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[britboy]

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Was the following incident justifiable?

Latasha Harlins shooting

Acrimony between Koreans and blacks peaked in a video documented incident involving a 49-year-old Korean woman, Soon Ja Du, who shot and killed Latasha Harlins, a 15-year-old African-American girl. The incident occurred on March 16, 1991, which shortly followed the Rodney King beating. Du confronted Harlins over a $1.79 bottle of orange juice sticking outside of her backpack. The security video recording of the incident shows Du initiating physical contact by tugging at Harlins' sweater during a verbal exchange before Harlins countered by punching her four times in the face, hard enough to knock her to the floor. Du responded by throwing a stool at Harlins. As Harlins walked away, Du fatally shot her in the back of her head.



Gun owners -- would you argue that Soon Ja Du was correct in shooting the young girl in the back of the head? After all, she was walking away with a $1.79 bottle of orange juice THAT WAS SOON'S PROPERTY, and she could have been going to get a gun -- she'd already attacked the shop owner ... Which pro-gunners out there are thinking 'Exactly right -- the girl deserved exactly what she got'?

Is this the kind of thing shopkeepers should be owning guns to be able to do?

Source:

Wikipedia

[perdidochas]

britboy wrote: Thankyou to Perdichos for providing this information.

Was the following incident justifiable?

Latasha Harlins shooting

Acrimony between Koreans and blacks peaked in a video documented incident involving a 49-year-old Korean woman, Soon Ja Du, who shot and killed Latasha Harlins, a 15-year-old African-American girl. The incident occurred on March 16, 1991, which shortly followed the Rodney King beating. Du confronted Harlins over a $1.79 bottle of orange juice sticking outside of her backpack. The security video recording of the incident shows Du initiating physical contact by tugging at Harlins' sweater during a verbal exchange before Harlins countered by punching her four times in the face, hard enough to knock her to the floor. Du responded by throwing a stool at Harlins. As Harlins walked away, Du fatally shot her in the back of her head.



Gun owners -- would you argue that Soon Ja Du was correct in shooting the young girl in the back of the head? After all, she was walking away with a $1.79 bottle of orange juice THAT WAS SOON'S PROPERTY, and she could have been going to get a gun -- she'd already attacked the shop owner ... Which pro-gunners out there are thinking 'Exactly right -- the girl deserved exactly what she got'?

Is this the kind of thing shopkeepers should be owning guns to be able to do?

Source:

Wikipedia

I think Du should be in jail. She inititiated all of the violence.

[RooK]

Yep, not acceptable.

[Cyro]

I do believe that qualifies as overkill.

No, I don't think it's acceptable. But it isn't a reason to say 'guns are bad'; period.

[Jefferson]

britboy wrote: Thankyou to Perdichos for providing this information.

Was the following incident justifiable?

Latasha Harlins shooting

Acrimony between Koreans and blacks peaked in a video documented incident involving a 49-year-old Korean woman, Soon Ja Du, who shot and killed Latasha Harlins, a 15-year-old African-American girl. The incident occurred on March 16, 1991, which shortly followed the Rodney King beating. Du confronted Harlins over a $1.79 bottle of orange juice sticking outside of her backpack. The security video recording of the incident shows Du initiating physical contact by tugging at Harlins' sweater during a verbal exchange before Harlins countered by punching her four times in the face, hard enough to knock her to the floor. Du responded by throwing a stool at Harlins. As Harlins walked away, Du fatally shot her in the back of her head.



Gun owners -- would you argue that Soon Ja Du was correct in shooting the young girl in the back of the head? After all, she was walking away with a $1.79 bottle of orange juice THAT WAS SOON'S PROPERTY, and she could have been going to get a gun -- she'd already attacked the shop owner ... Which pro-gunners out there are thinking 'Exactly right -- the girl deserved exactly what she got'?

Is this the kind of thing shopkeepers should be owning guns to be able to do?

Source:

Wikipedia

Who do you think we gun owners are?

Let me see. I bet people like you think were a bunch of cavemen.

I saw the video? Did you? The truth is not so black and white. I agree with the jurry verdict, but your making this out to be the murder of an angelic little girl. It was not.

