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desert penguin



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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:52 pm    Post subject: deja vu  

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5346524.stm

The UN nuclear watchdog has protested to the US government over a report on Iran's nuclear programme, calling it "erroneous" and "misleading".

BBC wrote: In a leaked letter, the IAEA said a congressional report contained serious distortions of the agency's own findings on Iran's nuclear activity.

The IAEA also took "strong exception" to claims made over the removal of a senior safeguards inspector.

There was no immediate comment from Washington over the letter.

But Rep Rush Holt, a Democratic member of the House intelligence committee, which released the report, said it had never been meant for release to the public.

"This report was not ready for prime time and it was not prepared in a way that we can rely on. It relied heavily on unclassified testimony," he told the BBC's PM programme.

'Deja vu'

Signed by a senior director at the International Atomic Energy Agency, Vilmos Cserveny, the letter raises objections over the committee's report released on 23 August.

It says the report was wrong to say that Iran had enriched uranium to weapons-grade level when the IAEA had only found small quantities of enrichment at far lower levels.


The letter took "strong exception to the incorrect and misleading assertion" that the IAEA removed senior safeguards inspector Chris Charlier for "allegedly raising concerns about Iranian deception" over its programme.

It said Mr Charlier had been removed at the request of Tehran, which has the right to make such an objection under agreed rules between the agency and all states.

He remains head of a section investigating Iran, the IAEA says.

The letter went on to brand "outrageous and dishonest" a suggestion in the report that he was removed for not adhering "to an unstated IAEA policy barring IAEA officials from telling the whole truth" about Iran.

The letter, sent to Peter Hoekstra, head of the House of Representatives' Select Committee on Intelligence, was aimed at setting "the record straight on the facts", the IAEA said.

"This is a matter of the integrity of the IAEA and its inspectors," spokeswoman Melissa Fleming said in a statement.

A Western diplomat called it "deja vu of the pre-Iraq war period".

The IAEA and the US clashed over intelligence that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction in the lead-up to the war in Iraq in March 2003.


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citizen_X



Joined: 31 Aug 2006
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 3:59 pm    Post subject:  

No, watching re-runs of Beverlys hills 90210 and the family matters have put us to sleep, now we are too lazy to get up.

YAWNS

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"back to sleep"
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Fido



Joined: 16 Mar 2006
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 10:12 pm    Post subject:  

You cannot separate the lies being told from our desire to believe them. We want to trust our government because the alternative is to put all of our personal lives on a war footing. The average American does not need or desire some Iranian's kiss upon their butt to make them feel real. We would much prefer to buy their oil than steal it. We don't want our foot on their throats, or to crush the life from them. But our government will not even do them the honor of a civil -how do you do!
I know that any thing this government does to others it will not hesitate to do to its citizens. It is about power, and money; and government is the fast track and guarantee to these. Don't make any noise. Don't try to wake the beast, or the beast may turn on you. It is not that people do not know all this already about their government. It does not mean they do not spend a great deal of time praying for justice or worrying about the failures of government in their lives. People know it, but as long as kicking themselves, or others, or hope against hope is an option that will be done. If there was a clear path, and an easy answer people would already have tried it. The U.S. is like an over loaded boat without life jackets. No one wants anyone in the boat to rock it, and if that is you I hope you can swim. No one needs to be reminded of their circumstances, but all need solutions with a common appeal. That is the hard part.
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00timh



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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:09 am    Post subject: Re: deja vu  

desert penguin wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5346524.stm

The UN nuclear watchdog has protested to the US government over a report on Iran's nuclear programme, calling it "erroneous" and "misleading".

BBC wrote: In a leaked letter, the IAEA said a congressional report contained serious distortions of the agency's own findings on Iran's nuclear activity.

The IAEA also took "strong exception" to claims made over the removal of a senior safeguards inspector.

There was no immediate comment from Washington over the letter.

But Rep Rush Holt, a Democratic member of the House intelligence committee, which released the report, said it had never been meant for release to the public.

"This report was not ready for prime time and it was not prepared in a way that we can rely on. It relied heavily on unclassified testimony," he told the BBC's PM programme.

'Deja vu'

Signed by a senior director at the International Atomic Energy Agency, Vilmos Cserveny, the letter raises objections over the committee's report released on 23 August.

It says the report was wrong to say that Iran had enriched uranium to weapons-grade level when the IAEA had only found small quantities of enrichment at far lower levels.


The letter took "strong exception to the incorrect and misleading assertion" that the IAEA removed senior safeguards inspector Chris Charlier for "allegedly raising concerns about Iranian deception" over its programme.

It said Mr Charlier had been removed at the request of Tehran, which has the right to make such an objection under agreed rules between the agency and all states.

He remains head of a section investigating Iran, the IAEA says.

The letter went on to brand "outrageous and dishonest" a suggestion in the report that he was removed for not adhering "to an unstated IAEA policy barring IAEA officials from telling the whole truth" about Iran.

The letter, sent to Peter Hoekstra, head of the House of Representatives' Select Committee on Intelligence, was aimed at setting "the record straight on the facts", the IAEA said.

"This is a matter of the integrity of the IAEA and its inspectors," spokeswoman Melissa Fleming said in a statement.

A Western diplomat called it "deja vu of the pre-Iraq war period".

The IAEA and the US clashed over intelligence that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction in the lead-up to the war in Iraq in March 2003.


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!!! I find it funny that the IAEA which constantly scrutinizes (and rightfully so) all nuclear activity in the U.S. but Iran doesn't even allow for any inspections, have taken out cameras and the IAEA is now saying (when they are not even there) everything in Iran is cool? :roll: either there are some seriously partisan hacks running the IAEA or the article in the BBC is BS.
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Ssushi



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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:29 am    Post subject: Re: deja vu  

00timh wrote: desert penguin wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5346524.stm

The UN nuclear watchdog has protested to the US government over a report on Iran's nuclear programme, calling it "erroneous" and "misleading".

BBC wrote: In a leaked letter, the IAEA said a congressional report contained serious distortions of the agency's own findings on Iran's nuclear activity.

The IAEA also took "strong exception" to claims made over the removal of a senior safeguards inspector.

There was no immediate comment from Washington over the letter.

But Rep Rush Holt, a Democratic member of the House intelligence committee, which released the report, said it had never been meant for release to the public.

"This report was not ready for prime time and it was not prepared in a way that we can rely on. It relied heavily on unclassified testimony," he told the BBC's PM programme.

'Deja vu'

Signed by a senior director at the International Atomic Energy Agency, Vilmos Cserveny, the letter raises objections over the committee's report released on 23 August.

It says the report was wrong to say that Iran had enriched uranium to weapons-grade level when the IAEA had only found small quantities of enrichment at far lower levels.


The letter took "strong exception to the incorrect and misleading assertion" that the IAEA removed senior safeguards inspector Chris Charlier for "allegedly raising concerns about Iranian deception" over its programme.

It said Mr Charlier had been removed at the request of Tehran, which has the right to make such an objection under agreed rules between the agency and all states.

He remains head of a section investigating Iran, the IAEA says.

The letter went on to brand "outrageous and dishonest" a suggestion in the report that he was removed for not adhering "to an unstated IAEA policy barring IAEA officials from telling the whole truth" about Iran.

The letter, sent to Peter Hoekstra, head of the House of Representatives' Select Committee on Intelligence, was aimed at setting "the record straight on the facts", the IAEA said.

"This is a matter of the integrity of the IAEA and its inspectors," spokeswoman Melissa Fleming said in a statement.

A Western diplomat called it "deja vu of the pre-Iraq war period".

The IAEA and the US clashed over intelligence that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction in the lead-up to the war in Iraq in March 2003.


imho,



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!!! I find it funny that the IAEA which constantly scrutinizes (and rightfully so) all nuclear activity in the U.S. but Iran doesn't even allow for any inspections, have taken out cameras and the IAEA is now saying (when they are not even there) everything in Iran is cool? :roll: either there are some seriously partisan hacks running the IAEA or the article in the BBC is BS.

Noooooo. What they are saying is that the USA is lying about Iran's nuclear program. Now considered where the lies regarding Iraq took us, I'd say that that's quite serious, wouldn't you agree...?
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00timh



Joined: 08 Nov 2004
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Location: upstate NY

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 9:08 am    Post subject: Re: deja vu  

Ssushi wrote: 00timh wrote: desert penguin wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5346524.stm

The UN nuclear watchdog has protested to the US government over a report on Iran's nuclear programme, calling it "erroneous" and "misleading".

BBC wrote: In a leaked letter, the IAEA said a congressional report contained serious distortions of the agency's own findings on Iran's nuclear activity.

The IAEA also took "strong exception" to claims made over the removal of a senior safeguards inspector.

There was no immediate comment from Washington over the letter.

But Rep Rush Holt, a Democratic member of the House intelligence committee, which released the report, said it had never been meant for release to the public.

"This report was not ready for prime time and it was not prepared in a way that we can rely on. It relied heavily on unclassified testimony," he told the BBC's PM programme.

'Deja vu'

Signed by a senior director at the International Atomic Energy Agency, Vilmos Cserveny, the letter raises objections over the committee's report released on 23 August.

It says the report was wrong to say that Iran had enriched uranium to weapons-grade level when the IAEA had only found small quantities of enrichment at far lower levels.


The letter took "strong exception to the incorrect and misleading assertion" that the IAEA removed senior safeguards inspector Chris Charlier for "allegedly raising concerns about Iranian deception" over its programme.

It said Mr Charlier had been removed at the request of Tehran, which has the right to make such an objection under agreed rules between the agency and all states.

He remains head of a section investigating Iran, the IAEA says.

The letter went on to brand "outrageous and dishonest" a suggestion in the report that he was removed for not adhering "to an unstated IAEA policy barring IAEA officials from telling the whole truth" about Iran.

The letter, sent to Peter Hoekstra, head of the House of Representatives' Select Committee on Intelligence, was aimed at setting "the record straight on the facts", the IAEA said.

"This is a matter of the integrity of the IAEA and its inspectors," spokeswoman Melissa Fleming said in a statement.

A Western diplomat called it "deja vu of the pre-Iraq war period".

The IAEA and the US clashed over intelligence that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction in the lead-up to the war in Iraq in March 2003.


imho,



wake






up






America






!!! I find it funny that the IAEA which constantly scrutinizes (and rightfully so) all nuclear activity in the U.S. but Iran doesn't even allow for any inspections, have taken out cameras and the IAEA is now saying (when they are not even there) everything in Iran is cool? :roll: either there are some seriously partisan hacks running the IAEA or the article in the BBC is BS.

Noooooo. What they are saying is that the USA is lying about Iran's nuclear program. Now considered where the lies regarding Iraq took us, I'd say that that's quite serious, wouldn't you agree...? How do they know we are lying when they aren't even there?
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The_Right_Honourable



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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 9:32 am    Post subject:  

Obviously the American report 'extrapolates' from the IAEA report, an educated geuss at the current situation. But again thats an obviously dangerous thing to do...
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