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[Bdwatkins]

What or whom existed prior to Adam and Eve? We know from the Bible that the earth wasn't non-existent prior to Adam and Eve; it was, rather, "without form, and void." Here is my theory:

Pre-Adamites were angelic beings who inhabited not only the earth, but also a temperate Venus, Mars and Rahab. Lucifier was the archangel who ruled over these worlds. "Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire." (Ezekiel 28:14 KJV)

He became arrogant, however, and desired more power than that which was vested in him by the Lord. "Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee." (Ezekiel 28:15 KJV) Lucifier and his minions even attempted to create their own beings. This, I believe, is why we have a fossil record which dates back earlier than 7,000 years in the past.

Lucifer's rebellion was met with destruction. His home planet of Rahab, which existed between Mars and Jupiter, was completely annihilated. Psalm 89:10 declares, "Thou hast broken Rahab in pieces, as one that is slain; thou hast scattered thine enemies with thy strong arm."

Rahab's existence was reduced to what we know today as the Asteroid Belt between Mars and Jupiter. It is also likely God used pieces of the planet to pour out His wrath upon Venus, Earth and Mars. This would explain why evidence of catastrophe on these planets is so profound. Mars was clearly once a habitable planet; so was Venus, in all likelihood.

Isaiah 51:9 (NIV) declares: "Awake, awake! Clothe yourself with strength, O arm of the LORD; awake, as in days gone by, as in generations of old. Was it not you who cut Rahab to pieces, who pierced that monster ('Dragon' in KJV) through?" The Dragon is Lucifer. With his world destroyed, he and his minions were scattered. "How you have fallen from heaven, O star of the morning, son of the dawn! You have been cut down to the earth, You who have weakened the nations!" (Isaiah 14:12 NIV)

Here on earth, those rebellious angels later engaged in sexual relations with the daughters of men. "That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose." (Genesis 6:2 KJV) These events are also recored in the Book of Enoch.

This resulted in a angel-human hybrid race. "There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown." (Genesis 6:4 KJV)

Lucifer wanted to destroy the human race in order to destroy God's plan to redeem mankind. The global flood was necessary not only to purify the world of its sins, but also to preserve pure Adamite stock, unto which would the Christ be born.

These fallen angels exist today as "aliens." It is my belief that these fallen beings possess technology greater than ours, including what we know as UFOs, and inhabit the inner crust of the earth. The earth is hollow. The crust of the earth is 800 to 1000 miles thick, and there is a small sun at the center of the earth. The inner-earth is (or at least was) a tropical paradise. It is quite probable that Eden was/is located in the inner-earth. It is also quite possible Paradise (of which Jesus spoke on the Cross) is located within the earth.

The Bermuda Triangle is likely a portal into the inner-earth; this would explain the many disappearances, sightings of UFOs, and other strange occurences. Portals also exist at the North and South poles.

One day, the Children of Satan will return to the earth; they are the army of the Antichrist. "Peace" will be established by the "messiah," the false christ. This false christ will enslave the world. Anyone who refuses to become a mindless drone will be exterminated.

Nevertheless, we have peace in knowing that while the wicked can take our lives, they cannot take our souls. Whosoever has put their faith in Christ will not perish but be rewarded with eternal life. Not by works, but according to the grace of God.

Satan will, yet again, FAIL in his plans to destroy God's plan to redeem mankind. Satan and his minions will be cast into a lake of fire where the suffering will never cease.

ALL of these events will testify that there is one, eternal, Almighty God the Father -- there are NO other gods but He!

Note: in my research I discovered the name 'Rahab' means "Proud" or "Pride." Pride/arrogance was the reason Satan was removed from his position of authority. Rahab, the world of pride, was "broken in pieces" as the Bible says.

[John]

Bdwatkins wrote: What or whom existed prior to Adam and Eve? We know from the Bible that the earth wasn't non-existent prior to Adam and Eve; it was, rather, "without form, and void." Here is my theory:

Pre-Adamites were angelic beings who inhabited not only the earth, but also a temperate Venus, Mars and Rahab. Lucifier was the archangel who ruled over these worlds. "Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire." (Ezekiel 28:14 KJV)

He became arrogant, however, and desired more power than that which was vested in him by the Lord. "Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee." (Ezekiel 28:15 KJV) Lucifier and his minions even attempted to create their own beings. This, I believe, is why we have a fossil record which dates back earlier than 7,000 years in the past.

Lucifer's rebellion was met with destruction. His home planet of Rahab, which existed between Mars and Jupiter, was completely annihilated. Psalm 89:10 declares, "Thou hast broken Rahab in pieces, as one that is slain; thou hast scattered thine enemies with thy strong arm."

