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micfranklin · Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 12:45 pm Post subject: Your views on police

I wanna take a poll and get some opinions on what everyone here thinks of the cops. Personally, I think they're cool, but they need to know they're limits and where the boundaries are.

Silkheat · Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 5981 Location: Austin

A lot of the problems with cops is directly tied to the war on drugs, and peacful protests.

bleachy · Joined: 06 Apr 2005 Posts: 218

It really just depends upon the cop.

I've met some cops who are extremely nice and friendly who really just want to help out society.

I've also met many cops who are abusive and will do anything to arrest/fine you.

Aqualung · Joined: 03 Jun 2006 Posts: 2260 Location: Washington

micfranklin wrote: I wanna take a poll and get some opinions on what everyone here thinks of the cops. Personally, I think they're cool, but they need to know they're limits and where the boundaries are.
Most of the problems I see are linked with the police force as a whole. On some things, they have a lot of discretion, but on others they are required to be as harsh as possible (Silkheat mentioned the war on drugs). There is also the fact that cops are required to do a whole lot. Not only do they have to fight crime, but they have to preform a number of social services, as well. This can be stressful and annoying, which can lead to problems.

That being said, I've never met a bad cop.

Enoch · Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 9374

Is there a context here? Or, is this of the profession in general? Because I hate cops when they pull me over for speeding, but love them when they arrested by drug dealer neighbor (not because he was a dealer, but because he threw parties at 4 am on a Wednesday and disturbed the whole apartment complex many, many, many, many times).

Cops...good and bad depending on context.

perdidochas · Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 15424 Location: Florida

Silkheat wrote: A lot of the problems with cops is directly tied to the war on drugs, and peacful protests.

The only protests I've seen videos of being disrupted by cops, I wouldn't define as peaceful.

Anarko-Kapitalizt · Joined: 21 May 2005 Posts: 2517

I wouldn't hate the police nearly as much if their job wasn't to force the State's morality down your throat. The police would be better if their job was only to protect your property.

Drake · Joined: 20 Feb 2006 Posts: 402

UrielsFyre wrote: Is there a context here? Or, is this of the profession in general? Because I hate cops when they pull me over for speeding, but love them when they arrested by drug dealer neighbor (not because he was a dealer, but because he threw parties at 4 am on a Wednesday and disturbed the whole apartment complex many, many, many, many times).

Cops...good and bad depending on context.

You hate cops when they catch you breaking the law and endangering others? Seems rather silly. I like cops who are competent, treat people with respect, and use their discretion wisely, even if they have to write me a ticket.

I will agree that we need some context here. Are we talking about law enforcement and policing in general, or police officers as individuals?

Kt · Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 3806

bleachy wrote: It really just depends upon the cop.

I've met some cops who are extremely nice and friendly who really just want to help out society.

I've also met many cops who are abusive and will do anything to arrest/fine you.

I agree, I've met some cops that are great people, they do their job well, they are respectful, and don't act all pompous and hide behind their badge.

Alot of other cops i've met tried to be intimidating, and tried to twist your words to get you to say what they want to hear. All kinds of shi**y mind games they can play.

A lot of cops where I live don't even follow the rules of the road, they don't use blinkers or follow at a safe distance, they do U-turns in inappropriate places, across traffic etc, etc,.

eynon · Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:23 pm Post subject:

some are good, some are dicks........they don't make the stupid laws though.

I my personal experience big city cops are much less facist then small town cops.....city cops have real crime to fight.

eynon · Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:27 pm Post subject:

Helena` wrote: bleachy wrote: It really just depends upon the cop.

I've met some cops who are extremely nice and friendly who really just want to help out society.

I've also met many cops who are abusive and will do anything to arrest/fine you.

I agree, I've met some cops that are great people, they do their job well, they are respectful, and don't act all pompous and hide behind their badge.

Alot of other cops i've met tried to be intimidating, and tried to twist your words to get you to say what they want to hear. All kinds of shi**y mind games they can play.

A lot of cops where I live don't even follow the rules of the road, they don't use blinkers or follow at a safe distance, they do U-turns in inappropriate places, across traffic etc, etc,.

yeah, kinda figured North Korean cops were dicks.......funny thing is that I found Chinese cops(corruption aside) were much more helpful and nicer then American cops.

eynon · Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:27 pm Post subject:

Helena` wrote: bleachy wrote: It really just depends upon the cop.

