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[William Amos]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060907/ap_on_re_mi_ea/al_jazeera_bin_laden_tape

Nice to place to rest all those silly conspiracy theories. Osama is showing more proof he did it

[flamboyant]

I wonder if the conspiracy loons ever get an inkling of just how delusional their claims are and how much they're the laughing stock of the forum?

[Claudia Schiffer]

flamboyant wrote: I wonder if the conspiracy loons ever get an inkling of just how delusional their claims are and how much they're the laughing stock of the forum?

You guys are the laughing stock of the whole world. :roll: Weak up!

How did WT7 collapse????

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9184329400593634920&q=label%3Azionism

Wait! thsi guy knows how that happened. :wink:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNEoiOP76QQ&mode=related&search=

[Reverend_HellH0und]

Claudia Schiffer wrote: flamboyant wrote: I wonder if the conspiracy loons ever get an inkling of just how delusional their claims are and how much they're the laughing stock of the forum?

You guys are the laughing stock of the whole world. :roll: Weak up!

How did WT7 collapse????

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9184329400593634920&q=label%3Azionism

Wait! thsi guy knows how that happened. :wink:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNEoiOP76QQ&mode=related&search=





Try asking someone who was there. It is obvious to us.

[IHateAmerica]

Reverend_HellH0und wrote: Claudia Schiffer wrote: flamboyant wrote: I wonder if the conspiracy loons ever get an inkling of just how delusional their claims are and how much they're the laughing stock of the forum?

You guys are the laughing stock of the whole world. :roll: Weak up!

How did WT7 collapse????

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9184329400593634920&q=label%3Azionism

Wait! thsi guy knows how that happened. :wink:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNEoiOP76QQ&mode=related&search=





Try asking someone who was there. It is obvious to us.

Right, like in the other thread where you wrote your grandpappy liberated at Aushwitz? :lol:

[Reverend_HellH0und]

IHateAmerica wrote: Reverend_HellH0und wrote: Claudia Schiffer wrote: flamboyant wrote: I wonder if the conspiracy loons ever get an inkling of just how delusional their claims are and how much they're the laughing stock of the forum?

You guys are the laughing stock of the whole world. :roll: Weak up!

How did WT7 collapse????

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9184329400593634920&q=label%3Azionism

Wait! thsi guy knows how that happened. :wink:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNEoiOP76QQ&mode=related&search=





Try asking someone who was there. It is obvious to us.

Right, like in the other thread where you wrote your grandpappy liberated at Aushwitz? :lol:




He was one of the troops there and I watched and felt the towers fall.


Don't believe me? Don't care.

[IHateAmerica]

What unit was he with? Ill settle for the branch.

[homerjay_s]

Reverend_HellH0und wrote: Claudia Schiffer wrote: flamboyant wrote: I wonder if the conspiracy loons ever get an inkling of just how delusional their claims are and how much they're the laughing stock of the forum?

You guys are the laughing stock of the whole world. :roll: Weak up!

How did WT7 collapse????

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9184329400593634920&q=label%3Azionism

Wait! thsi guy knows how that happened. :wink:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNEoiOP76QQ&mode=related&search=





Try asking someone who was there. It is obvious to us.

Okay, assuming you were there, how exactly did Building 7 collapse?

Along that line of questioning, do you not also find it coincidental that the guy that owned building 7 had just signed a new 99 year lease on the towers and took out an insurance policy that paid him billions after the towers collapsed?

How about the fact the Marvin Bush, son of former president George HW Bush and brother of current president George W Bush, was a principle in the security company that handled security for both the towers and building 7?

Then there's the dubious lack of evidence to support the theory of a plane even hitting the pentagon. There was no plane debris at the site. The flight path to hit the building where they did would have required a highly advanced high degree turn that is highly doubtful that an inexperience pilot such as Hani Hanjour would have been able to make, particularly since the instructor where he practiced some flight training said that he had trouble handling a Cesna. Oh right, then there was the FBI confiscating surveillance video within minutes of the attack from private businesses that had shots of the impact, as of yet still un released in full.

Not to mention the fact that it is physically impossible for buildings to completely desintegrate to the point of a free fall collapse upon their own footpring simply by being hit by a plane, or in building 7's case, not being hit by anything at all.

[NAB]

homerjay_s wrote: Reverend_HellH0und wrote: Claudia Schiffer wrote: flamboyant wrote: I wonder if the conspiracy loons ever get an inkling of just how delusional their claims are and how much they're the laughing stock of the forum?

You guys are the laughing stock of the whole world. :roll: Weak up!

How did WT7 collapse????

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9184329400593634920&q=label%3Azionism

Wait! thsi guy knows how that happened. :wink:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNEoiOP76QQ&mode=related&search=





Try asking someone who was there. It is obvious to us.

