what?

actually i think it was considered unnatural because it bore no children.


but no, your cult idea is deffinatly why :roll:
Oral sex also bears no children. I guess fellatio is a sin too. :roll:


fellatio was also not allowed in ye olden days and was considered a sin.

[pullthepin]

The Comrade wrote: fellatio was also not allowed in ye olden days and was considered a sin.
And yet we still cling to the opinion that homosexuality is wrong.

Wierd, eh?

[The Comrade]

pullthepin wrote: The Comrade wrote: fellatio was also not allowed in ye olden days and was considered a sin.
And yet we still cling to the opinion that homosexuality is wrong.

Wierd, eh?

not really.


people always find ways to put themselves into "us and them" groups. homosexuality just happens to be one of those ways.

[pullthepin]

The Comrade wrote: pullthepin wrote: The Comrade wrote: fellatio was also not allowed in ye olden days and was considered a sin.
And yet we still cling to the opinion that homosexuality is wrong.

Wierd, eh?

not really.


people always find ways to put themselves into "us and them" groups. homosexuality just happens to be one of those ways.
"Us and Them" groups are usually stupid.

[The Comrade]

pullthepin wrote: "Us and Them" groups are usually stupid.

us and them groups are how humans we work. we compare people and group them accordingly. it's one way we deal with the massive amount of information we receive every second of out lives.


it's just common human nature.

[TheKrava]

The Comrade wrote: pullthepin wrote: Homosexuality is nothing new.

The ancient Greeks routinely engaged in homosexual activities, but the terms "heterosexual" and "homosexual" were used to describe activities, not identities.


it wasn't just men having sex with eachother. there were ways you went about it. it was still some what of a tabboo in greece.





What???????

That's not what I learned! :h

[toddytodd]

pullthepin wrote: Homosexuality is nothing new.

The ancient Greeks routinely engaged in homosexual activities, but the terms "heterosexual" and "homosexual" were used to describe activities, not identities.

With the growing popularity (in ancient times), of organized cults, the original leaders had to find specific ways to increase the size of the organization.

What better way than to declare homosexuality a "sin"? Less homosexual acts means more heterosexual acts, which transfers into more new little cultists every nine months.

Homosexuality is not wrong. It's a tool to create more followers of a cult.

Quote: What better way than to declare homosexuality a "sin"? Less homosexual acts means more heterosexual acts, which transfers into more new little cultists every nine months.

I think this is one of the main reasons why many religions view it as a 'sin'. And I could see this thinking in reverse as another reason why they think it is a 'sin'.
Factor in the (acceptable, for the time frame, but unacceptable for modern times) lack of understanding of human sexuality and you have an easy formula for sin.

[ChuckBerry]

The Catholic Church rejects homosexuality because it denies the procreative function of sex. No conspiracy theories about making cults bigger........

[Carlin]

CCD wrote: The Catholic Church rejects homosexuality because it denies the procreative function of sex. No conspiracy theories about making cults bigger........

That, and they find it disgusting.

[Silkheat]

CCD wrote: The Catholic Church rejects homosexuality because it denies the procreative function of sex. No conspiracy theories about making cults bigger........

No but they condone homosexual behavior between a priest and a boy. The catholic church and it's archaeic rules is a joke.

[dtwizzy2k5]

Silkheat wrote: CCD wrote: The Catholic Church rejects homosexuality because it denies the procreative function of sex. No conspiracy theories about making cults bigger........

No but they condone homosexual behavior between a priest and a boy. The catholic church and it's archaeic rules is a joke.

Show me where the Catholic Church once promoted, endorsed, or condoned the behavior of a select group of priests who did bad things.

[The Comrade]

TheKrava wrote: The Comrade wrote: pullthepin wrote: Homosexuality is nothing new.

The ancient Greeks routinely engaged in homosexual activities, but the terms "heterosexual" and "homosexual" were used to describe activities, not identities.


it wasn't just men having sex with eachother. there were ways you went about it. it was still some what of a tabboo in greece.





What???????

That's not what I learned! :h

then you learned wrong. homosexual acts in greece were accepted but they weren't championed. there weren't wild gay sex orgies going on. it was usually a master and a young apprentice, and most of the time the boys would be made to look like women as much as possible.

[Silkheat]

dtwizzy2k5 wrote: Silkheat wrote: CCD wrote: The Catholic Church rejects homosexuality because it denies the procreative function of sex. No conspiracy theories about making cults bigger........

No but they condone homosexual behavior between a priest and a boy. The catholic church and it's archaeic rules is a joke.

Show me where the Catholic Church once promoted, endorsed, or condoned the behavior of a select group of priests who did bad things.


You condone such behavior by not punishing the priest and letting them continue to preach.