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jimmyz
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Rankor and Pissing wrote: mr_happy wrote: skippy, its implied.
To the thread starter go to 1000 AD and then compare Jews and Muslims.....Muslims win.
What's the prize? What do they win?
A new pair of sandals and the use of a goat for one year. |
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jimmyz
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Why cannot our fellow "anti's" here admit that for the last 1400 or so years that there has been a stagnation of the Arab mind.And that Islam and its outdated use of Koranic law in the face of the renaissance of the western mind has produced a whole population of ignorance to progressive human rights and enlightenment.
Islam has effectively shut out half its own brain power by delivering Muslim women to second class status limiting the Muslim woman's participation in its society.
Look at what a young male learns at a Madrassa.He regurgitates verse after verse of the quran but would be able to tell you diddly about anything else.
"I'm a third-worlder","we are poor",etc,etc...Bull$hyte! You swallow what the beards tell you on Fridays so that they(the imams) stay in power.The beards no longer want you to think for yourselves any more than they want to preach peace instead of jihad. |
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antonio62
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jimmyz wrote: Why cannot our fellow "anti's" here admit that for the last 1400 or so years that there has been a stagnation of the Arab mind.And that Islam and its outdated use of Koranic law in the face of the renaissance of the western mind has produced a whole population of ignorance to progressive human rights and enlightenment.
Islam has effectively shut out half its own brain power by delivering Muslim women to second class status limiting the Muslim woman's participation in its society.
Look at what a young male learns at a Madrassa.He regurgitates verse after verse of the quran but would be able to tell you diddly about anything else.
"I'm a third-worlder","we are poor",etc,etc...Bull$hyte! You swallow what the beards tell you on Fridays so that they(the imams) stay in power.The beards no longer want you to think for yourselves any more than they want to preach peace instead of jihad.
If it wasn't for Islam the reinassance would have been a very different. We would be much less advanced because a lot of the knowledge used in the reinassance came from Islam either as preservation of Greek, Indian, Roman and Persian knowledge much of which they advanced or by there own advances. |
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patton449
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programmusic wrote: skinn wrote: Wyatt Earp wrote: Interesting:
Global Islamic population is approximately 1,200,000,000, or 20% of the
world population...
They have received the following Nobel Prizes:
Literature:
1988 - Najib Mahfooz.
Peace:
1978 - Mohamed Anwar El-Sadat
1994 - Yaser Arafat
Physics:
1990 - Elias James Corey
1999 - Ahmed Zewail
Medicine:
1960 - Peter Brian Medawar
1998 - Ferid Mourad
you can add this one to the jewish population :rotf:
Are you saying making peace is not a muslim thing to do?
What a ridiculous post that was.
making peace is not a muslim thing to do, History has proven that. There is no other religon on earth were a giant holy war has been declared on another religon and IS CURRENTLY being fought. I capitalized "IS CURRENTLY" because of the fact that at one time the Christians were in a giant holy war against the muslims, the crusades. But that was along time ago. Since then the christian faith has grown up and become more civilized. Also when the christians went to war with the muslims in the crusades, the muslims did not try to have any peace talks or negotiate, like America is trying to do now with the Islamic fundamentalists and enemy arab states. When the Christians invaded, the muslims just said "sure **** it will fight the Christians. Their have been many holy wars and killings in the name of god and because of god in the past, the romans feed the christians to the lions, the spanish inqusition, the crusades, the holocost, and so on. But those countries and cultures have since evolved and grown into more civilized states. Right now the only major holy war that is being fought is the Muslim Jihad against the "infidels" the judeo-christian world and all non muslims. I think that the judeo-christian world should fight the Islamic Jihad with a judeo Sarcalogos sanctus bellum obviam Insula. For those of you that don't know latin it meens jewish christian holy war against islam. We tryied negotiating with them, basically all we get from them is JIHAD JIHAD DEATH TO THE INFIDELS. Negotiations and diplomacy doesn't work. We are rebuilding Iraq and setting up a government and essentially making them a whole new country free of charge on American and British tax dollars, and what do they do, shoot at us from hospitals, and run cars full of explosives at are troops. Then their are the ones like Al-quaeda that blow up buildings over here. They killed inecent civilians for no reason. I don't know of any large christian or jewish extremist groups that have done anything like that to an Islamic country. This is the same problem that we have had for ever. Europe can't control the muslims. Now Israel and America have been added into the equation. Now we have the power to finish this age old war and I think the judeo-christian world should before the islamic extremist do something really terrible like detonate a nuke in New York or London. I'm not even an American and I think that America should be more aggressive with the Terrorists and Islamic extremist states. This whole terrorist thing has seriously made me consider moving back to Italia. |
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jimmyz
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antonio62 wrote: jimmyz wrote: Why cannot our fellow "anti's" here admit that for the last 1400 or so years that there has been a stagnation of the Arab mind.And that Islam and its outdated use of Koranic law in the face of the renaissance of the western mind has produced a whole population of ignorance to progressive human rights and enlightenment.
