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ukgirl
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| Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:01 am Post subject: BBC unfair reporting |
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I have always believed that the BBC is slanted on reporting news when it comes to Israel, much to the irritation and denial of my fellow Brits.
So what do the BBC have against Israel?
I have my opinions, but would like to hear some of yours?
Do you think the BBC are bias against reporting fairly in regards to Israel?
If so, why do you think that is?
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cap'n queasy
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I don't catch BBC all that often, but I have seen some articles concerning the Israel situation I would say were biased.
There seems to be a good bit of anti-Israel sentiment in Britain at the moment. |
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ukgirl
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| Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:23 am Post subject: |
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Actually there always has been.
I wouldn't call it anti-semitism, but most definately anti-Israeliism.
They would never admit it, but has a lot to do with old grudges still being held from the days when the Brits ruled Palestine.
More often than not, the Brits are worse than the Arabs, who at least have a stake in any Middle East conflict.
Just recently I was debating the hate banners from February's rally in London against the cartoons. It came up whilst we were discussing banners of "We are Hizbollah" through the streets of London last week and some of the excuses coming from the Brits mouths were disgusting.
They just keep going back to "Israel are the monsters"
They are being fed by the BBC's totally biased take on things and buying it. |
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theshield
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The basic problem of the BBC is that it applies double standard when it deal with Israel.What Europeans are allowed to do Israel is not.It's is not only them but the whole European left.I will leave you to answer the question WHY?why do they apply these double standards?
Have a read at this ,it was originally published in Haaretz back in 2002 but still applicable to this date.It is good to know that there are other Brits like yourself who see Israel in a different light.
http://kybele.psych.cornell.edu/~edelman/Rosenblum-Haaretz-June-29-2002.html |
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antonio62
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| The BBC is also called Pro Israel all the time. The same reports get called both anti and pro Israel. Since they seem to be both pro and anti and the same time that would suggest its relatively balanced. |
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Nico
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| Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:39 am Post subject: |
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The BBC is old school conservative and always has been. it still reeks of reporters' leather-sleeved jumpers and olivetti typerwriters, even though the tech has changed. Guys like john simpson make everybody else look like hotel lounge/ fire base press-release junkies.
I watched a fox news report last night where the reporter was standing next to Israeli tanks waxing lyrical about how the drivers had families [no kidding], and they all seemed to be buddies. you won't see anything like that kind of paling around by the beeb, for any side. I want the news, not a pitch. |
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Nico
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Actually that reminds me. I wrote an email to the beeb last week, complaining about their bylines, as for two weeks, people in gaza were reported 'killed' and not killed. Even though the report stated that in fact the people had been confirmed killed, by whatever means, the person who wrote the bylines always used quotation marke, the implication being that it was rumour or hearsay, when in fact it wasn't
So is this anti-Palestinian bias when Israelis are killed and palestinians are 'killed' ? You be the judge, but this is the same beeb we're talking about here. |
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mendosan
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| Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:33 am Post subject: |
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| The BBC's portrayal of the current conflict id painfully anti-Israeli, you get much better reporting on Channel 4 news and even Sky news, in fact Sky news much more impartial language, and I'm pretty sure none of its reporters weeped when Arafat (a mass murderer) died. |
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X-Shocker
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| Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:38 am Post subject: |
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All news medias are biased in one way or another on every issue at hand. It is the opinions and feelings of the reporters and the editors that the world must endure.
I just like to get the Who, What, When, and Where out of a story, never liked the Why. |
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mendosan
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| Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:49 am Post subject: |
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X-Shocker wrote: All news medias are biased in one way or another on every issue at hand. It is the opinions and feelings of the reporters and the editors that the world must endure.
I just like to get the Who, What, When, and Where out of a story, never liked the Why.
Yeah but we all pay for the f***ing BBC and I don't want biased reporting or emotional responses from reporters, i want facts, then i will make my own opinion after hearing them. |
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liberty12345
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mendosan wrote: The BBC's portrayal of the current conflict id painfully anti-Israeli, you get much better reporting on Channel 4 news and even Sky news, in fact Sky news much more impartial language, and I'm pretty sure none of its reporters weeped when Arafat (a mass murderer) died.
oh wise up ch4 is far more anti isreal than bbc, top 3 that i watch now and again.
al jazeera (reporting nothing but anti western and anti isreal propaganda)
ch4
bbc
itv in my view are not too bad. ch5 i dont know cause i never watch them. |
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ToonArmyIsComing
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liberty12345 wrote: oh wise up ch4 is far more anti isreal than bbc, top 3 that i watch now and again.
al jazeera (reporting nothing but anti western and anti isreal propaganda)
ch4
bbc
itv in my view are not too bad. ch5 i dont know cause i never watch them.
