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[metalan1]

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14723997/

The other thread got locked because of a wrong title of the article. Here is the right one.

So it lookes like over 50% of Americans polled believe that our government had involvement with 9/11. Is it still some crazy conspiracy theory ? 8% are unsure, and over 50% need questions answered so, which is the conspiracy theory ?


The 9/11 official fable will come crashing down, and the masses will finally accept the truth for what happened on 9/11. no more war, and the treasonous leaders will be arrested, and put to trial.

[Varyag]

I'll dignify this with a link

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons

[metalan1]

good, especially since you are in the minority. Why don't you take a look at physics professor steven jones' paper or look at "confronting the evidence." Then comeback with your cartoons.Think don't post cartoons.

[Varyag]

metalan1 wrote: good, especially since you are in the minority. Why don't you take a look at physics professor steven jones' paper or look at "confronting the evidence." Then comeback with your cartoons.Think don't post cartoons.

Nah, I think I'll just post more cartoons, they're more viable then the inaccurate facts (50% my ass) spouted here.

[homerjay_s]

Varyag wrote: metalan1 wrote: good, especially since you are in the minority. Why don't you take a look at physics professor steven jones' paper or look at "confronting the evidence." Then comeback with your cartoons.Think don't post cartoons.

Nah, I think I'll just post more cartoons, they're more viable then the inaccurate facts (50% my ass) spouted here.



Actually, your cartoon and your link are both faulty opinion pieces.

[Numb]

metalan1 wrote: http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14723997/

The other thread got locked because of a wrong title of the article. Here is the right one.

So it lookes like over 50% of Americans polled believe that our government had involvement with 9/11. Is it still some crazy conspiracy theory ? 8% are unsure, and over 50% need questions answered so, which is the conspiracy theory ?


The 9/11 official fable will come crashing down, and the masses will finally accept the truth for what happened on 9/11. no more war, and the treasonous leaders will be arrested, and put to trial.
I believe the subject of polls was stated before in a video called Screw Loose Change. Penn and Teller talked about how important polls really are when it comes to facts. Basically thay said that a poll is based on opinion, not on evidence. So if 90% of the population thinks that the conspiracy is true that doesn't mean that it isn't a load of BS.

[Silkheat]

WHile the 9/11 commission was a joke, I think there does need to be a real investigation into this matter. Until there is I reserve my opinion to 3 possibilities:

1) Bushco and the top brass were in on it.

2) The government completely dropped the ball once again proving it isn't worth the money we give it.

3) IT was an enemy attack and the government knew about it and choose to do nothing.

[lilwolf]

Silkheat wrote: WHile the 9/11 commission was a joke, I think there does need to be a real investigation into this matter. Until there is I reserve my opinion to 3 possibilities:

1) Bushco and the top brass were in on it.

2) The government completely dropped the ball once again proving it isn't worth the money we give it.

3) IT was a enemy attack and the government knew about it and choose to do nothing.

I'd be more inclined at present to opt for number 3 first and then #2.

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Silkheat wrote: WHile the 9/11 commission was a joke, I think there does need to be a real investigation into this matter. Until there is I reserve my opinion to 3 possibilities:

1) Bushco and the top brass were in on it.

2) The government completely dropped the ball once again proving it isn't worth the money we give it.

3) IT was a enemy attack and the government knew about it and choose to do nothing.
My money on #2.

[Wizard From Oz]

Yeah I will go with door number two

And also regarding that survey. It must be remembered that 76.2% of all stats are made up :roll:

[DMS]

metalan1 wrote:
The 9/11 official fable will come crashing down, and the masses will finally accept the truth for what happened on 9/11. no more war, and the treasonous leaders will be arrested, and put to trial.

Just like every so called "conspiracy" the facts will come out too late. Pearl Harbor and The Gulf of Ton kin are good examples. Psychics, logic, and common sense mean nothing. If you even question the governments almost impossible version, you are nuts. The media is a powerful weapon and the government wields it well. People think they are so clever poking fun at those who question the government. Yet, the government that they believe in has been caught lying and covering the truth up numerous times. Just keep consuming citizen, remain distracted, don't think too much, your benevolent government is working for you as it always has :roll:

It would be nice if what you posted would come to pass, but the majority is comfortable and distracted and those that are not are too poor and to busy with surviving to be bothered. As long as their is a two party system that only represents the wealthy it will be the s.o.s.

[Reverend_HellH0und]

metalan1 wrote:
So it lookes like over 50% of Americans polled believe that our government had involvement with 9/11. Is it still some crazy conspiracy theory ? 8% are unsure, and over 50% need questions answered so, which is the conspiracy theory ?.



From YOUR link:


A recent Scripps Howard/Ohio University poll of 1,010 Americans found that 36 percent suspect the U.S. government promoted the attacks or intentionally sat on its hands. Sixteen percent believe explosives brought down the towers. Twelve percent believe a cruise missile hit the Pentagon.






So a flacid poll of only 1,010 Americans by some no name pollster could only muster 35% yet you claim 50%.


What little credibility conspiracy theories have what do you think prevarication does to it?

