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David Kelly



Joined: 14 Jun 2006
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:47 pm    Post subject:  

Fidel, not my favorite. Still, up there. Once you stop looking at the propaganda and look at the facts he's a pretty good guy. Now his bro is another thing.

My favorite is a 3-way tie. Genghis Khan, Alexander and Jesus.
By the way, the slave thing about the Jews in Egypt is just Jewish propaganda. In fact they ruled over the Egyptians and enslaved them. On day they revolted and after decades of civil war the Jews were forced out and committed genocide so as to have no contenders in Canaan, now Israel.
I'm not anti-Jew, just a historical side note.
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DavidXV



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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:47 pm    Post subject:  

I agree with psholtz, no one has had as much impact on the world as Jesus has, and while He continues to increase His mark on civilization, no one else can ever come close to matching it. Resistance is futile!
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TheKrava



Joined: 05 Feb 2006
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:50 pm    Post subject:  

Adolf Hitler was the best leader humanity had ever known.

He raised Germany from s**t.
He built its army and society.
He was such a leader that entire country followed him.

The only problem Hitler had is his ideology.
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rye



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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:51 pm    Post subject:  

It was the Romans that greatly increased the influence of Jesus. And wars in his name.

Seriously, he was the leader of like 12 people.
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ramashkagromik



Joined: 10 Jul 2006
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Location: Kiev

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:52 pm    Post subject:  

DavidXV wrote: I agree with psholtz, no one has had as much impact on the world as Jesus has, and while He continues to increase His mark on civilization, no one else can ever come close to matching it. Resistance is futile!

haha, tell that to the communists...

Quote: Fidel, not my favorite. Still, up there. Once you stop looking at the propaganda and look at the facts he's a pretty good guy. Now his bro is another thing.

I know, fidel IS not That bad, by statistsics he ias "awesome" buy many people choose to differ, and by many i mean 99% of americans
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David Kelly



Joined: 14 Jun 2006
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:52 pm    Post subject:  

TheKrava wrote: Adolf Hitler was the best leader humanity had ever known.

He raised Germany from s**t.
He built its army and society.
He was such a leader that entire country followed him.

The only problem Hitler had is his ideology.

Agreed, I don't agree with his politics, but he is my stand alone 2nd Place pick and 1st Place Best Military Leader pick.
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David Kelly



Joined: 14 Jun 2006
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:55 pm    Post subject:  

ramashkagromik wrote: DavidXV wrote: I agree with psholtz, no one has had as much impact on the world as Jesus has, and while He continues to increase His mark on civilization, no one else can ever come close to matching it. Resistance is futile!

haha, tell that to the communists...

Quote: Fidel, not my favorite. Still, up there. Once you stop looking at the propaganda and look at the facts he's a pretty good guy. Now his bro is another thing.

I know, fidel IS not That bad, by statistsics he ias "awesome" buy many people choose to differ, and by many i mean 99% of americans

Of about 75% of the people I've talked to, Fidel is ranked as the only true communist leader to ever exist. Note communist in place of Communist.
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William Amos



Joined: 03 Nov 2004
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 8:07 pm    Post subject:  

superchick wrote: psholtz wrote: I'm going to go w/ Jesus of Nazareth.. 2nd. I can't think of a more influential man on earth.

In my beliefs Jesus is the son of God and therefor isnt of mankind
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ramashkagromik



Joined: 10 Jul 2006
Posts: 233
Location: Kiev

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 8:28 pm    Post subject:  

David Kelly wrote: ramashkagromik wrote: DavidXV wrote: I agree with psholtz, no one has had as much impact on the world as Jesus has, and while He continues to increase His mark on civilization, no one else can ever come close to matching it. Resistance is futile!

haha, tell that to the communists...

Quote: Fidel, not my favorite. Still, up there. Once you stop looking at the propaganda and look at the facts he's a pretty good guy. Now his bro is another thing.