I've met some cops who are extremely nice and friendly who really just want to help out society.

I've also met many cops who are abusive and will do anything to arrest/fine you.

I agree, I've met some cops that are great people, they do their job well, they are respectful, and don't act all pompous and hide behind their badge.

Alot of other cops i've met tried to be intimidating, and tried to twist your words to get you to say what they want to hear. All kinds of shi**y mind games they can play.

A lot of cops where I live don't even follow the rules of the road, they don't use blinkers or follow at a safe distance, they do U-turns in inappropriate places, across traffic etc, etc,.

yeah, kinda figured North Korean cops were dicks.......funny thing is that I found Chinese cops(corruption aside) were much more helpful and nicer then American cops.

Enoch · Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 9374

Drake wrote: UrielsFyre wrote: Is there a context here? Or, is this of the profession in general? Because I hate cops when they pull me over for speeding, but love them when they arrested by drug dealer neighbor (not because he was a dealer, but because he threw parties at 4 am on a Wednesday and disturbed the whole apartment complex many, many, many, many times).

Cops...good and bad depending on context.

You hate cops when they catch you breaking the law and endangering others? Seems rather silly. I like cops who are competent, treat people with respect, and use their discretion wisely, even if they have to write me a ticket.

I will agree that we need some context here. Are we talking about law enforcement and policing in general, or police officers as individuals? Okay....you took my speeding ticket comment a bit more literally than I meant it. :roll:

I was just saying we need context.

Drake · Joined: 20 Feb 2006 Posts: 402

UrielsFyre wrote: Drake wrote: UrielsFyre wrote: Is there a context here? Or, is this of the profession in general? Because I hate cops when they pull me over for speeding, but love them when they arrested by drug dealer neighbor (not because he was a dealer, but because he threw parties at 4 am on a Wednesday and disturbed the whole apartment complex many, many, many, many times).

Cops...good and bad depending on context.

You hate cops when they catch you breaking the law and endangering others? Seems rather silly. I like cops who are competent, treat people with respect, and use their discretion wisely, even if they have to write me a ticket.

I will agree that we need some context here. Are we talking about law enforcement and policing in general, or police officers as individuals? Okay....you took my speeding ticket comment a bit more literally than I meant it. :roll:

I was just saying we need context.

No, I understood. My comments were just tongue-in-cheek. Sorry...

ideal · Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 213 Location: Wyoming

The police, as a function of society, deserve a degree of respect for their authority which is needed in a society of laws. Individual men and women who become police deserve a degree of respect because they have chosen a much needed, potentially dangerous profession.

Should a police officer become abusive of his authority, he deserves to be put in his place in a suitably harsh manner.

Malcolm Kyle · Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:26 am Post subject:

Anarko-Kapitalizt wrote: I wouldn't hate the police nearly as much if their job wasn't to force the State's morality down your throat. The police would be better if their job was only to protect your property. :ok: :ok: :ok:

MplsBison · Joined: 13 Dec 2005 Posts: 3380

I like the idea, but the current practice could use some tweaking.

Dr. Wojtyla · Joined: 22 Jun 2006 Posts: 2527 Location: Watican City

Where's the "privatize" option?

sparsely · Joined: 20 May 2006 Posts: 2296 Location: Passamaquoddy

Generally speaking, if our society didn't pit us against each other and institutionalize distrust and disconnection, we wouldn't need outside entities (with guns) to resolve our conflicts and petty differences.

Being that they are tools of enforcement for a majority-ruled and intolerant society, they are always an enemy to me in that respect.
Step out of line, get shot, locked-away, beaten, fined, whatever.

I guess if you're a frightful conformist, the police are your friend.

A Promise Kept · Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Posts: 93

I respect the law enforcement. I respect it so much that I am studying to become a police officer. If that doesn't work, I can always deal out my own version of vigilante justice. All police officers are different in the sense of manners and the way they go about things. Yeah some police officers are real jerks, but think about what they have to do. Every traffic stop could be the one where they get shot in the head through the car window. Police officers are just trying to do their job and hopefully go home every day. Now there are some corrupt crooked cops that fabricate and take advantage of their position of authority and those men and women do not deserve to wear the badge. A lot of people portray the police as bad cops, but I hope that you all realize what being a police officer actually involves. A lot more than your typical job.