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[Venom]

Quote: should they wait 30 years like the syrians???
or 60 years like the palestinians???
Well since your advocating the use of terrorism, maybe you should look back at why the situation is like this. Your country was supposed to disarm Hezbollah years ago. It has not... How long should Israel wait 30 years? 60 years? All the while being under the terror is Hezbollah... or they should do a job that Lebanon refuses to do?
Israel has proven it will negotiate... it has pulled out of Lebanon 2x now and gotten nothing in return.

Quote: are you trying to be funny? sarcastic?
sarcasm is used when there is no reason....
No I am just using your logic. You believe that because there are Lebenese detained by Israel they should be freed because of what? They are Lebenese... you do not care of what acts of violence and terror they have carried out against Israel.

Quote: exactly..... well can i ask thince they decided to leave lebanon....why didnt they give lebanon back those lands???
what hezbollah is doing is a REACTION while the ACTION is : not leaving lebanese soil" in other words (occupation)
Why didn't they give that land back? Well lets see your country has failed to keep up their end of a prior deal maybe? Yes if you recall the deal was for Israel to pull out of southern Lebanon as they did and for Hezbollah to be disarmed by your government. Your goverment failed and thus Israel has no reason to negotiate with your country as they have proven not to be able to keep their side of a deal.
Quote: ya u also forgot to mention

* they bombed the US embassy in Hounouloulou..... wich cost 1500 americans their lives.
* they murdered 3000-4000 civilians in sabra and chatila in lebanon.
* they kidnapped a US aircraft carrier and used its planes to bomb american targets in the middle-east.
* they bombed a skyscraper in germany costing 2000 people their lives.
* they kidnapped 10 airbus planes and killed all its passengers then crashed them in enormous buildings in france.

To that I simpy respond with a quote from you Quote: are you trying to be funny? sarcastic?
sarcasm is used when there is no reason....

[ALi*]

Quote: The Massacre

Three units of 50 militiamen each stood ready in the afternoon of Thursday, September 16, 1982 at the edge of Sabra and Chatila camps awaiting orders from the Israeli military command. At 5:00 p.m. they were sent into the refugee camps in accordance with the agreed program of action and they then commenced an orgy of killing which lasted until the morning of Saturday, September 18.

According to General Amir Drori, Commander of the Israeli Forces in Lebanon, Chief of Staff Rafael Eitan met the head of the Phalangist forces in East Beirut on Friday afternoon and congratulated the Phalangists on their smooth military operation inside the camps. At this meeting, the Phalangist leader asked for bulldozers. One or more were supplied. The bulldozers were used to dig mass graves into which were heaped the bodies of victims that filled the alleys. A number of houses were also bulldozed to cover up the bodies of the victims.



Quote: The number of victims

The precise number of victims of the massacre may never be exactly determined. The International Committee of the Red Cross counted 1,500 at the time but by September 22 this count had risen to 2,400. On the following day 350 bodies were uncovered so that the total then ascertained had reached 2,750. Kapeliouk points out that to the number of bodies found after the massacre one should add three categories of victims: (a) Those buried in mass graves whose number cannot be ascertained because the Lebanese authorities forbade their opening; (b) Those who were buried under the ruins of houses; and (c) Those who were taken alive to an unknown destination but never returned. The bodies of some of them were found by the side of the roads leading to the south. Kapeliouk asserts that the number of victims may be 3,000 to 3,500, one-quarter of whom were Lebanese, while the remainder were Palestinians.


http://www.jerusalemites.org/crimes/massacres/1.htm

as for the sci-fi link....I made it amigo....:P heres another one:
http://www.tooth-fairy.com/help/israel/plz.html

[superskippy]

And the offical talley today stands at around 700-1,200 the Red Cross sent a letter to the Kahan commision stating they had counted at least 328 bodies, this was followed by the follow up reports which the Kahan commision settled at 430 killed. Then the IDF and BBC upped the total to between 700-800 killed as the BBC has reaffirmed in a recent article.

Your quote is not from the Red Cross it is from Amnon Kapeliouk of Le Monde Diplomatique who quoted without evidence a Red Cross personal on site who gave a rough estimate. We now know the number they did in fact manage to count as they published it as a matter of record.

