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Wyatt Earp



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Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 1:54 pm    Post subject: Pro-gravity people who say it is a fact have no proof  

I have been reading here on these sites who say that anti-global warming people have no proof, I have been reading in other room's that pro- evolution people have no proof well some one please prove to me there is something called gravity, why don't you give it up and admit there is no proof of gravity.

Warning:
Gravity is "Only a Theory"

by Ellery Schempp

All physics textbooks should include this warning label: This textbook contains material on Gravity. Universal Gravity is a theory, not a fact, regarding the natural law of attraction. This material should be approached with an open mind, studied carefully, and critically considered.

The Universal Theory of Gravity is often taught in schools as a "fact," when in fact it is not even a good theory.

First of all, no one has measured gravity for every atom and every star. It is simply a religious belief that it is "universal." Secondly, school textbooks routinely make false statements. For example, "the moon goes around the earth." If the theory of gravity were true, it would show that the sun's gravitational force on the moon is much stronger than the earth's gravitational force on the moon, so the moon has to go around the sun. Anybody can look up at night and see the obvious gaps in gravity theory.

http://www.machineslikeus.com/articles/WarningGravityIs.html
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LostSoul3412



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Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 2:20 pm    Post subject:  

Gravity doesn't exist, the world just s*cks.
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Gremlin



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Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 5:19 pm    Post subject:  

science is almost all theory... i hypothesize you have no clue of what your talking about.


Let us see if my assumtion is true. :wink:
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Citizendave



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Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 5:25 pm    Post subject:  

Quote: science is almost all theory

can you prove that.
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bob.appleyard



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Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 6:03 pm    Post subject:  

Gravity is a social construct, I have my friend Alan Sokal to thank for that little corker.

http://www.physics.nyu.edu/faculty/sokal/transgress_v2/transgress_v2_singlefile.html

Hehehehehe
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anselfir



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Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 10:40 am    Post subject:  

although you observe stuff falling down, to call it gravity is still another matter altogether.
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ieatfood



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Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:00 am    Post subject:  

look, this is ridiculous

the law of gravity is different from the theory of gravity

the law of gravity is simply an observation of reality

the law of gravity states that two objects are attracted to each other with a force proportional to the product of their masses and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them


that is simply an observation that is true only becuase every time we test it, that is what we find

the theory of gravity is an attempt to explain the mechanism behind this attraction. there are many proofs for different mechanisms, but they are far too complex for non-physicists to understand.
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anselfir



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Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:07 am    Post subject:  

aye aye
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AceKingQueenJack



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Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 5:25 pm    Post subject:  

I have proof - pick up your computer mouse and let go. If it falls then theres your proof, if it doesnt, than i sincerely apologize.
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Babylon_Horuv



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Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:57 pm    Post subject:  

ieatfood wrote: look, this is ridiculous

the law of gravity is different from the theory of gravity

the law of gravity is simply an observation of reality

the law of gravity states that two objects are attracted to each other with a force proportional to the product of their masses and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them


that is simply an observation that is true only becuase every time we test it, that is what we find

the theory of gravity is an attempt to explain the mechanism behind this attraction. there are many proofs for different mechanisms, but they are far too complex for non-physicists to understand.

The law of gravity has only been proven on a local scale. Any assumptions about its effect on a universal scale are purely hypotheses based on locally available evidence. They also appear to predict a different universe than we actually observe which is why astro-physicists have postulated the existance of "dark matter" to force the observed universe to conform to the law of gravity.
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The Grandmaster



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Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Pro-gravity people who say it is a fact have no proof  

Wyatt Earp wrote:
If the theory of gravity were true, it would show that the sun's gravitational force on the moon is much stronger than the earth's gravitational force on the moon, so the moon has to go around the sun. Anybody can look up at night and see the obvious gaps in gravity theory.


It is important to remember however, that the gravitational pull of a body becomes stronger as the distance to it is decreased. The moon, being extraordinarily close to the Earth relative to the moon’s distance from the Sun, is more affected by the Earth’s gravity by virtue of the greatly smaller distance between the two. There is nothing difficult about that.
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The Grandmaster



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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 4:58 am    Post subject: Re: Pro-gravity people who say it is a fact have no proof  

Wyatt Earp wrote: I have been reading here on these sites who say that anti-global warming people have no proof, I have been reading in other room's that pro- evolution people have no proof well some one please prove to me there is something called gravity, why don't you give it up and admit there is no proof of gravity.


Okay.

Jump off the top of your nearest parking garage.

Come back and tell us there's no proof of gravity.
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anselfir



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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:16 am    Post subject:  

ah well, as long as some people believe it, then there is proof enough for them. anyhow, do read ieatfood's post a bit more carefully.
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Wyatt Earp



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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 6:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Pro-gravity people who say it is a fact have no proof  

The Grandmaster wrote: Wyatt Earp wrote: I have been reading here on these sites who say that anti-global warming people have no proof, I have been reading in other room's that pro- evolution people have no proof well some one please prove to me there is something called gravity, why don't you give it up and admit there is no proof of gravity.


Okay.

Jump off the top of your nearest parking garage.

Come back and tell us there's no proof of gravity.

Yea I love telling that to the Anti-Evolution people. when they keep on insisting Evolution is just a theroy.
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Free Thinkr



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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 6:29 pm    Post subject:  

ieatfood wrote: look, this is ridiculous

the law of gravity is different from the theory of gravity

the law of gravity is simply an observation of reality

the law of gravity states that two objects are attracted to each other with a force proportional to the product of their masses and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them


that is simply an observation that is true only becuase every time we test it, that is what we find

the theory of gravity is an attempt to explain the mechanism behind this attraction. there are many proofs for different mechanisms, but they are far too complex for non-physicists to understand.
Quite. You beat me to it. It's actually kind of funny, because there's certainly a parallel here: anyone stating any of the various theories of gravity as fact would indeed be talking s**t, much the way global warming crusaders claim that the human-produced greenhouse gas theory is the be-all, end-all.
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Mr X



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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:19 pm    Post subject:  

LostSoul3412 wrote: Gravity doesn't exist, the world just s*cks. :lol:
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sunwook



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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:51 pm    Post subject:  

yep, the Law of Gravity does exist. Technically, a law is something we observe that generally occurs naturally throughout the universe.

A law doesn't require that we had to have looked at every single atom in the universe, that would be ridiculous, which makes the claim that gravity is not a law a ridiculous one.

Theories describe WHY something happens, laws describe WHAT happens.
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LostSoul3412



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Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:08 pm    Post subject:  

Mr X wrote: LostSoul3412 wrote: Gravity doesn't exist, the world just s*cks. :lol:

See, at least I can prove my theory. :wink:
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larryau



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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 8:09 am    Post subject: Re: Pro-gravity people who say it is a fact have no proof  

Wyatt Earp wrote: The Grandmaster wrote: Wyatt Earp wrote: I have been reading here on these sites who say that anti-global warming people have no proof, I have been reading in other room's that pro- evolution people have no proof well some one please prove to me there is something called gravity, why don't you give it up and admit there is no proof of gravity.


Okay.

Jump off the top of your nearest parking garage.

Come back and tell us there's no proof of gravity.

Yea I love telling that to the Anti-Evolution people. when they keep on insisting Evolution is just a theroy.

Evolution has many flaws. And it is just a theory.
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larryau



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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 9:26 am    Post subject:  

although gravity doens't ahve many flaws, but science has to work and proved throughly. there might be something called gravity there might be not. also, all words are metaphors. u may call it gravity or not. id rather call it whatever i want.
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