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[lilwolf]

Have you ever wondered what goes on in the minds of anti-gun folks. This artice gave me a few more things to consider about that mentality.
Also how to deal with that mentality. A pretty good read all in all.

Comments are welcome.... :-D

www.jpfo.org/ragingagainstselfdefense.htm

[ubikk]

lilwolf wrote: Have you ever wondered what goes on in the minds of anti-gun folks. This artice gave me a few more things to consider about that mentality.
Also how to deal with that mentality. A pretty good read all in all.

Comments are welcome.... :-D


people just have different opinions.

[lilwolf]

True we all have different opinions but it is interesting to read all in all.

[Wolverine]

I agree that the anti-gun position is based on paranoia and whatever mental illness causes people to fear toasters.

[ubikk]

Wolverine wrote: I agree that the anti-gun position is based on paranoia and whatever mental illness causes people to fear toasters.

Many people go their entire lives without ever owning a gun and die at an old age. Some of them are of the opinion that people who need guns are paranoid.

Like i said, everyone just has different opinions.

[Wolverine]

ubikk wrote: Wolverine wrote: I agree that the anti-gun position is based on paranoia and whatever mental illness causes people to fear toasters.

Many people go their entire lives without ever owning a gun and die at an old age. Some of them are of the opinion that people who need guns are paranoid.

Like i said, everyone just has different opinions.
Those who have guns are not afraid of inanimate objects. The anti-gun are, and instead of just living life that way they feel a need to force everyone to do the same.

[Jefferson]

ubikk wrote: lilwolf wrote: Have you ever wondered what goes on in the minds of anti-gun folks. This artice gave me a few more things to consider about that mentality.
Also how to deal with that mentality. A pretty good read all in all.

Comments are welcome.... :-D


people just have different opinions.

Opinions can be wrong and based on prejudice and darkage reasoning.

[lilwolf]

Very true Jefferson very true --- I wanted to see what other peoples opinions are and this is great.

[Canada_Rocks]

ubikk wrote: Wolverine wrote: I agree that the anti-gun position is based on paranoia and whatever mental illness causes people to fear toasters.

Many people go their entire lives without ever owning a gun and die at an old age. Some of them are of the opinion that people who need guns are paranoid.

Like i said, everyone just has different opinions.

"opinions" are one thing, rational conclusions are another.

[Canada_Rocks]

lilwolf wrote: Have you ever wondered what goes on in the minds of anti-gun folks. This artice gave me a few more things to consider about that mentality.
Also how to deal with that mentality. A pretty good read all in all.

Comments are welcome.... :-D

www.jpfo.org/ragingagainstselfdefense.htm


Many of those analogies and points that the author brings up have been used by me in deabtes here. Most anti-gunners here already have their minds made up and they are here just to complain.

When I came to PCF I was anti-gun but a few posters here showed me how I was being illogical. I rationalized it in my head and realized I was just being a "follower" with my beliefs. IMO, the pro-gun argument is pretty dame solid. Some days I feel like America show just leave the Iraqis alone, some days I think they should just carpet bomb them but my stance on gun ownership remains constant.

[Onevote]

ubikk wrote: Wolverine wrote: I agree that the anti-gun position is based on paranoia and whatever mental illness causes people to fear toasters.

Many people go their entire lives without ever owning a gun and die at an old age. Some of them are of the opinion that people who need guns are paranoid.

Like i said, everyone just has different opinions. Sure they do, many people also own an entire guns collection and live to be very old, with out ever even pointing a gun at another person. The real point of the article is to try to understand why some people believe guns are inherently evil, or even dangerous for that matter.

I believe a gun is simply a tool, and if used to commit a crime it is nothing more than an extension of the person using it. You see, it doesn't require a gun to commit murder, rape, Etc. It takes a person with the mental state to do so, to commit those crimes. A person wishing to harm someone, can and will, use whatever means they have to, to reach their goal. By allowing the passing of legislation with the ultimate goal of prohibiting legal gun ownership, We are not addressing the real problem where (gun) crime is concerned. We are only making it easier to commit crime in general.

When we decide to get tough on those who commit crime for a living, we will see a decline in all crime, gun crime included.

Thats my opinion!

[lilwolf]

Bravo.... onevote, damn good point, now if some would think that way a lot of things would get accomplished out here in the real worl and not in the utopias of never never land.

[Cal-Pak]

ubikk wrote: Wolverine wrote: I agree that the anti-gun position is based on paranoia and whatever mental illness causes people to fear toasters.

Many people go their entire lives without ever owning a gun and die at an old age. Some of them are of the opinion that people who need guns are paranoid.

Like i said, everyone just has different opinions.
The simple answer is they never held one in their hands, or fired one.

Let alone fired a few hundred rounds from a .50 cal machine gun, or an M-60/M-249 machine gun.
If they did, after the initial shock wore off, the pure exhilaration of firing one of those thing would definitely change their minds.

Because in simple terms it's fun.

[Wolverine]

But they feel above that, sipping wine and reading a leftist magazine is so much more human.

[perdidochas]

ubikk wrote: Wolverine wrote: I agree that the anti-gun position is based on paranoia and whatever mental illness causes people to fear toasters.

Many people go their entire lives without ever owning a gun and die at an old age.

True


ubikk wrote: Some of them are of the opinion that people who need guns are paranoid.

And that opinion is based on ignorance, or on too much trust in human nature and in the government. However, they have the right to that opinion, but IMHO, they should not use that opinion to foist laws to restrict those that feel otherwise.

[Winchester]

perdidochas wrote: ubikk wrote:
Some of them are of the opinion that people who need guns are paranoid.

And that opinion is based on ignorance, or on too much trust in human nature and in the government. However, they have the right to that opinion, but IMHO, they should not use that opinion to foist laws to restrict those that feel otherwise.

That's okay, some of us are of the opinion that anti-gunners are very nieve. :wink:

[lilwolf]

Love it...... :rotf:

[ubikk]

I don't own personally own any guns, nor do I feel that I need one. I'm not particularly worried about needing one, either. I have nothing against gun ownership either. To each his own .

[Winchester]

ubikk wrote: I don't own personally own any guns, nor do I feel that I need one. I'm not particularly worried about needing one, either. I have nothing against gun ownership either. To each his own .

That's a good policy. I got nothing against people who don't want to own guns, just against people who don't want me to own guns.

[perdidochas]

ubikk wrote: I don't own personally own any guns, nor do I feel that I need one. I'm not particularly worried about needing one, either. I have nothing against gun ownership either. To each his own .

Well, then we will get along well.