Also I cant open the website but my god man do you honestly beleive the crap you wrote before about "They killed 2,000 Germans in a skyscraper bombing" I mean what the f**k? Thats obscene only one of the things you listed ever occured.

[programmusic]

he was being sarcastic, implying that hezbollah didn't do those things(argentina us base etc)

[superskippy]

Oh so he is just a denier of their terrorist activities? Never mind the numerous arrest warrents out for these people and Argentina's blame falling on them... If he really denies those attacks then I guess I have nothing more to say to him, they were absoloutly henious attacks against Argentinians, Israelis, Panamanians, Americans, French, and British people whom by the way all blame Hezbollah for the specefic attacks in question. SIDE the Argentinian Intelligence Service has implicated Hezbollah and discovered their entry point into Argentina from the Tri-Border area.

[ALi*]

i didnt deny... but wheres ur proofs???
they are BELIEVED to be responsible of the attacks....

The USA administration is believed to have planned the 9-11 attacks in order to legitimate a war on irak.... does this mean its 100% true??
if yes... than maybe ur right theyve done it all....

[superskippy]

Quote: i didnt deny... but wheres ur proofs???
they are BELIEVED to be responsible of the attacks....

Lets begin with the horrendous French and Marine barracks bombings in Lebanon. Hezbollah is overwhelmingly accused in the attack and arrest warrents are out on several of the members for their part in the attacks. Hezbollah almost universally accepted as the ones responsable for the French and Marine barracks bombings, as well as the embassy bombings in their string of suicide attacks that gave them their foundation in Beirut.

The claim that Islamic Jihad did it not Hezbollah is absurd, Islamic Jihad is widely known as a cover name for Hezbollah the group itself does not exist. No member has ever been heard of, no statement save for claiming responsability after the attacks has ever been given, no agenda, no demand, no evidence what so ever that this group existed and the fact is they dont.

The Torrejon bombing is uncontested it was part of their bombing campaign against US targets including their new embassy annex in Lebanon several weeks later.

The hijacking of flight TWA-847 is without a doubt a Hezbollah operation, the murderer was captured and convicted in Germany. After 22 years he was released and returned to Lebanon and rejoined Hezbollah. Mohammed Ali Hamadei was the name of the Hezbollah murderer who aided in the hijacking and killed the US Navy Diver on board.

The hijacking in 1984 of the Kuwaiti airlines is blamed by both the US and Kuwait on Hezbollah after the Kuwaitis discerned what had occured, 4 people were killed including 2 US citizens.

The murder and kidnapping of UN officials stands for itself, the UN publishes a book on it you can buy very cheaply for $10 it's their own encyclopedia of UN operations from 1948-1997 and has an extensive account on Lebanon and Hezbollah.

We then have their bombing of the Israeli Embassy in 1992 in Argentina, they killed 30 people most of the people killed were Argentinians which prompted the furious anger from Argentina over the attacks and the public outrage. The Argentinian SIDE investigated the attacks and blamed Hezbollah. Argentina also has indicted Hezbollah Imad Fayez Mugniyah a senior officer in the organization and also the mastermind of many attacks including the embassy bombing. The stated reason for the attack was stated as the assasination of Hezbollah leader Sheik Abbas-Al Musawi. Of course that is no excuse.

The attack was to be followed by a series of horribly deadly bombings by Hezbollah in 1994. First was the bombing of the AMIA building in Buenos Aires a Jewish Cultural center, the bombing was carried out by Ibrahim Hussein Berro. The Hezbollah bomber was honored with a plaque by Hezbollah in Lebanon. He murdered 85 Argentinians and wounded over 300. The man Ibrahim Hussein Berro is a confirmed member of Hezbollah and has been greatly honored by them and his mother is under the pension of Hezbollah.

The Panamanian Airline bombings wre carried out under the front name "Partisans of God" no evidence exists for the groups existance and Argentina, Panama, and Great Britian all victims of the Hezbollah bombings place the blame squarly on Hezbollah's shoulders and have followed through with indictments and arrest warrents.