Rahab's existence was reduced to what we know today as the Asteroid Belt between Mars and Jupiter. It is also likely God used pieces of the planet to pour out His wrath upon Venus, Earth and Mars. This would explain why evidence of catastrophe on these planets is so profound. Mars was clearly once a habitable planet; so was Venus, in all likelihood.

Isaiah 51:9 (NIV) declares: "Awake, awake! Clothe yourself with strength, O arm of the LORD; awake, as in days gone by, as in generations of old. Was it not you who cut Rahab to pieces, who pierced that monster ('Dragon' in KJV) through?" The Dragon is Lucifer. With his world destroyed, he and his minions were scattered. "How you have fallen from heaven, O star of the morning, son of the dawn! You have been cut down to the earth, You who have weakened the nations!" (Isaiah 14:12 NIV)

Here on earth, those rebellious angels later engaged in sexual relations with the daughters of men. "That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose." (Genesis 6:2 KJV) These events are also recored in the Book of Enoch.

This resulted in a angel-human hybrid race. "There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown." (Genesis 6:4 KJV)

Lucifer wanted to destroy the human race in order to destroy God's plan to redeem mankind. The global flood was necessary not only to purify the world of its sins, but also to preserve pure Adamite stock, unto which would the Christ be born.

These fallen angels exist today as "aliens." It is my belief that these fallen beings possess technology greater than ours, including what we know as UFOs, and inhabit the inner crust of the earth. The earth is hollow. The crust of the earth is 800 to 1000 miles thick, and there is a small sun at the center of the earth. The inner-earth is (or at least was) a tropical paradise. It is quite probable that Eden was/is located in the inner-earth. It is also quite possible Paradise (of which Jesus spoke on the Cross) is located within the earth.

The Bermuda Triangle is likely a portal into the inner-earth; this would explain the many disappearances, sightings of UFOs, and other strange occurences. Portals also exist at the North and South poles.

One day, the Children of Satan will return to the earth; they are the army of the Antichrist. "Peace" will be established by the "messiah," the false christ. This false christ will enslave the world. Anyone who refuses to become a mindless drone will be exterminated.

Nevertheless, we have peace in knowing that while the wicked can take our lives, they cannot take our souls. Whosoever has put their faith in Christ will not perish but be rewarded with eternal life. Not by works, but according to the grace of God.

Satan will, yet again, FAIL in his plans to destroy God's plan to redeem mankind. Satan and his minions will be cast into a lake of fire where the suffering will never cease.

ALL of these events will testify that there is one, eternal, Almighty God the Father -- there are NO other gods but He!

Note: in my research I discovered the name 'Rahab' means "Proud" or "Pride." Pride/arrogance was the reason Satan was removed from his position of authority. Rahab, the world of pride, was "broken in pieces" as the Bible says.


Who do you believe Jesus Christ is?

[TheTME]

John wrote: Bdwatkins wrote: What or whom existed prior to Adam and Eve? We know from the Bible that the earth wasn't non-existent prior to Adam and Eve; it was, rather, "without form, and void." Here is my theory:

Pre-Adamites were angelic beings who inhabited not only the earth, but also a temperate Venus, Mars and Rahab. Lucifier was the archangel who ruled over these worlds. "Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire." (Ezekiel 28:14 KJV)

He became arrogant, however, and desired more power than that which was vested in him by the Lord. "Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee." (Ezekiel 28:15 KJV) Lucifier and his minions even attempted to create their own beings. This, I believe, is why we have a fossil record which dates back earlier than 7,000 years in the past.

Lucifer's rebellion was met with destruction. His home planet of Rahab, which existed between Mars and Jupiter, was completely annihilated. Psalm 89:10 declares, "Thou hast broken Rahab in pieces, as one that is slain; thou hast scattered thine enemies with thy strong arm."

Rahab's existence was reduced to what we know today as the Asteroid Belt between Mars and Jupiter. It is also likely God used pieces of the planet to pour out His wrath upon Venus, Earth and Mars. This would explain why evidence of catastrophe on these planets is so profound. Mars was clearly once a habitable planet; so was Venus, in all likelihood.

Isaiah 51:9 (NIV) declares: "Awake, awake! Clothe yourself with strength, O arm of the LORD; awake, as in days gone by, as in generations of old. Was it not you who cut Rahab to pieces, who pierced that monster ('Dragon' in KJV) through?" The Dragon is Lucifer. With his world destroyed, he and his minions were scattered. "How you have fallen from heaven, O star of the morning, son of the dawn! You have been cut down to the earth, You who have weakened the nations!" (Isaiah 14:12 NIV)

Here on earth, those rebellious angels later engaged in sexual relations with the daughters of men. "That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose." (Genesis 6:2 KJV) These events are also recored in the Book of Enoch.