Okay, assuming you were there, how exactly did Building 7 collapse?

Along that line of questioning, do you not also find it coincidental that the guy that owned building 7 had just signed a new 99 year lease on the towers and took out an insurance policy that paid him billions after the towers collapsed?

How about the fact the Marvin Bush, son of former president George HW Bush and brother of current president George W Bush, was a principle in the security company that handled security for both the towers and building 7?

Then there's the dubious lack of evidence to support the theory of a plane even hitting the pentagon. There was no plane debris at the site. The flight path to hit the building where they did would have required a highly advanced high degree turn that is highly doubtful that an inexperience pilot such as Hani Hanjour would have been able to make, particularly since the instructor where he practiced some flight training said that he had trouble handling a Cesna. Oh right, then there was the FBI confiscating surveillance video within minutes of the attack from private businesses that had shots of the impact, as of yet still un released in full.

Not to mention the fact that it is physically impossible for buildings to completely desintegrate to the point of a free fall collapse upon their own footpring simply by being hit by a plane, or in building 7's case, not being hit by anything at all.

Same talking points ad infinitum. Go over to the AT forum, because most of your points have been covered at some point. Whether you agree with them or not is up to you.

[Dookiestix]

How convEEEnient....

[homerjay_s]

NAB wrote: homerjay_s wrote: Reverend_HellH0und wrote: Claudia Schiffer wrote: flamboyant wrote: I wonder if the conspiracy loons ever get an inkling of just how delusional their claims are and how much they're the laughing stock of the forum?

You guys are the laughing stock of the whole world. :roll: Weak up!

How did WT7 collapse????

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9184329400593634920&q=label%3Azionism

Wait! thsi guy knows how that happened. :wink:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNEoiOP76QQ&mode=related&search=





Try asking someone who was there. It is obvious to us.

Okay, assuming you were there, how exactly did Building 7 collapse?

Along that line of questioning, do you not also find it coincidental that the guy that owned building 7 had just signed a new 99 year lease on the towers and took out an insurance policy that paid him billions after the towers collapsed?

How about the fact the Marvin Bush, son of former president George HW Bush and brother of current president George W Bush, was a principle in the security company that handled security for both the towers and building 7?

Then there's the dubious lack of evidence to support the theory of a plane even hitting the pentagon. There was no plane debris at the site. The flight path to hit the building where they did would have required a highly advanced high degree turn that is highly doubtful that an inexperience pilot such as Hani Hanjour would have been able to make, particularly since the instructor where he practiced some flight training said that he had trouble handling a Cesna. Oh right, then there was the FBI confiscating surveillance video within minutes of the attack from private businesses that had shots of the impact, as of yet still un released in full.

Not to mention the fact that it is physically impossible for buildings to completely desintegrate to the point of a free fall collapse upon their own footpring simply by being hit by a plane, or in building 7's case, not being hit by anything at all.

Same talking points ad infinitum. Go over to the AT forum, because most of your points have been covered at some point. Whether you agree with them or not is up to you.

The same talking points that get completely ignored by those that claim the conspiracy theories are all baseless. These points are relevant to the thread and the subsequent posts here in.

This issue is not going to go away.

The cons were in an uproar and feinding for a hunt when they thought for a second the Clintons were involved in a scandal that was a local Arkansas issue, yet they love to twist and evade and duck and cover when it comes to all the evidence that suggests 9/11 was an inside job, or at the least that the official story is complete bull s**t. You're not going to banish this subject to a theories forum, I didn't post anything that was a theory, I posted facts and asked people to explain them fitting into the official story, which is also just a conspiracy theory, by the way. The official story of the 9/11 commission is not absolute, it is theoretical and not one person has been charged according to their position. The only difference is who they claim to be the conspirators.

[NAB]

homerjay_s wrote: NAB wrote: homerjay_s wrote: Reverend_HellH0und wrote: Claudia Schiffer wrote: flamboyant wrote: I wonder if the conspiracy loons ever get an inkling of just how delusional their claims are and how much they're the laughing stock of the forum?

You guys are the laughing stock of the whole world. :roll: Weak up!

How did WT7 collapse????

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9184329400593634920&q=label%3Azionism

Wait! thsi guy knows how that happened. :wink:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNEoiOP76QQ&mode=related&search=





Try asking someone who was there. It is obvious to us.

Okay, assuming you were there, how exactly did Building 7 collapse?

Along that line of questioning, do you not also find it coincidental that the guy that owned building 7 had just signed a new 99 year lease on the towers and took out an insurance policy that paid him billions after the towers collapsed?

How about the fact the Marvin Bush, son of former president George HW Bush and brother of current president George W Bush, was a principle in the security company that handled security for both the towers and building 7?