I could go on and on about terrorist attacks Hezbollah has on it's hands and the piling evidence for it, if you dont accept it then thats your own view and in my view it is utterly obscene.

[ALi*]

Quote: Lets begin with the horrendous French and Marine barracks bombings in Lebanon. Hezbollah is overwhelmingly accused in the attack and arrest warrents are out on several of the members for their part in the attacks. Hezbollah almost universally accepted as the ones responsable for the French and Marine barracks bombings, as well as the embassy bombings in their string of suicide attacks that gave them their foundation in Beirut.
they were invaders and not peacekeepers or wanters.... the war continued mor than 10 years after the attacks....

Quote: The claim that Islamic Jihad did it not Hezbollah is absurd, Islamic Jihad is widely known as a cover name for Hezbollah the group itself does not exist. No member has ever been heard of, no statement save for claiming responsability after the attacks has ever been given, no agenda, no demand, no evidence what so ever that this group existed and the fact is they dont.
you just wanna blame them for anything....

[lilwolf]

programmusic wrote: ALi* wrote: Quote: If they want these things maybe they shouldn't kill and kidnap Israeli soldiers?
should they wait 30 years like the syrians???
or 60 years like the palestinians???


Yes, the syrians, and especially the palestinians, have not attacked Israel in 60 years. :roll:


So lets look at your logic here for a minute. Do not the PLO and Hammas and Alaqsa brigade live in Palestine. Therefore they are palestinian by birth or whatever term you choose. So much for the 60 years of no attacks by the palestinians.

Now you want to talk about the cowards the Hezbollah. Now do not set there and say even once that the Hez do not hide in hospitals, hide in schools with innocent children, do not hide in Mosques and in general have not fired first. I will tell you point blank that you have bumped your head.

The hez Kitty Cats have constantyl launched missles into areas where innocent people lived. That is a fact and then the kidnap 2 soldiers who were on guard duty and thay is justified?

The only thing that is sad is that Israel has had to put up with these gutless pigs for so long. It is also dissapointing that they did not finish the job by either eliminating the enemy or by forcing them totally out of lebanon. That is the shame.

Now you might call the way the hide and mix in with the innocent as being bravre and all, but to wantonly endanger innocent people with their cowardly actions is a dsigrace in itself.

[ALi*]

you want a list of terrorist attacks and mass murdering and internationnal crimes???? ill give u one....
Quote:
israeli Massacres
The following list of massacres is by no means exclusive, but they reflect the nature of the Zionist occupation of Palestine and Lebanon and show that massacres and expulsions were not aberrations that happen in any war, but organized atrocities with only one aim, that is to have a Zionist state which is 'goyim rein'.

The King David Massacre
The Massacre at Baldat al-Shaikh
YEHIDA MASSACRE
KHISAS MASSACRE
QAZAZA MASSACRE
The Semiramis Hotel Massacre
The Massacre at Dair Yasin
NASER AL-DIN MASSACRE
THE TANTURA MASSACRE
BEIT DARAS MASSACRE
THE DAHMASH MOSQUE MASSACRE
DAWAYMA MASSACRE
HOULA MASSACRE
SHARAFAT MASSACRE
Salha Massacre
The Massacre at Qibya
KAFR QASEM MASSACRE
Khan Yunis Massacre
The Massacre in Gaza City
AL-SAMMOU' MASSACRE
Aitharoun Massacre
Kawnin Massacre
Hanin Massacre
Bint Jbeil Massacre
Abbasieh Massacre
Adloun Massacre
Saida Massacre
Fakhani Massacre
Beirut Massacre
Sabra And Shatila Massacre
Jibsheet Massacre
Sohmor Massacre
Seer Al Garbiah
Maaraka Massacres
Zrariah Massacre
Homeen Al-Tahta Massacre
Jibaa Massacre
Yohmor Massacre
Tiri massacre
Al-Naher Al-Bared Massacre
Ain Al-Hillwee Massacre
OYON QARA MASSACRE
Siddiqine Massacre
AL-AQSA MOSQUE MASSACRE
THE IBRAHIMI MOSQUE MASSACRE
THE JABALIA MASSACRE
Aramta Massacre
ERETZ CHECKPOINT MASSACRE
Deir Al-Zahrani Massacre
Nabatiyeh (school bus) Massacre
Mnsuriah Massacre
The Sohmor Second Massacre
Nabatyaih Massacre
Qana Massacre
Trqumia Massacr
Janta Massacre
24 Of June 1999 Massacres
Western Bekaa villages Massacre


hate hate hate......!!!!!

you want more?