This resulted in a angel-human hybrid race. "There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown." (Genesis 6:4 KJV)

Lucifer wanted to destroy the human race in order to destroy God's plan to redeem mankind. The global flood was necessary not only to purify the world of its sins, but also to preserve pure Adamite stock, unto which would the Christ be born.

These fallen angels exist today as "aliens." It is my belief that these fallen beings possess technology greater than ours, including what we know as UFOs, and inhabit the inner crust of the earth. The earth is hollow. The crust of the earth is 800 to 1000 miles thick, and there is a small sun at the center of the earth. The inner-earth is (or at least was) a tropical paradise. It is quite probable that Eden was/is located in the inner-earth. It is also quite possible Paradise (of which Jesus spoke on the Cross) is located within the earth.

The Bermuda Triangle is likely a portal into the inner-earth; this would explain the many disappearances, sightings of UFOs, and other strange occurences. Portals also exist at the North and South poles.

One day, the Children of Satan will return to the earth; they are the army of the Antichrist. "Peace" will be established by the "messiah," the false christ. This false christ will enslave the world. Anyone who refuses to become a mindless drone will be exterminated.

Nevertheless, we have peace in knowing that while the wicked can take our lives, they cannot take our souls. Whosoever has put their faith in Christ will not perish but be rewarded with eternal life. Not by works, but according to the grace of God.

Satan will, yet again, FAIL in his plans to destroy God's plan to redeem mankind. Satan and his minions will be cast into a lake of fire where the suffering will never cease.

ALL of these events will testify that there is one, eternal, Almighty God the Father -- there are NO other gods but He!

Note: in my research I discovered the name 'Rahab' means "Proud" or "Pride." Pride/arrogance was the reason Satan was removed from his position of authority. Rahab, the world of pride, was "broken in pieces" as the Bible says.


Who do you believe Jesus Christ is?

More martin luther, less messiah.

[cap'n queasy]

Quote: More martin luther, less messiah.

What do you think this means?

Quote: 2 Thessalonians 2:11 For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, 12 in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness.

If these "pre-adamites" are in fact fallen angelic beings, wouldn't their coming here and posing as super advanced beings who tell us that we are only a biological experiment of theirs and that there is no God and no Messiah count as a "deluding influence"? Could Paul have warned us 2000 years ago?

This is all speculation of course, but if I believed that pre-adamite angelic beings actually existed I would give some serious thought to what Y'shua and the Apostles taught about fallen angels and what their motivation is. Because it seems to me they wouldn't have a kindly disposition toward the human race and if I believed their tales of creating the human race as an experiment I would be perfectly set-up to "not believe the truth" about Y'shua and would therefore be judged accordingly for this.

[wormwood]

Quote: Lucifer's rebellion was met with destruction. His home planet of Rahab, which existed between Mars and Jupiter, was completely annihilated. Psalm 89:10 declares, "Thou hast broken Rahab in pieces, as one that is slain; thou hast scattered thine enemies with thy strong arm."

Rahab's existence was reduced to what we know today as the Asteroid Belt between Mars and Jupiter. It is also likely God used pieces of the planet to pour out His wrath upon Venus, Earth and Mars. This would explain why evidence of catastrophe on these planets is so profound. Mars was clearly once a habitable planet; so was Venus, in all likelihood. Interesting post. I just wanted to make a comment on the quoted part above. I have read an interpretation of Sumerian tablets that sounds almost just like that a la Zecharia Sitchin. His reading was of the story of Marduk and Tiamat. In his interpretation Tiamat (who was the dragon whose body was used to create the world) was a planet that existed somewhere around the asteroid belt and Mars (there was no earth and mars) the planet of the gods, (which was later changed to Marduk to reflect the cheif of the earthly gods) collided with Tiamat and destroyed the world. Just before the planets collided a piece of Tiamat broke off due to the gravity, the piece is known as kingu. The planet Tiamat (which was much larger than earth) broke into 4 pieces. The dense (iron?) core of the planet became mars, 1/4 became the asteroid belt, the watery surface became earth, and kingu is the earth's moon now. Just another perspective.

[melchizedek22]

No where in the Bible is there a plural for the word Archangel,
Michael and Michael alone is the Archangel.
The dead Sea Scrolls do say that Michael and Melchizedek is one and the same,that the office of Melchizedek is the office of the Archangel.
Lucifer AKA Satan never was and never will be an Archangel.

[tim109]

melchizedek22 wrote: No where in the Bible is there a plural for the word Archangel,
Michael and Michael alone is the Archangel.
The dead Sea Scrolls do say that Michael and Melchizedek is one and the same,that the office of Melchizedek is the office of the Archangel.
Lucifer AKA Satan never was and never will be an Archangel.
Where did you read this? because the bible also refers to Gabriel as an Archangel, and depending on your specific religion, Raphael, Uriel, and others as Archangels.