Then there's the dubious lack of evidence to support the theory of a plane even hitting the pentagon. There was no plane debris at the site. The flight path to hit the building where they did would have required a highly advanced high degree turn that is highly doubtful that an inexperience pilot such as Hani Hanjour would have been able to make, particularly since the instructor where he practiced some flight training said that he had trouble handling a Cesna. Oh right, then there was the FBI confiscating surveillance video within minutes of the attack from private businesses that had shots of the impact, as of yet still un released in full.

Not to mention the fact that it is physically impossible for buildings to completely desintegrate to the point of a free fall collapse upon their own footpring simply by being hit by a plane, or in building 7's case, not being hit by anything at all.

Same talking points ad infinitum. Go over to the AT forum, because most of your points have been covered at some point. Whether you agree with them or not is up to you.

The same talking points that get completely ignored by those that claim the conspiracy theories are all baseless. These points are relevant to the thread and the subsequent posts here in.

This issue is not going to go away.

The cons were in an uproar and feinding for a hunt when they thought for a second the Clintons were involved in a scandal that was a local Arkansas issue, yet they love to twist and evade and duck and cover when it comes to all the evidence that suggests 9/11 was an inside job, or at the least that the official story is complete bull s**t. You're not going to banish this subject to a theories forum, I didn't post anything that was a theory, I posted facts and asked people to explain them fitting into the official story, which is also just a conspiracy theory, by the way. The official story of the 9/11 commission is not absolute, it is theoretical and not one person has been charged according to their position. The only difference is who they claim to be the conspirators.

No, READ what I said. Those same points have been covered in the AT forum. As in go look around and read the some of the counter-arguments to the CT. If you don't agree with them that's your prerogative. This stuff keeps getting put into continual re-set/start from scratch mode, and I'm pointing out that they've been talked about at length in the other forum. Fair enough?

[William Amos]

Why is this in the alternate realities thread ? I showed a news article stating a fact not some theory. This is a news story about Osama taking credit for 911.

No where is their some "theory" articulated

[Claudia Schiffer]

homerjay_s wrote: Reverend_HellH0und wrote: Claudia Schiffer wrote: flamboyant wrote: I wonder if the conspiracy loons ever get an inkling of just how delusional their claims are and how much they're the laughing stock of the forum?

You guys are the laughing stock of the whole world. :roll: Weak up!

How did WT7 collapse????

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9184329400593634920&q=label%3Azionism

Wait! thsi guy knows how that happened. :wink:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNEoiOP76QQ&mode=related&search=





Try asking someone who was there. It is obvious to us.

Okay, assuming you were there, how exactly did Building 7 collapse?

Along that line of questioning, do you not also find it coincidental that the guy that owned building 7 had just signed a new 99 year lease on the towers and took out an insurance policy that paid him billions after the towers collapsed?

How about the fact the Marvin Bush, son of former president George HW Bush and brother of current president George W Bush, was a principle in the security company that handled security for both the towers and building 7?

Then there's the dubious lack of evidence to support the theory of a plane even hitting the pentagon. There was no plane debris at the site. The flight path to hit the building where they did would have required a highly advanced high degree turn that is highly doubtful that an inexperience pilot such as Hani Hanjour would have been able to make, particularly since the instructor where he practiced some flight training said that he had trouble handling a Cesna. Oh right, then there was the FBI confiscating surveillance video within minutes of the attack from private businesses that had shots of the impact, as of yet still un released in full.

Not to mention the fact that it is physically impossible for buildings to completely desintegrate to the point of a free fall collapse upon their own footpring simply by being hit by a plane, or in building 7's case, not being hit by anything at all.

I'm afraid this guy doesn't have the proper trayning to answer these questions. :roll: ...But I'm sure our friend agent Patriot will come to the rescue reel soon. :wink:

[Rhoades]

William Amos wrote: Why is this in the alternate realities thread ? I showed a news article stating a fact not some theory. This is a news story about Osama taking credit for 911.

No where is their some "theory" articulated
heh, get used to it

[Rhoades]

Osama is CIA

[homerjay_s]

NAB wrote: homerjay_s wrote: NAB wrote: homerjay_s wrote: Reverend_HellH0und wrote: Claudia Schiffer wrote: flamboyant wrote: I wonder if the conspiracy loons ever get an inkling of just how delusional their claims are and how much they're the laughing stock of the forum?

You guys are the laughing stock of the whole world. :roll: Weak up!

How did WT7 collapse????

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9184329400593634920&q=label%3Azionism

Wait! thsi guy knows how that happened. :wink:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNEoiOP76QQ&mode=related&search=





Try asking someone who was there. It is obvious to us.

Okay, assuming you were there, how exactly did Building 7 collapse?