Islam has effectively shut out half its own brain power by delivering Muslim women to second class status limiting the Muslim woman's participation in its society.
Look at what a young male learns at a Madrassa.He regurgitates verse after verse of the quran but would be able to tell you diddly about anything else.
"I'm a third-worlder","we are poor",etc,etc...Bull$hyte! You swallow what the beards tell you on Fridays so that they(the imams) stay in power.The beards no longer want you to think for yourselves any more than they want to preach peace instead of jihad.
If it wasn't for Islam the reinassance would have been a very different. We would be much less advanced because a lot of the knowledge used in the reinassance came from Islam either as preservation of Greek, Indian, Roman and Persian knowledge much of which they advanced or by there own advances.
Got any proof or links?
By the way I said, Quote: Islam and its outdated use of Koranic law in the face of the renaissance of the western mind has produced a whole population of ignorance to progressive human rights and enlightenment.
No where did I mention the European Renaissance.Great,Persians invented the concept of zero and made some astrological observations.What else?! |
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antonio62
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jimmyz wrote: Got any proof or links?
http://www-history.mcs.st-and.ac.uk/HistTopics/Arabic_mathematics.html
There would be a start.
Quote: By the way I said, Quote: Islam and its outdated use of Koranic law in the face of the renaissance of the western mind has produced a whole population of ignorance to progressive human rights and enlightenment.
No where did I mention the European Renaissance.Great,Persians invented the concept of zero and made some astrological observations.What else?!
I brought it up because you claimed Islam had produced nothing of worth for the last 1400 years. |
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jimmyz
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antonio62 wrote: jimmyz wrote: Got any proof or links?
http://www-history.mcs.st-and.ac.uk/HistTopics/Arabic_mathematics.html
There would be a start.
Quote: By the way I said, Quote: Islam and its outdated use of Koranic law in the face of the renaissance of the western mind has produced a whole population of ignorance to progressive human rights and enlightenment.
No where did I mention the European Renaissance.Great,Persians invented the concept of zero and made some astrological observations.What else?!
I brought it up because you claimed Islam had produced nothing of worth for the last 1400 years.
Quote: I brought it up because you claimed Islam had produced nothing of worth for the last 1400 years.
Please,don't put words in my mouth.This is my exact quote, Quote: Why cannot our fellow "anti's" here admit that for the last 1400 or so years that there has been a stagnation of the Arab mind
The Arab caliphate was built on conquest and therefore stood on the shoulders of the previous knowledge of those conquered.
I am more concerned with the lack of inventiveness and contribution to human and civil rights that is pervasive in the Arab mind |
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antonio62
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jimmyz wrote: The Arab caliphate was built on conquest and therefore stood on the shoulders of the previous knowledge of those conquered.
Yes they did and developed huge amounts of knowldge and advanced the knowledge they took over.
Quote: I am more concerned with the lack of inventiveness and contribution to human and civil rights that is pervasive in the Arab mind
What lack of invetiveness? Did you read the link I gave you? |
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jimmyz
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antonio62 wrote: jimmyz wrote: The Arab caliphate was built on conquest and therefore stood on the shoulders of the previous knowledge of those conquered.
Yes they did and developed huge amounts of knowldge and advanced the knowledge they took over.
Quote: I am more concerned with the lack of inventiveness and contribution to human and civil rights that is pervasive in the Arab mind
What lack of invetiveness? Did you read the link I gave you?
Yes I did read the link.And I appreciate their work in advancing algebra and making translations preserving much knowledge that might have been lost otherwise.But that was 1000 years ago.
I have a problem with contemporary Middle Eastern culture and its contributions to the world in which we live...now. |
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antonio62
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jimmyz wrote: Yes I did read the link.And I appreciate their work in advancing algebra and making translations preserving much knowledge that might have been lost otherwise.But that was 1000 years ago.