Quote: "The Arabs are Donkeys and Beasts"
"The nation of Israel is pure and the Arabs are a nation of donkeys. They are an evil disaster, an evil devil, and a nasty affliction. The Arabs are donkeys and beasts. They want to take our girls. They are endowed with true filthiness. There is pure and there is impure and they are impure."

--Rabbi David Batzri, head of the Magen David Yeshiva in Jerusalem [Israeli newspaper Haaretz, March 21, 2006]

"One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail."
Rabbi Yaacov Perrin, Feb. 27, 1994 [N.Y. Times, Feb. 28, 1994, p. 1]


even more?????
Quote: Heil Druckman!
Rabbis Tell Israeli Army: Don't Spare Civilians
by Michael A. Hoffman II

Based on Talmudic halacha (law), several prominent Israeli rabbis, including Bnei Akiva's Rabbi Haim Druckman, declared on Sept. 7, 2004 that "killing enemy civilians during war is normal." So what problem do the rabbis have with Hitler? Simply stated, his sin was based on the fact that, mistakenly thinking he was head of the Master Race, Hitler killed human beings; whereas Israelis, who know for certain they are the Master Race, merely snuff-out sub-humans.

Rabbi Haim Druckman
A GROUP OF 14 PROMINENT RABBIS, led by Haim Druckman, who are considered authorities by the religious-Zionist public, have asked the Israeli army not to flinch from killing Palestinian civilians in the context of the ongoing military campaign against armed groups resisting the occupation


and THEY STILL WONDER WHY THEY ARE HATED BY EVERYONE!!!
and THEY STILL CALL US "the terrorists".

jews are welcomed anywhere in arab countries but zionists will NEVER live peacefully on our lands......

ali*
http://www.revisionisthistory.org

[lilwolf]

ALi* wrote: you want a list of terrorist attacks and mass murdering and internationnal crimes???? ill give u one....
Quote:
israeli Massacres
The following list of massacres is by no means exclusive, but they reflect the nature of the Zionist occupation of Palestine and Lebanon and show that massacres and expulsions were not aberrations that happen in any war, but organized atrocities with only one aim, that is to have a Zionist state which is 'goyim rein'.

The King David Massacre
The Massacre at Baldat al-Shaikh
YEHIDA MASSACRE
KHISAS MASSACRE
QAZAZA MASSACRE
The Semiramis Hotel Massacre
The Massacre at Dair Yasin
NASER AL-DIN MASSACRE
THE TANTURA MASSACRE
BEIT DARAS MASSACRE
THE DAHMASH MOSQUE MASSACRE
DAWAYMA MASSACRE
HOULA MASSACRE
SHARAFAT MASSACRE
Salha Massacre
The Massacre at Qibya
KAFR QASEM MASSACRE
Khan Yunis Massacre
The Massacre in Gaza City
AL-SAMMOU' MASSACRE
Aitharoun Massacre
Kawnin Massacre
Hanin Massacre
Bint Jbeil Massacre
Abbasieh Massacre
Adloun Massacre
Saida Massacre
Fakhani Massacre
Beirut Massacre
Sabra And Shatila Massacre
Jibsheet Massacre
Sohmor Massacre
Seer Al Garbiah
Maaraka Massacres
Zrariah Massacre
Homeen Al-Tahta Massacre
Jibaa Massacre
Yohmor Massacre
Tiri massacre
Al-Naher Al-Bared Massacre
Ain Al-Hillwee Massacre
OYON QARA MASSACRE
Siddiqine Massacre
AL-AQSA MOSQUE MASSACRE
THE IBRAHIMI MOSQUE MASSACRE
THE JABALIA MASSACRE
Aramta Massacre
ERETZ CHECKPOINT MASSACRE
Deir Al-Zahrani Massacre
Nabatiyeh (school bus) Massacre
Mnsuriah Massacre
The Sohmor Second Massacre
Nabatyaih Massacre
Qana Massacre
Trqumia Massacr
Janta Massacre
24 Of June 1999 Massacres
Western Bekaa villages Massacre


hate hate hate......!!!!!

you want more?