Along that line of questioning, do you not also find it coincidental that the guy that owned building 7 had just signed a new 99 year lease on the towers and took out an insurance policy that paid him billions after the towers collapsed?

How about the fact the Marvin Bush, son of former president George HW Bush and brother of current president George W Bush, was a principle in the security company that handled security for both the towers and building 7?

Then there's the dubious lack of evidence to support the theory of a plane even hitting the pentagon. There was no plane debris at the site. The flight path to hit the building where they did would have required a highly advanced high degree turn that is highly doubtful that an inexperience pilot such as Hani Hanjour would have been able to make, particularly since the instructor where he practiced some flight training said that he had trouble handling a Cesna. Oh right, then there was the FBI confiscating surveillance video within minutes of the attack from private businesses that had shots of the impact, as of yet still un released in full.

Not to mention the fact that it is physically impossible for buildings to completely desintegrate to the point of a free fall collapse upon their own footpring simply by being hit by a plane, or in building 7's case, not being hit by anything at all.

Same talking points ad infinitum. Go over to the AT forum, because most of your points have been covered at some point. Whether you agree with them or not is up to you.

The same talking points that get completely ignored by those that claim the conspiracy theories are all baseless. These points are relevant to the thread and the subsequent posts here in.

This issue is not going to go away.

The cons were in an uproar and feinding for a hunt when they thought for a second the Clintons were involved in a scandal that was a local Arkansas issue, yet they love to twist and evade and duck and cover when it comes to all the evidence that suggests 9/11 was an inside job, or at the least that the official story is complete bull s**t. You're not going to banish this subject to a theories forum, I didn't post anything that was a theory, I posted facts and asked people to explain them fitting into the official story, which is also just a conspiracy theory, by the way. The official story of the 9/11 commission is not absolute, it is theoretical and not one person has been charged according to their position. The only difference is who they claim to be the conspirators.

No, READ what I said. Those same points have been covered in the AT forum. As in go look around and read the some of the counter-arguments to the CT. If you don't agree with them that's your prerogative. This stuff keeps getting put into continual re-set/start from scratch mode, and I'm pointing out that they've been talked about at length in the other forum. Fair enough?

No, you READ what I said. I was responding to Reverend Houndy's post that Miss Schiffer should ask someone that was there. And so I did.

I have posted these and many other inconsistencies on this forum many times, and those that refuse to see the inconsistencies also refuse to address the facts of them at all...preferring to request a thread be moved or to merely brush it off as a conspiracy theory, which for some reason has become a way to invalidate just about anything.

[flamboyant]

Dookiestix wrote: How convEEEnient....



It is convenient if you compare reality with the contortionist exercises that the conspiracy delusionals have to twist themselves into to try to put together the semblance of a coherent theory.

It's also very telling - when confronted with the cold, hard reality that Osama met with the 9/11 hijackers, the best response you can get from the Bush-did-9/11 crowd is a two-word sarcastic reply.

[William Amos]

Yeah I guess in some peoples world 2 over 100 story buildings falling next to another building wouldnt cause damage to it enough to cause it to fall.

So if a tree falls in a conspiracy theorists forrests does it make a sound ? I mean other than whining.

[Claudia Schiffer]

William Amos wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060907/ap_on_re_mi_ea/al_jazeera_bin_laden_tape

Nice to place to rest all those silly conspiracy theories. Osama is showing more proof he did it

OK, i saw the news on tv and all i could see was a buch of guy wearing mask doing karate stutt. How those that constitut proof? :roll: They could be Israeli dammet...And they probably are cause these guys seemed way to good to be student turned into terrorist if you ask me.

Not to mention that this news just happen to come out a few days before the 911 aniversary. :roll:

William, i see you're still trying to sell that stupid war on terror crap. Is there anyway you could find something better to do please?..or could you tell your superior that we are not buying it? Thank you!

And here are some of the ''REEL'' threat we're facing. :wink: And that's just some of them...

Quote: WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD

1.2 MILLION: People in killed in road accidents EVERY YEAR.

430,000: Americans killed by cigarettes EVERY YEAR. (The equivalent of 9/11 repeated every two days forever.) Bush's response to a real threat? His election promise to stop the Justice Department's law suit against the tobacco industry.

400,000: Americans die each year from obesity (while much greater numbers around the world starve to death).

8,437: Civilians killed by US/UK attacks in Iraq in 2003.

3,800: Civilians killed by US/UK attacks in Afghanistan by 2002.

135,000: Deaths from cancer in UK alone EVERY YEAR

3 MILLION: Killed by HIV/AIDS in 2003.

780,000,000: People starving to death RIGHT NOW.

1.2 BILLION: People "living" on less than $1 a day.

513,000,000: Number of people without access to safe drinking water.

Next please!