I have a problem with contemporary Middle Eastern culture and its contributions to the world in which we live...now.
It happened up to 500 years ago actually. The culture hasn't changed much since then and then it contributed huge amounts to the modern world. |
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Claudia Schiffer
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| Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 1:03 pm Post subject: Re: Interesting |
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Wyatt Earp wrote: Interesting:
Global Islamic population is approximately 1,200,000,000, or 20% of the
world population...
They have received the following Nobel Prizes:
Literature:
1988 - Najib Mahfooz.
Peace:
1978 - Mohamed Anwar El-Sadat
1994 - Yaser Arafat
Physics:
1990 - Elias James Corey
1999 - Ahmed Zewail
Medicine:
1960 - Peter Brian Medawar
1998 - Ferid Mourad
Global Jewish population is approximately 14,000,000, or about 00.02% of
the world population...
They have received the following Nobel Prizes:
Literature:
1910 - Paul Heyse
1927 - Henri Bergson
1958 - Boris Pasternak
1966 - Shmuel Yosef Agnon
1966 - Nelly Sachs
1976 - Saul Bellow
1978 - Isaac Bashevis Singer
1981 - Elias Canetti
1987 - Joseph Brodsky
1991 - Nadine Gordimer World
Peace:
1911 - Alfred Fried
1911 - Tobias Michael Carel Asser
1968 - Rene Cassin
1973 - Henry Kissinger
1978 - Menachem Begin
1986 - Elie Wiesel
1994 - Shimon Peres
1994 - Yitzhak Rabin
Physics:
1905 - Adolph Von Baeyer
1906 - Henri Moissan
1907 - Albert Abraham Michelson
1908 - Gabriel Lippmann
1910 - Otto Wallach
1915 - Richard Willstaetter
1918 - Fritz Haber
1921 - Albert Einstein
1922 - Niels Bohr
1925 - James Franck
1925 - Gustav Hertz
1943 - Gustav Stern
1943 - George Charles de Hevesy
1944 - Isidor Issac Rabi
1952 - Felix Bloch
1954 - Max Born
1958 - Igor Tamm
1959 - Emilio Segre
1960 - Donald A. Glaser
1961 - Robert Hofstadte r
1961 - Melvin Calvin
1962 - Lev Davidovich Landau
1962 - Max Ferdinand Perutz
1965 - Richard Phillips Feynman
1965 - Julian Schwinger
1969 - Murray Gell-Mann
1971 - Dennis Gabor
1972 - William Howard Stein
1973 - Brian David Josephson
1975 - Benjamin Mottleson
1976 - Burton Richter
1977 - Ilya Prigogine
1978 - Arno Allan Penzias
1978 - Peter L Kapitza
1979 - Stephen Weinberg
1979 - Sheldon Glashow
1979 - Herbert Charle s Brown
1980 - Paul Berg
1980 - Walter Gilbert
1981 - Roald Hoffmann
1982 - Aaron Klug
1985 - Albert A. Hauptman
1985 - Jerome Karle
1986 - Dudley R. Herschbach
1988 - Robert Huber
1988 - Leon Lederman
1988 - Melvin Schwartz
1988 - Jack Steinberger
1989 - Sidney Altman
1990 - Jerome Friedman
&nbs p;1992 - Rudolph Marcus
1995 - Martin Perl
2000 - Alan J. Heeger
Economics:
1970 - Paul Anthony Samuelson
1971 - Simon Kuznets
1972 - Kenneth Joseph Arrow
1975 - Leonid Kantorovich
1976 - Milton Friedman
1978 - Herbert A. Simon
1980 - Lawrence Robert Klein
1985 - Franco Modigliani
1987 - Robert M. Solow
1990 - Harry Markowitz
1990 - Merton Miller
1992 - Gary Becker
1993 - Robert Fogel
Medicine:
1908 - Elie Metchnikoff
1908 - Paul Erlich
1914 - Robert Barany
1922 - Otto Meyerhof
1930 - Karl Landsteiner
1931 - Otto Warburg
1936 - Otto Loewi
1944 - Joseph Erlanger
1944 - Herbert Spencer Gasser
1945 - Ernst Boris Chain
1946 - Hermann Joseph Muller
1950 - Tadeus Reichstein
1952 - Selman Abra ham Waksman
1 953 - Hans Krebs
1953 - Fritz Albert Lipmann
1958 - Joshua Lederberg
1959 - Art hur Ko rnberg
1964 - Konrad Bloch
1965 - Francois Jacob
1965 - Andre Lwoff
1967 - George Wald
1968 - Marshall W. Nirenberg
1969 - Salvador Luria
1970 - Julius Axelrod
1970 - Sir Bernard Katz
1972 - Gerald Maurice Edelman
1975 - Howard Martin Temin
1976 - Baruch S. Blumberg
1977 - Roselyn Sussman Yalow