Du has been robbed at gun point several times before. Her mental state was very alert and heighted for potential attacks. Harlins was not 'little'. She completely outsized Du. Her blows were not simple tats. They were full on blows you would commonly see in a violent soccer match between thugs.

Your fishing for an answer to complete your highly prejudiced view of gun onwers. Your not going to get it.

[Ragnar Danneskjold]

Sereves the Thug right.

[Jefferson]

perdidochas wrote: britboy wrote: Thankyou to Perdichos for providing this information.

Was the following incident justifiable?

Latasha Harlins shooting

Acrimony between Koreans and blacks peaked in a video documented incident involving a 49-year-old Korean woman, Soon Ja Du, who shot and killed Latasha Harlins, a 15-year-old African-American girl. The incident occurred on March 16, 1991, which shortly followed the Rodney King beating. Du confronted Harlins over a $1.79 bottle of orange juice sticking outside of her backpack. The security video recording of the incident shows Du initiating physical contact by tugging at Harlins' sweater during a verbal exchange before Harlins countered by punching her four times in the face, hard enough to knock her to the floor. Du responded by throwing a stool at Harlins. As Harlins walked away, Du fatally shot her in the back of her head.



Gun owners -- would you argue that Soon Ja Du was correct in shooting the young girl in the back of the head? After all, she was walking away with a $1.79 bottle of orange juice THAT WAS SOON'S PROPERTY, and she could have been going to get a gun -- she'd already attacked the shop owner ... Which pro-gunners out there are thinking 'Exactly right -- the girl deserved exactly what she got'?

Is this the kind of thing shopkeepers should be owning guns to be able to do?

Source:

Wikipedia

I think Du should be in jail. She inititiated all of the violence.

She want to jail for manslaughter. Not for starting the violence. Du tried to stop Harlins by tugging on her shoulder. Harlins responded with blows that would have knocked out Mike Tyson. How do you stop a person from stealing? Use harsh language?

[lilwolf]

She was convicted and its all said and done. Size issues were here in this as well.
Found guilty --- I agree with the jury on this one.

[perdidochas]

Jefferson wrote: perdidochas wrote: britboy wrote: Thankyou to Perdichos for providing this information.

Was the following incident justifiable?

Latasha Harlins shooting

Acrimony between Koreans and blacks peaked in a video documented incident involving a 49-year-old Korean woman, Soon Ja Du, who shot and killed Latasha Harlins, a 15-year-old African-American girl. The incident occurred on March 16, 1991, which shortly followed the Rodney King beating. Du confronted Harlins over a $1.79 bottle of orange juice sticking outside of her backpack. The security video recording of the incident shows Du initiating physical contact by tugging at Harlins' sweater during a verbal exchange before Harlins countered by punching her four times in the face, hard enough to knock her to the floor. Du responded by throwing a stool at Harlins. As Harlins walked away, Du fatally shot her in the back of her head.



Gun owners -- would you argue that Soon Ja Du was correct in shooting the young girl in the back of the head? After all, she was walking away with a $1.79 bottle of orange juice THAT WAS SOON'S PROPERTY, and she could have been going to get a gun -- she'd already attacked the shop owner ... Which pro-gunners out there are thinking 'Exactly right -- the girl deserved exactly what she got'?

Is this the kind of thing shopkeepers should be owning guns to be able to do?

Source:

Wikipedia

I think Du should be in jail. She inititiated all of the violence.

She want to jail for manslaughter. Not for starting the violence. Du tried to stop Harlins by tugging on her shoulder. Harlins responded with blows that would have knocked out Mike Tyson. How do you stop a person from stealing? Use harsh language?

I'm not going to grab somebody that is stealing a bottle of juice. It's not legally justified. That said, that is why I'd never open a store in the 'hood, and why people in the 'hood deserve to pay the outrageous prices that they do.

[Jefferson]

perdidochas wrote: Jefferson wrote: perdidochas wrote: britboy wrote: Thankyou to Perdichos for providing this information.

Was the following incident justifiable?

Latasha Harlins shooting

Acrimony between Koreans and blacks peaked in a video documented incident involving a 49-year-old Korean woman, Soon Ja Du, who shot and killed Latasha Harlins, a 15-year-old African-American girl. The incident occurred on March 16, 1991, which shortly followed the Rodney King beating. Du confronted Harlins over a $1.79 bottle of orange juice sticking outside of her backpack. The security video recording of the incident shows Du initiating physical contact by tugging at Harlins' sweater during a verbal exchange before Harlins countered by punching her four times in the face, hard enough to knock her to the floor. Du responded by throwing a stool at Harlins. As Harlins walked away, Du fatally shot her in the back of her head.



Gun owners -- would you argue that Soon Ja Du was correct in shooting the young girl in the back of the head? After all, she was walking away with a $1.79 bottle of orange juice THAT WAS SOON'S PROPERTY, and she could have been going to get a gun -- she'd already attacked the shop owner ... Which pro-gunners out there are thinking 'Exactly right -- the girl deserved exactly what she got'?

Is this the kind of thing shopkeepers should be owning guns to be able to do?

Source:

Wikipedia

I think Du should be in jail. She inititiated all of the violence.

She want to jail for manslaughter. Not for starting the violence. Du tried to stop Harlins by tugging on her shoulder. Harlins responded with blows that would have knocked out Mike Tyson. How do you stop a person from stealing? Use harsh language?

I'm not going to grab somebody that is stealing a bottle of juice. It's not legally justified.

What are you talking about? Sure it is legal. Cops do it all the time.

[wyldejackyl]

I would have grabbed the juice out of her backpack..better than tugging on a sweater. Did the "victim" get what she deserved? Probably..but in this case, I don't think deadly force was authorized. Perhaps if Harlins took a break so she could arm herself, then yes. But a retreating person, unarmed, after the assault was done? Only a rapist. I'd shoot them in the back of the head if I was some woman that dude had just raped. Not a shoplifter though. Chances are the cops would have her picked up later that week for something else anyway.

[Cyro]

wyldejackyl wrote: I would have grabbed the juice out of her backpack..better than tugging on a sweater. Did the "victim" get what she deserved? Probably..but in this case, I don't think deadly force was authorized. Perhaps if Harlins took a break so she could arm herself, then yes. But a retreating person, unarmed, after the assault was done? Only a rapist. I'd shoot them in the back of the head if I was some woman that dude had just raped. Not a shoplifter though. Chances are the cops would have her picked up later that week for something else anyway.

Are you implying that women can't rape men?

[Onevote]

Cyro wrote: wyldejackyl wrote: I would have grabbed the juice out of her backpack..better than tugging on a sweater. Did the "victim" get what she deserved? Probably..but in this case, I don't think deadly force was authorized. Perhaps if Harlins took a break so she could arm herself, then yes. But a retreating person, unarmed, after the assault was done? Only a rapist. I'd shoot them in the back of the head if I was some woman that dude had just raped. Not a shoplifter though. Chances are the cops would have her picked up later that week for something else anyway.

Are you implying that women can't rape men? Only girlie men! :lol: I could never be raped! Either I'm willing or I'm not. It would be very hard to ride a wet noodle.

[Cyro]

Onevote wrote: Cyro wrote: wyldejackyl wrote: I would have grabbed the juice out of her backpack..better than tugging on a sweater. Did the "victim" get what she deserved? Probably..but in this case, I don't think deadly force was authorized. Perhaps if Harlins took a break so she could arm herself, then yes. But a retreating person, unarmed, after the assault was done? Only a rapist. I'd shoot them in the back of the head if I was some woman that dude had just raped. Not a shoplifter though. Chances are the cops would have her picked up later that week for something else anyway.

Are you implying that women can't rape men? Only girlie men! :lol: I could never be raped! Either I'm willing or I'm not. It would be very hard to ride a wet noodle.

You have an ass don't cha'?

[perdidochas]

Jefferson wrote: perdidochas wrote: Jefferson wrote: perdidochas wrote: britboy wrote: Thankyou to Perdichos for providing this information.

Was the following incident justifiable?

Latasha Harlins shooting

Acrimony between Koreans and blacks peaked in a video documented incident involving a 49-year-old Korean woman, Soon Ja Du, who shot and killed Latasha Harlins, a 15-year-old African-American girl. The incident occurred on March 16, 1991, which shortly followed the Rodney King beating. Du confronted Harlins over a $1.79 bottle of orange juice sticking outside of her backpack. The security video recording of the incident shows Du initiating physical contact by tugging at Harlins' sweater during a verbal exchange before Harlins countered by punching her four times in the face, hard enough to knock her to the floor. Du responded by throwing a stool at Harlins. As Harlins walked away, Du fatally shot her in the back of her head.