Quote: "The Arabs are Donkeys and Beasts"
"The nation of Israel is pure and the Arabs are a nation of donkeys. They are an evil disaster, an evil devil, and a nasty affliction. The Arabs are donkeys and beasts. They want to take our girls. They are endowed with true filthiness. There is pure and there is impure and they are impure."

--Rabbi David Batzri, head of the Magen David Yeshiva in Jerusalem [Israeli newspaper Haaretz, March 21, 2006]

"One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail."
Rabbi Yaacov Perrin, Feb. 27, 1994 [N.Y. Times, Feb. 28, 1994, p. 1]


even more?????
Quote: Heil Druckman!
Rabbis Tell Israeli Army: Don't Spare Civilians
by Michael A. Hoffman II

Based on Talmudic halacha (law), several prominent Israeli rabbis, including Bnei Akiva's Rabbi Haim Druckman, declared on Sept. 7, 2004 that "killing enemy civilians during war is normal." So what problem do the rabbis have with Hitler? Simply stated, his sin was based on the fact that, mistakenly thinking he was head of the Master Race, Hitler killed human beings; whereas Israelis, who know for certain they are the Master Race, merely snuff-out sub-humans.

Rabbi Haim Druckman
A GROUP OF 14 PROMINENT RABBIS, led by Haim Druckman, who are considered authorities by the religious-Zionist public, have asked the Israeli army not to flinch from killing Palestinian civilians in the context of the ongoing military campaign against armed groups resisting the occupation


and THEY STILL WONDER WHY THEY ARE HATED BY EVERYONE!!!
and THEY STILL CALL US "the terrorists".

jews are welcomed anywhere in arab countries but zionists will NEVER live peacefully on our lands......

ali*
http://www.revisionisthistory.org



So what is your so called intelligent point here. All you have demonstrated is that your hate is greater than theirs..... You have lost the argument by your own rage and lack of good judgement. That is a shame because I thought you might have something called common sense here but it appears I was clearly wrong. :gdgf:

[programmusic]

Um, you know that 20% of Israel is non jewish. Which is higher than the amount of non christians in most countries, or non muslims in the middle east.

Look at the sites that Ali's post came from


http://www.revisionisthistory.org/

http://www.littlegeneva.com/

http://www.deathmasters.com/

[lilwolf]

programmusic wrote: Um, you know that 20% of Israel is non jewish. Which is higher than the amount of non christians in most countries, or non muslims in the middle east.

Look at the sites that Ali's post came from


http://www.revisionisthistory.org/

http://www.littlegeneva.com/

http://www.deathmasters.com/


I am aware of that but Ali has demonstrated that rage and anger has destroyed any semblamce of intelligence here. The rage has clouded judgment and does not even warrant an answer.
The Hezbollah are terrorists and have always been that. Pure and simple so the anger has taken over and i see nothing that is of logic to discuss. Have a good one my friend. :-D

[superskippy]

Quote: they were invaders and not peacekeepers or wanters....

How dare you, these people risked their lives to bring peace to Beirut, to bring food and aid, to end the bloodshed and massacres and were heralded throughout the planet as peacemakers. Hezbollah brutally murdered them for their own ends.

Quote: you just wanna blame them for anything....

I justly blame them for the crimes they committed which are numerous and have a heft body count to their name.

Quote: you want a list of terrorist attacks and mass murdering and internationnal crimes???? ill give u one....

I went through the list and fully half of them are incidents that took place during the 1947-1949 wars and many of them do not offer evidence of massacre only listing people who died in an attack.

Of those I can find information on almost no websites and the few that I can have one or two to their name and have no sources cited to them. For example the non specefic 24th of June 1999 massacre. Many of them arent even massacres they are battles or engagements where civilians died. Or Yohmor, which is a town that suffered no massacre but is plagued by some unexploded artillary shells from conflicts in the past.

