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[Paladin]

I have mainly FOUR questions for Republicans about their Party and and FOUR for the Democrats about their Party. These questions (and views) come from a friend of mine whom I was talking to.
I haven’t put documented support.

Just want to see reactions to his thoughts on these subjects.

For the Republicans Party
-How is that this is the longest war and we’re still there?
-Bush’s Axis of Evil . Wanting a coalition of nation’s to help since no-one would he doesn’t do anything about it. He didn’t unilaterally act against the Axis.
-Bush is incompetent dealing with China and immigration (mexicans burning american flags in the USA protesting who knows what about immigration laws)

1.Immigration-Not enforcing the laws.
2.Iraq-not acting to win that war
3.Squander good will - People put republicans in legislature and executive but nothing has been accomplished such as: smaller gov’t; lower taxes; immigration;
also look at how each of the republicans pet projects get funded
4.Death Penalty in democratic country. How do explain killing is wrong but correct if under the law? How would you explain to a child?

How do you know the Iraqi’s are going to embrace freedom?
Carrying out war by following conventions rules. The insurgents follow no rules. 150,000 troops not enough under these circumstances
What prevents it from becoming similar to Iran or to South Vietnam, or become part of Iran? (Holy sites of Shiite’s are in Iraq)

For the Democrats Party

1.Comfortable undermining U.S. position in the world just to hurt Bush - When deciding what decision to make thought is “How can we hurt Bush?”
2.Immigration - No immigration platform b/c recieve tons of votes from immigrants; culture being watered down (or corrupted) by mexican society. Such as man over the woman and the ‘me, me, me’ attitude of Northern Mexico.
3.taxes - refuse to accept that lower taxes stimulate economy, deficit created by air line bail out and the War; yet revunue increases at amazing rate after tax cuts?
4.patronizing of the black community. if you’re black you don’t have responsibility. become ward of the state affirmative action. 5/8 of black babies born out of wed-lock who’s fault is it? White man. 6 times as many violent crimes by black people than white. Who’s fault ? White people.
patronizing of gays also - all about sex - Gays don’t have organizations to help schools or this or that. Gay organizations are only about sex and having the right to have sex a different way; this does not make you a community.

[agentkgb]

Paladin wrote: patronizing of gays also - all about sex - Gays don’t have organizations to help schools or this or that. Gay organizations are only about sex and having the right to have sex a different way; this does not make you a community.
Is that a joke? Please say yes. Gay rights groups aren't like that. They, for one thing, support equal marriage rights.

[bigstick61]

No, they seek an alteration of the longstanding definition of marriage. Two men or women in a Union is not marriage.

[Paladin]

agentkgb wrote: Paladin wrote: patronizing of gays also - all about sex - Gays don’t have organizations to help schools or this or that. Gay organizations are only about sex and having the right to have sex a different way; this does not make you a community.
Is that a joke? Please say yes. Gay rights groups aren't like that. They, for one thing, support equal marriage rights.

btw, I'm arguing an interposed argument from my friend's thoughts.

Being gay is not about the rights of an individual to love. It is based carnally off the right to sex as one pleases. Families are based off raising offspring and have organizations accordingly. Minorities (not just racial) fight for rights of equality and have organizations accordingly. Gays fight for the right of sex and have organizations accordingly. Their organizations, such as marriage rights groups, fight to claim rights that families have now such as tax benefits. Families are a time proven basis for societal growth while gay relationships are not. The organizations have their source from sex preference, hence the word gay; a very different lobbying organization...

Again this is a stir up subject. I want people to rage arguments and counter-arguments. This isn't a tirade nor is it begging for tirades, I want to see people's responses to these broad subjects.

[agentkgb]

Paladin wrote: agentkgb wrote: Paladin wrote: patronizing of gays also - all about sex - Gays don’t have organizations to help schools or this or that. Gay organizations are only about sex and having the right to have sex a different way; this does not make you a community.
Is that a joke? Please say yes. Gay rights groups aren't like that. They, for one thing, support equal marriage rights.

btw, I'm arguing an interposed argument from my friend's thoughts.

Being gay is not about the rights of an individual to love. It is based carnally off the right to sex as one pleases. Families are based off raising offspring and have organizations accordingly. Minorities (not just racial) fight for rights of equality and have organizations accordingly. Gays fight for the right of sex and have organizations accordingly. Their organizations, such as marriage rights groups, fight to claim rights that families have now such as tax benefits. Families are a time proven basis for societal growth while gay relationships are not. The organizations have their source from sex preference, hence the word gay; a very different lobbying organization...

Again this is a stir up subject. I want people to rage arguments and counter-arguments. This isn't a tirade nor is it begging for tirades, I want to see people's responses to these broad subjects.
First, gay might also mean gay marriage. Second, it would be logical to post each of these questions in the appropriate forum instead of having a thread like this, so I'm not arguing the gay rights issue here.

[Paladin]

agentkgb wrote:
First, gay might also mean gay marriage. Second, it would be logical to post each of these questions in the appropriate forum instead of having a thread like this, so I'm not arguing the gay rights issue here.

goodbye, then.