1978 - Daniel Nathans
1980 - Baruj Benacerraf
1984 - Cesar Milstein
1985 - Michael Stuart Brown
1985 - Joseph L. Goldstein
1986 - Stanley Cohen (& Rita Levi-Montalcini)
1988 - Gertrude Elion
1989 - Harold Varmus
1991 - Erwin Neher
1991 - Bert Sakmann
1993 - Richard J. Roberts
1993 - Phillip Sharp
1994 - Alfred Gilman
1995 - Edward B. Lewis
That's only because the Jewis lobby is very powerfull, that all. :wink: |
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thatisnotme
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| Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:39 pm Post subject: Re: Interesting |
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Claudia Schiffer wrote:
That's only because the Jewis lobby is very powerfull, that all. :wink:
They control the world, don't you know that... |
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maalox
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| mod edit... trolling will NOT be tolerated..Thrilla |
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nrhy
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maalox wrote: mod edit... trolling will NOT be tolerated..Thrilla
...yo nico, please ban this guy? |
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Pareve
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Rankor and Pissing wrote: mr_happy wrote: skippy, its implied.
To the thread starter go to 1000 AD and then compare Jews and Muslims.....Muslims win.
What's the prize? What do they win?
Pie? |
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Pareve
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| Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 10:08 pm Post subject: Re: Interesting |
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Claudia Schiffer wrote: Wyatt Earp wrote: Interesting:
Global Islamic population is approximately 1,200,000,000, or 20% of the
world population...
They have received the following Nobel Prizes:
Literature:
1988 - Najib Mahfooz.
Peace:
1978 - Mohamed Anwar El-Sadat
1994 - Yaser Arafat
Physics:
1990 - Elias James Corey
1999 - Ahmed Zewail
Medicine:
1960 - Peter Brian Medawar
1998 - Ferid Mourad
Global Jewish population is approximately 14,000,000, or about 00.02% of
the world population...
They have received the following Nobel Prizes:
Literature:
1910 - Paul Heyse
1927 - Henri Bergson
1958 - Boris Pasternak
1966 - Shmuel Yosef Agnon
1966 - Nelly Sachs
1976 - Saul Bellow
1978 - Isaac Bashevis Singer
1981 - Elias Canetti
1987 - Joseph Brodsky
1991 - Nadine Gordimer World
Peace:
1911 - Alfred Fried
1911 - Tobias Michael Carel Asser
1968 - Rene Cassin
1973 - Henry Kissinger
1978 - Menachem Begin
1986 - Elie Wiesel
1994 - Shimon Peres
1994 - Yitzhak Rabin
Physics:
1905 - Adolph Von Baeyer
1906 - Henri Moissan
1907 - Albert Abraham Michelson
1908 - Gabriel Lippmann
1910 - Otto Wallach
1915 - Richard Willstaetter
1918 - Fritz Haber
1921 - Albert Einstein
1922 - Niels Bohr
1925 - James Franck
1925 - Gustav Hertz
1943 - Gustav Stern
1943 - George Charles de Hevesy
1944 - Isidor Issac Rabi
1952 - Felix Bloch
1954 - Max Born
1958 - Igor Tamm
1959 - Emilio Segre
1960 - Donald A. Glaser
1961 - Robert Hofstadte r
1961 - Melvin Calvin
1962 - Lev Davidovich Landau
1962 - Max Ferdinand Perutz
1965 - Richard Phillips Feynman
1965 - Julian Schwinger
1969 - Murray Gell-Mann
1971 - Dennis Gabor
1972 - William Howard Stein
1973 - Brian David Josephson
1975 - Benjamin Mottleson
1976 - Burton Richter
1977 - Ilya Prigogine
1978 - Arno Allan Penzias
1978 - Peter L Kapitza
1979 - Stephen Weinberg
1979 - Sheldon Glashow
1979 - Herbert Charle s Brown
1980 - Paul Berg
1980 - Walter Gilbert
1981 - Roald Hoffmann
1982 - Aaron Klug
1985 - Albert A. Hauptman
1985 - Jerome Karle