[lilwolf]

ALi* wrote: you want a list of terrorist attacks and mass murdering and internationnal crimes???? ill give u one....
Quote:
israeli Massacres
The following list of massacres is by no means exclusive, but they reflect the nature of the Zionist occupation of Palestine and Lebanon and show that massacres and expulsions were not aberrations that happen in any war, but organized atrocities with only one aim, that is to have a Zionist state which is 'goyim rein'.

The King David Massacre
The Massacre at Baldat al-Shaikh
YEHIDA MASSACRE
KHISAS MASSACRE
QAZAZA MASSACRE
The Semiramis Hotel Massacre
The Massacre at Dair Yasin
NASER AL-DIN MASSACRE
THE TANTURA MASSACRE
BEIT DARAS MASSACRE
THE DAHMASH MOSQUE MASSACRE
DAWAYMA MASSACRE
HOULA MASSACRE
SHARAFAT MASSACRE
Salha Massacre
The Massacre at Qibya
KAFR QASEM MASSACRE
Khan Yunis Massacre
The Massacre in Gaza City
AL-SAMMOU' MASSACRE
Aitharoun Massacre
Kawnin Massacre
Hanin Massacre
Bint Jbeil Massacre
Abbasieh Massacre
Adloun Massacre
Saida Massacre
Fakhani Massacre
Beirut Massacre
Sabra And Shatila Massacre
Jibsheet Massacre
Sohmor Massacre
Seer Al Garbiah
Maaraka Massacres
Zrariah Massacre
Homeen Al-Tahta Massacre
Jibaa Massacre
Yohmor Massacre
Tiri massacre
Al-Naher Al-Bared Massacre
Ain Al-Hillwee Massacre
OYON QARA MASSACRE
Siddiqine Massacre
AL-AQSA MOSQUE MASSACRE
THE IBRAHIMI MOSQUE MASSACRE
THE JABALIA MASSACRE
Aramta Massacre
ERETZ CHECKPOINT MASSACRE
Deir Al-Zahrani Massacre
Nabatiyeh (school bus) Massacre
Mnsuriah Massacre
The Sohmor Second Massacre
Nabatyaih Massacre
Qana Massacre
Trqumia Massacr
Janta Massacre
24 Of June 1999 Massacres
Western Bekaa villages Massacre


hate hate hate......!!!!!

you want more?

Quote: "The Arabs are Donkeys and Beasts"
"The nation of Israel is pure and the Arabs are a nation of donkeys. They are an evil disaster, an evil devil, and a nasty affliction. The Arabs are donkeys and beasts. They want to take our girls. They are endowed with true filthiness. There is pure and there is impure and they are impure."

--Rabbi David Batzri, head of the Magen David Yeshiva in Jerusalem [Israeli newspaper Haaretz, March 21, 2006]

"One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail."
Rabbi Yaacov Perrin, Feb. 27, 1994 [N.Y. Times, Feb. 28, 1994, p. 1]


even more?????
Quote: Heil Druckman!
Rabbis Tell Israeli Army: Don't Spare Civilians
by Michael A. Hoffman II

Based on Talmudic halacha (law), several prominent Israeli rabbis, including Bnei Akiva's Rabbi Haim Druckman, declared on Sept. 7, 2004 that "killing enemy civilians during war is normal." So what problem do the rabbis have with Hitler? Simply stated, his sin was based on the fact that, mistakenly thinking he was head of the Master Race, Hitler killed human beings; whereas Israelis, who know for certain they are the Master Race, merely snuff-out sub-humans.