Gun owners -- would you argue that Soon Ja Du was correct in shooting the young girl in the back of the head? After all, she was walking away with a $1.79 bottle of orange juice THAT WAS SOON'S PROPERTY, and she could have been going to get a gun -- she'd already attacked the shop owner ... Which pro-gunners out there are thinking 'Exactly right -- the girl deserved exactly what she got'?

Is this the kind of thing shopkeepers should be owning guns to be able to do?

Source:

Wikipedia

I think Du should be in jail. She inititiated all of the violence.

She want to jail for manslaughter. Not for starting the violence. Du tried to stop Harlins by tugging on her shoulder. Harlins responded with blows that would have knocked out Mike Tyson. How do you stop a person from stealing? Use harsh language?

I'm not going to grab somebody that is stealing a bottle of juice. It's not legally justified.

What are you talking about? Sure it is legal. Cops do it all the time.

The shopkeeper wasnt' a cop.

[Cyro]

perdidochas wrote: Jefferson wrote: perdidochas wrote: Jefferson wrote: perdidochas wrote: britboy wrote: Thankyou to Perdichos for providing this information.

Was the following incident justifiable?

Latasha Harlins shooting

Acrimony between Koreans and blacks peaked in a video documented incident involving a 49-year-old Korean woman, Soon Ja Du, who shot and killed Latasha Harlins, a 15-year-old African-American girl. The incident occurred on March 16, 1991, which shortly followed the Rodney King beating. Du confronted Harlins over a $1.79 bottle of orange juice sticking outside of her backpack. The security video recording of the incident shows Du initiating physical contact by tugging at Harlins' sweater during a verbal exchange before Harlins countered by punching her four times in the face, hard enough to knock her to the floor. Du responded by throwing a stool at Harlins. As Harlins walked away, Du fatally shot her in the back of her head.



Gun owners -- would you argue that Soon Ja Du was correct in shooting the young girl in the back of the head? After all, she was walking away with a $1.79 bottle of orange juice THAT WAS SOON'S PROPERTY, and she could have been going to get a gun -- she'd already attacked the shop owner ... Which pro-gunners out there are thinking 'Exactly right -- the girl deserved exactly what she got'?

Is this the kind of thing shopkeepers should be owning guns to be able to do?

Source:

Wikipedia

I think Du should be in jail. She inititiated all of the violence.

She want to jail for manslaughter. Not for starting the violence. Du tried to stop Harlins by tugging on her shoulder. Harlins responded with blows that would have knocked out Mike Tyson. How do you stop a person from stealing? Use harsh language?

I'm not going to grab somebody that is stealing a bottle of juice. It's not legally justified.

What are you talking about? Sure it is legal. Cops do it all the time.

The shopkeeper wasnt' a cop.

Are you suggesting that cops are above the shopkeeper in terms of the law?

[Otacon]

It was uncalled for and possibly even murder, but it's done and that isn't a case for gun control.

[Onevote]

Cyro wrote: Onevote wrote: Cyro wrote: wyldejackyl wrote: I would have grabbed the juice out of her backpack..better than tugging on a sweater. Did the "victim" get what she deserved? Probably..but in this case, I don't think deadly force was authorized. Perhaps if Harlins took a break so she could arm herself, then yes. But a retreating person, unarmed, after the assault was done? Only a rapist. I'd shoot them in the back of the head if I was some woman that dude had just raped. Not a shoplifter though. Chances are the cops would have her picked up later that week for something else anyway.

Are you implying that women can't rape men? Only girlie men! :lol: I could never be raped! Either I'm willing or I'm not. It would be very hard to ride a wet noodle.

You have an ass don't cha'? :lol: I hadn't thought about that!

[leftneckredwing]

Cops shoot innocent people. It happens.

Your cops mowed down an unarmed man for a walkman. Talk about idiots.

[Cyro]

leftneckredwing wrote: Cops shoot innocent people. It happens.

If this is a 'get over it' arguement, you can shove it where the sun doesn't shine.