I know, fidel IS not That bad, by statistsics he ias "awesome" buy many people choose to differ, and by many i mean 99% of americans

Of about 75% of the people I've talked to, Fidel is ranked as the only true communist leader to ever exist. Note communist in place of Communist.

i don't see you point, notice how i say "your" and no "Your"
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Brother Jake



Joined: 27 Mar 2006
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:04 pm    Post subject:  

William Amos wrote: superchick wrote: psholtz wrote: I'm going to go w/ Jesus of Nazareth.. 2nd. I can't think of a more influential man on earth.

In my beliefs Jesus is the son of God and therefor isnt of mankind
Alien?
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Shady



Joined: 13 Oct 2005
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Location: VA

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:13 pm    Post subject:  

superchick wrote: ramashkagromik wrote: superchick wrote: psholtz wrote: I'm going to go w/ Jesus of Nazareth.. 2nd. I can't think of a more influential man on earth.

its biblia for biblia's sake, you can't compare REAL and "REAL" ? Are you saying Jesus was not a real man? You do realize how ridiculous that is right? Do you not believe anyone in history existed? We could debate wether or not he was the son of God, or the messiah, but if he existed is accepted by most except for anti-Christianity extremists.

Well if you take away his godlike powers and look at it from a historical perspective it was actually Peter and Paul that did most of the work in spreading Christianity, and it was ultimately Constantine that made it a major religion.
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Akage



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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:34 pm    Post subject:  

rene levesque
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Shady



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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:37 pm    Post subject:  

David Kelly wrote: TheKrava wrote: Adolf Hitler was the best leader humanity had ever known.

He raised Germany from s**t.
He built its army and society.
He was such a leader that entire country followed him.

The only problem Hitler had is his ideology.

Agreed, I don't agree with his politics, but he is my stand alone 2nd Place pick and 1st Place Best Military Leader pick.

Hitler was a horrible military leader. In fact his military ineptitude and obsession over the Eastern front ended up with him firing his top generals and probably costing Germany the war.
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Akage



Joined: 20 Aug 2006
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:41 pm    Post subject:  

Mod Edit..... I DONT THINK SO!.. we will have none of that here...Thrilla
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Shady



Joined: 13 Oct 2005
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Location: VA

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:50 pm    Post subject:  

Wow that wasn't anti-semitic.
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Jim Nightshade



Joined: 05 Jul 2006
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Greatest leader in history of humans...  

ramashkagromik wrote: Who do you think was the greatest leader in history time?
please i am very curious

My pick would be, believe it or not, Fidel Castro


Right...in the same vein....






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psholtz



Joined: 15 Feb 2004
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Location: California

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:59 pm    Post subject:  

William Amos wrote: superchick wrote: psholtz wrote: I'm going to go w/ Jesus of Nazareth.. 2nd. I can't think of a more influential man on earth.

In my beliefs Jesus is the son of God and therefor isnt of mankind
Check:

* Pslams 82:6
* Hosea 1:10
* John 10:34
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sLiPpY



Joined: 24 Nov 2004
Posts: 9661

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:28 pm    Post subject:  

psholtz wrote: William Amos wrote: superchick wrote: psholtz wrote: I'm going to go w/ Jesus of Nazareth.. 2nd. I can't think of a more influential man on earth.

In my beliefs Jesus is the son of God and therefor isnt of mankind
Check:

* Pslams 82:6
* Hosea 1:10
* John 10:34

I almost responded to this post with similar verse, and/or statement.

It's kind of sad that even a non-believer like meh' can see these things. :lol:
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Thrilla



Joined: 23 May 2005
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Location: Sin City

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:34 pm    Post subject:  

my personal favorite would be Leonidas
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ramashkagromik



Joined: 10 Jul 2006
Posts: 233
Location: Kiev

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:46 pm    Post subject:  

Thrilla wrote: my personal favorite would be Leonidas

hmm, Leonidas, i had to read up on that, unusual choice, his head got caught off in the battle he went knowing that doom was near, hmm.... +p
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