Rabbi Haim Druckman
A GROUP OF 14 PROMINENT RABBIS, led by Haim Druckman, who are considered authorities by the religious-Zionist public, have asked the Israeli army not to flinch from killing Palestinian civilians in the context of the ongoing military campaign against armed groups resisting the occupation


and THEY STILL WONDER WHY THEY ARE HATED BY EVERYONE!!!
and THEY STILL CALL US "the terrorists".

jews are welcomed anywhere in arab countries but zionists will NEVER live peacefully on our lands......

ali*
http://www.revisionisthistory.org


Looks like you pissed on yourself with this list . I am betting that over half or more can't even be found on line or in an encyclopedia. I recognize some of the incidents just off the top as being in the 40 and 50's. So your list is about as bogus as hell here.
You anger has swayed your logic and you have lost the argument :lol:

[ALi*]

guys guys guys.... i go to sleep i wake up i find out you were making fun of me? hehe anyway...

Quote: You anger has swayed your logic
anger? am not angry... all of those crimes and massacres were in the past, we just defeated teh zionists a month ago.... am happy!! yet better tomorow i am participating in a MASSIVE festival celebrating our victory in beirut.... its expected to be the biggest in lebanon's history (note: we've had a couple of 1million people rallies ;) so ill let u do the maths for this one) so my point is i am and everyone here is far over anger :P lol the past is the past and it was israeli.... but the future is ours ;)

Quote: half of them are incidents that took place during the 1947-1949
is that supposed to be an explanation??? an excuse??
i wonder if ur totally aware of what ur saying because it shows ur lack of moral and human feelings and it supports mass murdering and crimes.

Quote: All you have demonstrated is that your hate is greater than theirs.....
actually theres a misunderstanding..... :?
i was showing you that zionist hate is way bigger than arab/muslim hate....
i am not defending arab or muslim terrorists.... what they are doing is wrong... but im letting you know theres a reason for their actions.

Quote: That is a shame because I thought you might have something called common sense here but it appears I was clearly wrong.
you see comon sense is something we all agree on without exception,
- the sun is bigger than the moon is comon sense.
- cats have 2 eyes is comon sense.
- apples come from apple trees is comon sence.

while things you discuss on forums especially when it comes to politics is anything but comon sense....
every individual has his opinion or way of thinking so what you think or what i think does not make it comon sense.
per exemple:
- the iranian president thinks israel should be wiped off from history.
- israel think iran is building a nuclear bomb.
- i think bush is a cowboy and a world-class-record-braking-stupid president and also should be sued for war crimes.
- u think hezbollah is a terrorist group.
are those all comon sense???
no! its a forum where everyone offer his opinion and defends it..... unlike you guys who when answer or explanation is missed you turn to making fun of teh poster by saying he lacks logic...

i guess i made my point!
peace ali

[lilwolf]

ALi* wrote: guys guys guys.... i go to sleep i wake up i find out you were making fun of me? hehe anyway...

Quote: You anger has swayed your logic
anger? am not angry... all of those crimes and massacres were in the past, we just defeated teh zionists a month ago.... am happy!! yet better tomorow i am participating in a MASSIVE festival celebrating our victory in beirut.... its expected to be the biggest in lebanon's history (note: we've had a couple of 1million people rallies ;) so ill let u do the maths for this one) so my point is i am and everyone here is far over anger :P lol the past is the past and it was israeli.... but the future is ours ;)

Quote: half of them are incidents that took place during the 1947-1949
is that supposed to be an explanation??? an excuse??
i wonder if ur totally aware of what ur saying because it shows ur lack of moral and human feelings and it supports mass murdering and crimes.

Quote: All you have demonstrated is that your hate is greater than theirs.....
actually theres a misunderstanding..... :?
i was showing you that zionist hate is way bigger than arab/muslim hate....
i am not defending arab or muslim terrorists.... what they are doing is wrong... but im letting you know theres a reason for their actions.

Quote: That is a shame because I thought you might have something called common sense here but it appears I was clearly wrong.
you see comon sense is something we all agree on without exception,
- the sun is bigger than the moon is comon sense.
- cats have 2 eyes is comon sense.
- apples come from apple trees is comon sence.

while things you discuss on forums especially when it comes to politics is anything but comon sense....
every individual has his opinion or way of thinking so what you think or what i think does not make it comon sense.
per exemple:
- the iranian president thinks israel should be wiped off from history.
- israel think iran is building a nuclear bomb.
- i think bush is a cowboy and a world-class-record-braking-stupid president and also should be sued for war crimes.
- u think hezbollah is a terrorist group.
are those all comon sense???
no! its a forum where everyone offer his opinion and defends it..... unlike you guys who when answer or explanation is missed you turn to making fun of teh poster by saying he lacks logic...