Well, wait till you see FOX news, CNN, and other American "news" channels and then you know what biased means in reality! |
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liberty12345
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ToonArmyIsComing wrote: liberty12345 wrote: oh wise up ch4 is far more anti isreal than bbc, top 3 that i watch now and again.
al jazeera (reporting nothing but anti western and anti isreal propaganda)
ch4
bbc
itv in my view are not too bad. ch5 i dont know cause i never watch them.
Well, wait till you see FOX news, CNN, and other American "news" channels and then you know what biased means in reality!
yea i know they can be quite anti isreal too 8:) |
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whynot
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Quote: So what do the BBC have against Israel?
you can rewrite the question and ask
so what a television still out of the control of the criminal regime of israel?
if that happen and bbc is really out of this control that will be a miracle because 90 percent of medias in europe and usa are under control of the sionism lobby .
you can ask if there still a group of independant person that still have honesty and impartiality ; and if that happen that will be a miracle
because the coalition of imperialiste america and the criminal israel force all the world to say- amin- to all was the propaganda sioniste say |
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mendosan
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liberty12345 wrote: mendosan wrote: The BBC's portrayal of the current conflict id painfully anti-Israeli, you get much better reporting on Channel 4 news and even Sky news, in fact Sky news much more impartial language, and I'm pretty sure none of its reporters weeped when Arafat (a mass murderer) died.
oh wise up ch4 is far more anti isreal than bbc, top 3 that i watch now and again.
al jazeera (reporting nothing but anti western and anti isreal propaganda)
ch4
bbc
itv in my view are not too bad. ch5 i dont know cause i never watch them.
My really problem with the BBC is that we all pay for it so it should not be blatantly biased, I don't really have a problem with other channels being biased |
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Plato & Socrates
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antonio62 wrote: The BBC is also called Pro Israel all the time. The same reports get called both anti and pro Israel. Since they seem to be both pro and anti and the same time that would suggest its relatively balanced.
:tu: The BBC has it just about right, because they dont agree with your personal view, they must be anti-Israel.
They just report the news and explain it how it is. What many detractors of the Beeb would prefer, is for them to ommit certain stories and events because the P.R against Israel is Bad. |
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SpartanPhalanx
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cap'n queasy wrote: I don't catch BBC all that often, but I have seen some articles concerning the Israel situation I would say were biased.
There seems to be a good bit of anti-Israel sentiment in Britain at the moment.
Yeah, Britain and about 200 other countries...... :lol: |
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battleax86
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SpartanPhalanx wrote: cap'n queasy wrote: I don't catch BBC all that often, but I have seen some articles concerning the Israel situation I would say were biased.
There seems to be a good bit of anti-Israel sentiment in Britain at the moment.
Yeah, Britain and about 200 other countries...... :lol:
Which you would know because you've been to all these 200 countries, right...? :roll: |
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MoscowMatt
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| Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 5:44 pm Post subject: Re: BBC unfair reporting |
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ukgirl wrote: I have always believed that the BBC is slanted on reporting news when it comes to Israel, much to the irritation and denial of my fellow Brits.
So what do the BBC have against Israel?
I have my opinions, but would like to hear some of yours?
Do you think the BBC are bias against reporting fairly in regards to Israel?
If so, why do you think that is?
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1154525841951&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
Wathcing the news at the moment it seems like in a 30 minute bulletin they will talk about how many have died in Lebanon and show pictures etc for about 28 minutes. Then almost casually, quickly tell you how many have died in Israel with little or no footage. So yes I think they are heavily biased against Israel! |
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Rankor and Pissing
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Nico wrote: The BBC is old school conservative and always has been. it still reeks of reporters' leather-sleeved jumpers and olivetti typerwriters, even though the tech has changed. Guys like john simpson make everybody else look like hotel lounge/ fire base press-release junkies.
I watched a fox news report last night where the reporter was standing next to Israeli tanks waxing lyrical about how the drivers had families [no kidding], and they all seemed to be buddies. you won't see anything like that kind of paling around by the beeb, for any side. I want the news, not a pitch.
You must be listening and watching a different BBC than me. Every time I seem to catch the BBC field reporting, it's showing the "human" story... what seems like 30 minutes is actually about 2 or 3 but they constantly feel the need to enumerate the "human emotional" story's when I listen & watch. I thought the UK didn't like showing their soft side? |
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