[psholtz]

Reverend_HellH0und wrote: metalan1 wrote:
So it lookes like over 50% of Americans polled believe that our government had involvement with 9/11. Is it still some crazy conspiracy theory ? 8% are unsure, and over 50% need questions answered so, which is the conspiracy theory ?.



From YOUR link:


A recent Scripps Howard/Ohio University poll of 1,010 Americans found that 36 percent suspect the U.S. government promoted the attacks or intentionally sat on its hands. Sixteen percent believe explosives brought down the towers. Twelve percent believe a cruise missile hit the Pentagon.






So a flacid poll of only 1,010 Americans by some no name pollster could only muster 35% yet you claim 50%.


What little credibility conspiracy theories have what do you think prevarication does to it?
There was a recent Zogby poll in which 42% believed the 9/11 Commission Report was a coverup, and 10% were not sure, which means <50% of the American public believes the "official" government lie concerning 9/11.

[ubikk]

Has anyone seen the story about how some of the hijackers were spotted on one of Jack Abramoff's Casino boats a month or so before the attack?

Now that's one weird coincidence...

[Enoch]

psholtz wrote: Reverend_HellH0und wrote: metalan1 wrote:
So it lookes like over 50% of Americans polled believe that our government had involvement with 9/11. Is it still some crazy conspiracy theory ? 8% are unsure, and over 50% need questions answered so, which is the conspiracy theory ?.



From YOUR link:


A recent Scripps Howard/Ohio University poll of 1,010 Americans found that 36 percent suspect the U.S. government promoted the attacks or intentionally sat on its hands. Sixteen percent believe explosives brought down the towers. Twelve percent believe a cruise missile hit the Pentagon.






So a flacid poll of only 1,010 Americans by some no name pollster could only muster 35% yet you claim 50%.


What little credibility conspiracy theories have what do you think prevarication does to it?
There was a recent Zogby poll in which 42% believed the 9/11 Commission Report was a coverup, and 10% were not sure, which means <50% of the American public believes the "official" government lie concerning 9/11. And your point is what? 98% of Americans could believe that President Bush is actually a robot being controlled by Fidel Castro. But, that doesn't make it true.

All in all, opinion polls are worthless.

[psholtz]

Enoch wrote: And your point is what? 98% of Americans could believe that President Bush is actually a robot being controlled by Fidel Castro. But, that doesn't make it true.
What you just said is a lie.

[Enoch]

psholtz wrote: Enoch wrote: And your point is what? 98% of Americans could believe that President Bush is actually a robot being controlled by Fidel Castro. But, that doesn't make it true.
What you just said is a lie. No, no lie there.

The entire world used to believe that the Earth was flat. But, was public opinion right? Nope.

[psholtz]

Enoch wrote: psholtz wrote: Enoch wrote: And your point is what? 98% of Americans could believe that President Bush is actually a robot being controlled by Fidel Castro. But, that doesn't make it true.
What you just said is a lie. No, no lie there.

The entire world used to believe that the Earth was flat. But, was public opinion right? Nope.
98% of Americans do not believe that Bush is a robot being controlled by Castro.

You lied when you stated that.

At least you admit now that your view (i.e., the official government lie) is now the viewpoint held by the minority of Americans. Such an admission is better than nothing, I suppose.

[Patriot911]

psholtz wrote: Enoch wrote: psholtz wrote: Enoch wrote: And your point is what? 98% of Americans could believe that President Bush is actually a robot being controlled by Fidel Castro. But, that doesn't make it true.
What you just said is a lie. No, no lie there.

The entire world used to believe that the Earth was flat. But, was public opinion right? Nope.
98% of Americans do not believe that Bush is a robot being controlled by Castro.

You lied when you stated that.

At least you admit now that your view (i.e., the official government lie) is now the viewpoint held by the minority of Americans. Such an admission is better than nothing, I suppose.

You need to learn how to read. He said 98% COULD believe. I.e. he was giving a hypothetical example. He was NOT stating a fact, although it wouldn't surprise me to see something like this coming from you.

And as I stated before, your poll shows 48 believe the government, 42 believe there is a coverup (not the same as the conspiracy theories) and 10 are not sure. This means you are being intellectually dishonest when you claim to know that the 10 percent who are not sure would not believe the government story.

Either way the people who believe in a coverup (not necessarily the conspiracy theory) are still fewer than those who believe in the government.

BTW, the poll was designed by 911truth.com and executed by Zogby. Hmmmm...... :lol:

[NAB]

psholtz wrote: Enoch wrote: psholtz wrote: Enoch wrote: And your point is what? 98% of Americans could believe that President Bush is actually a robot being controlled by Fidel Castro. But, that doesn't make it true.
What you just said is a lie. No, no lie there.

The entire world used to believe that the Earth was flat. But, was public opinion right? Nope.
98% of Americans do not believe that Bush is a robot being controlled by Castro.

You lied when you stated that.

At least you admit now that your view (i.e., the official government lie) is now the viewpoint held by the minority of Americans. Such an admission is better than nothing, I suppose.

I believe that was a humrous exagerration to make a point. Are you a humorless automaton in real life, or do you just play one on the net?