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ubikk · Joined: 27 Jul 2006 Posts: 2146

Pat Buchanan writes that the influx of immigrants from south of the border into the U.S. is an attempt to recapture land in his new book, “State of Emergency:The Third World Invasion and Conquest of America.”

“As Rome passed away, so, the West is passing away, from the same causes and in much the same way. What the Danube and Rhine were to Rome, the Rio Grande and Mediterranean are to America and Europe, the frontiers of a civilization no longer defended.”

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14454132/

What do you think: Is Pat right or has he gone off the deep end?

Claudia Schiffer · Joined: 26 Jul 2006 Posts: 3234

He's gone.

john1761 · Joined: 06 Nov 2004 Posts: 673

He is right on point. Immigration can be a postive. Uncontrolled immigration is riunious to the native culture. Without time to assimulate the new immigrants the nation will fall apart into seperate , noncohesive groups. Pat has it right the West is under attack by the hordes.

ubikk · Joined: 27 Jul 2006 Posts: 2146

john1761 wrote: He is right on point. Immigration can be a postive. Uncontrolled immigration is riunious to the native culture. Without time to assimulate the new immigrants the nation will fall apart into seperate , noncohesive groups. Pat has it right the West is under attack by the hordes.

Yes, but is it an organized invasion like he claims?

There are some Texans who think Texas should be an independent country. Does that mean we need to declare it an "attack" and deport them?

Jufarius87 · Joined: 07 Feb 2005 Posts: 1113 Location: Tonawanda N.Y.

ubikk wrote: john1761 wrote: He is right on point. Immigration can be a postive. Uncontrolled immigration is riunious to the native culture. Without time to assimulate the new immigrants the nation will fall apart into seperate , noncohesive groups. Pat has it right the West is under attack by the hordes.

Yes, but is it an organized invasion like he claims?

There are some Texans who think Texas should be an independent country. Does that mean we need to declare it an "attack" and deport them?

As of yet, it is not organized. However, given enough illegals, a seperatist movement could very easily become organized....

Rhoades · Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Posts: 1169 Location: Pennsylvania

Duh. Ever heard of Aztlan? google search it.

psholtz · Joined: 15 Feb 2004 Posts: 23468 Location: California

The idea is not so much land recapture as it is forced re-settlement.

This is an ancient policy of command and control that tyrants have long understood.

For instance, in the Bible, when the Israelites were defeated by the Assyrians, they Assyrians took the Israelites and resettled them in Nineveh (or other parts of Assyria), and then they took Assyrians and made them settle in Israel.

Same idea is happening in America today, and the goal is the same: destruction of the soveriegn nation and its cultural identity.

ubikk · Joined: 27 Jul 2006 Posts: 2146

Jufarius87 wrote: As of yet, it is not organized. However, given enough illegals, a seperatist movement could very easily become organized....

What do you think, should a state be allowed to seceed if enough citizens think so?

Archy · Joined: 23 Aug 2006 Posts: 26

ubikk wrote: Jufarius87 wrote: As of yet, it is not organized. However, given enough illegals, a seperatist movement could very easily become organized....

What do you think, should a state be allowed to seceed if enough citizens think so?

In my opinion, a lone state will never seceed from the union.