1986 - Dudley R. Herschbach
1988 - Robert Huber
1988 - Leon Lederman
1988 - Melvin Schwartz
1988 - Jack Steinberger
1989 - Sidney Altman
1990 - Jerome Friedman
&nbs p;1992 - Rudolph Marcus
1995 - Martin Perl
2000 - Alan J. Heeger
Economics:
1970 - Paul Anthony Samuelson
1971 - Simon Kuznets
1972 - Kenneth Joseph Arrow
1975 - Leonid Kantorovich
1976 - Milton Friedman
1978 - Herbert A. Simon
1980 - Lawrence Robert Klein
1985 - Franco Modigliani
1987 - Robert M. Solow
1990 - Harry Markowitz
1990 - Merton Miller
1992 - Gary Becker
1993 - Robert Fogel
Medicine:
1908 - Elie Metchnikoff
1908 - Paul Erlich
1914 - Robert Barany
1922 - Otto Meyerhof
1930 - Karl Landsteiner
1931 - Otto Warburg
1936 - Otto Loewi
1944 - Joseph Erlanger
1944 - Herbert Spencer Gasser
1945 - Ernst Boris Chain
1946 - Hermann Joseph Muller
1950 - Tadeus Reichstein
1952 - Selman Abra ham Waksman
1 953 - Hans Krebs
1953 - Fritz Albert Lipmann
1958 - Joshua Lederberg
1959 - Art hur Ko rnberg
1964 - Konrad Bloch
1965 - Francois Jacob
1965 - Andre Lwoff
1967 - George Wald
1968 - Marshall W. Nirenberg
1969 - Salvador Luria
1970 - Julius Axelrod
1970 - Sir Bernard Katz
1972 - Gerald Maurice Edelman
1975 - Howard Martin Temin
1976 - Baruch S. Blumberg
1977 - Roselyn Sussman Yalow
1978 - Daniel Nathans
1980 - Baruj Benacerraf
1984 - Cesar Milstein
1985 - Michael Stuart Brown
1985 - Joseph L. Goldstein
1986 - Stanley Cohen (& Rita Levi-Montalcini)
1988 - Gertrude Elion
1989 - Harold Varmus
1991 - Erwin Neher
1991 - Bert Sakmann
1993 - Richard J. Roberts
1993 - Phillip Sharp
1994 - Alfred Gilman
1995 - Edward B. Lewis
That's only because the Jewis lobby is very powerfull, that all. :wink:
Right... It couldn't possibly be because those people actually did things worthy of winning Nobel Prizes! |
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Blinky
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thatisnotme wrote: mr_happy wrote: skippy, its implied.
To the thread starter go to 1000 AD and then compare Jews and Muslims.....Muslims win.
This is 2006 AD, not 1000 AD. Just in case, you hadn't noticed... :?
Exactly.
This seems to be the problem doesn't it? A good proportion of the Islamic world wishes to conduct itself as if it were 1000 AD. They are condemning their subsequent generations to poverty, ignorance and being left further and further behind the rest of the world.
Let them dig their own graves if they want to, I say. |
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Tepic
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I don't think it has anything to do with race or religion, but rather freedom and enlightenment. During the middle ages the Muslim world was in general more enlightened than the west, so that's where the science happened. During the twentieth century, though, the west - and America in particular - blazed the way in discovery and research. America has a bigger Jewish minority than Muslim one, so fewer Muslims had a chance to participate in this.
I expect this situation to change with time, with Europe and Asia possibly overshadowing American research in the future, and large Muslim minorities forming in Europe.
Claudia Schiffer wrote: That's only because the Jewis lobby is very powerfull, that all. :wink:
Sorry to resurrect Godwin at this time of day, but that sounds awfully like the Nazi concept of 'Jew science' ... the idea that someone like Richard Feynman who was a major force in developing Quantum Electrodynamics and whose recorded lectures are still sought after today, won a Nobel Prize because of the (American, although the Nobel physics prize is awarded by the Swedish Academy of Sciences) 'Jewis lobby' seems just a tad twisted... |
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