i guess i made my point!
peace ali


No you have not made a point. If there was one to be made for you it would be this. You have demonstarted that you are a terrorist supporter and that is a shame. Because in doing so you are condoning the actions of butchers over a nation that merely wants to be left alone.
The hezbollah are only alive because Israel stopped. I wish they had not stopped but had finished the job and either ran Hezbollah out or hunted them down and killed them. Either way the decent people in Lebanon could have had what was once a beautiful nation back. They would not have to live in fear that the Hez would start another conflict.

That is my point here is that you have no point, no logic, no common snese to see them for what they are.

[MoscowMatt]

ALi* wrote: guys guys guys.... i go to sleep i wake up i find out you were making fun of me? hehe anyway...

Quote: You anger has swayed your logic
anger? am not angry... all of those crimes and massacres were in the past, we just defeated teh zionists a month ago.... am happy!! yet better tomorow i am participating in a MASSIVE festival celebrating our victory in beirut.... its expected to be the biggest in lebanon's history (note: we've had a couple of 1million people rallies ;) so ill let u do the maths for this one) so my point is i am and everyone here is far over anger :P lol the past is the past and it was israeli.... but the future is ours ;)

Quote: half of them are incidents that took place during the 1947-1949
is that supposed to be an explanation??? an excuse??
i wonder if ur totally aware of what ur saying because it shows ur lack of moral and human feelings and it supports mass murdering and crimes.

Quote: All you have demonstrated is that your hate is greater than theirs.....
actually theres a misunderstanding..... :?
i was showing you that zionist hate is way bigger than arab/muslim hate....
i am not defending arab or muslim terrorists.... what they are doing is wrong... but im letting you know theres a reason for their actions.

Quote: That is a shame because I thought you might have something called common sense here but it appears I was clearly wrong.
you see comon sense is something we all agree on without exception,
- the sun is bigger than the moon is comon sense.
- cats have 2 eyes is comon sense.
- apples come from apple trees is comon sence.

while things you discuss on forums especially when it comes to politics is anything but comon sense....
every individual has his opinion or way of thinking so what you think or what i think does not make it comon sense.
per exemple:
- the iranian president thinks israel should be wiped off from history.
- israel think iran is building a nuclear bomb.
- i think bush is a cowboy and a world-class-record-braking-stupid president and also should be sued for war crimes.
- u think hezbollah is a terrorist group.
are those all comon sense???
no! its a forum where everyone offer his opinion and defends it..... unlike you guys who when answer or explanation is missed you turn to making fun of teh poster by saying he lacks logic...

i guess i made my point!
peace ali

Quote: we just defeated teh zionists a month ago

Really!!! There was me thinking the UN intervened because Lebanon was on the verge of being reduced to a pile of rubble. Some victory. :lol: :lol:

[superskippy]

I dont think it's worth my time refuting you once again so I'll move on to rational debates.

[ALi*]

Quote: You have demonstarted that you are a terrorist supporter and that is a shame.
well, you have showed that you are a terrorism supporter urself by supporting mass killing and children murder. And that is really a shame!

Quote: I wish they had not stopped but had finished the job and either ran Hezbollah out or hunted them down and killed them.
ya make a movie about it....
the israeli peopel is sooo weak and soooo uncapable of facing long wars... it really amazed me they managed to battle for 33 days... but again it must be american pressure that forced them to continue hoping hezbollah will surrender..... lol ya right...

Quote: Really!!! There was me thinking the UN intervened because Lebanon was on the verge of being reduced to a pile of rubble. Some victory.
omg ur completely ignorant....
the allies lost many more men than teh germans in WW2 and ally cities were all reduced to rubble by the germans.... but who won??? destruction doesnt show anything.... u can rebuild a country in 5 years! so.... its better sumtimes to make peopel think that ur stupid than to actually post and prove it :?

Quote: I dont think it's worth my time refuting you once again so I'll move on to rational debates.
10x...:D: