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Silkheat · Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 5981 Location: Austin

To say that Christianity is a bloody religion is an understatement. In todays society we still see it as Christians everywhere demanded Isalmic blood, even when the country had nothing to do with 9/11.

So my question is this; Jesus in the bible was pro-compasion, what happened that made hime pro-war?

Pi_314 · Joined: 26 Jul 2006 Posts: 95

Silkheat wrote: To say that Christianity is a bloody religion is an understatement. In todays society we still see it as Christians everywhere demanded Isalmic blood, even when the country had nothing to do with 9/11.

So my question is this; Jesus in the bible was pro-compasion, what happened that made hime pro-war?

Christianity grew up through sadistic means. It's main weapon for converting people was the rack. Torture was the norm. Given the choice what would be your pick - Chrstianity or death? This is not a philosophy born for compassion but control.

Silkheat · Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 5981 Location: Austin

Pi_314 wrote: Silkheat wrote: To say that Christianity is a bloody religion is an understatement. In todays society we still see it as Christians everywhere demanded Isalmic blood, even when the country had nothing to do with 9/11.

So my question is this; Jesus in the bible was pro-compasion, what happened that made hime pro-war?

Christianity grew up through sadistic means. It's main weapon for converting people was the rack. Torture was the norm. Given the choice what would be your pick - Chrstianity or death? This is not a philosophy born for compassion but control.

I agree. Its foundations when they man decided what the new testament was going to be at the council of Nicea the main purpose was to establish control of the people through religion.

However, this does not change the fact that the Bible shows a compassionate, loving Jesus. Why then do its followers love murder so much? Is the practiced religion and philosophy differnt that the textual one?

Fido · Joined: 16 Mar 2006 Posts: 3936

Silkheat wrote: To say that Christianity is a bloody religion is an understatement. In todays society we still see it as Christians everywhere demanded Isalmic blood, even when the country had nothing to do with 9/11.

So my question is this; Jesus in the bible was pro-compasion, what happened that made hime pro-war?

Power is another God, and if some who worship that God malign and slander Jesus by calling themselves Christians what is that to me? It is not Christ that real Christians are selling; but another understanding, and a paradigm, if you will, that you don't get if you don't give, and that is that. Jesus wasn't selling Jesus. Jesus was teaching a philosophy long ignored by the Hebrews though commonly accepted by them. This is no different for Christians. We would crucify him all over again if he returned. We hate him, and hate what he taught. And what he taught was how to survive injustice, while every wants to know how to profit from injustice. We are simply incompatible with Jesus.

melchizedek22 · Joined: 27 Apr 2006 Posts: 370 Location: Holy Toledo

Jesus catchs the blame for a lot of things followers in his name do.
Jesus said "all that live by the sword die by the sword."He was refering to the Angel with a Sword in Numbers 22vs22 and else where.
This might be hard to believe ,but Jesus wasn't a right wing narrowmind
selfrightous Republican,who put his faith in George W Bush Karl Rove
p***k Cheney. He put his faith in YHWH his father!

satisfaction · Joined: 08 Aug 2006 Posts: 12 Location: Seattle, WA

But the modern world today consists of Christians that live their lives, think, act, speak, not totally as Christians. We may act like Christians in certain aspects of our lives, but overall, we don't. This new generation of Christians has come to face the sex addiction of the Western world as well , drinking, drugs, etc. It is no longer the Ten Commandments are now just a list of sentences kids learn in Sunday School. That may sound harsh, but do you understand what I'm saying? People call themselves Christians but support ideas such as Gay Marriage. I myself are one. That may be insulting to a Christian in medieval times, but I think it's time that the Christian faith adapt to the world today?

But the Christians that "demanded Muslim blood" were not speaking as Christians, but rather citizens of a country that was attack by Islamic terrorists. Put it under patriotism? Saying that, as you may have already known, is contradictory to what most major world religions believe and preach. Those Muslim terrorists fighting under the banner of jihad against Israel are contradicting their religion. Islam does not call for killing people of other faiths, but rather embrace them. This happened before the modern era, Muslims, Christians, Jews were all living together in peace. But then the Crusades happened... fast forward to the 20th century and the establishment of Israel

TreizeEnder · Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 88

Silkheat wrote: To say that Christianity is a bloody religion is an understatement. In todays society we still see it as Christians everywhere demanded Isalmic blood, even when the country had nothing to do with 9/11.

So my question is this; Jesus in the bible was pro-compasion, what happened that made hime pro-war?
Perhaps so much conflict arises over such importance and human's inherent nature to twist things to benefit themselves, not from the religion itself. I find that it is the people that constitute the religion, not the religion in and of itself. This isn't unique to Christianity, just more prolific because of its widespread influence.

mojo · Joined: 08 Sep 2005 Posts: 5450 Location: Dreamland, NC

Silkheat wrote: To say that Christianity is a bloody religion is an understatement. In todays society we still see it as Christians everywhere demanded Isalmic blood, even when the country had nothing to do with 9/11.

So my question is this; Jesus in the bible was pro-compasion, what happened that made hime pro-war?

Did Jesus ever kill anybody? Did he ever support any War?

No

THEXRATED · Joined: 13 Jul 2004 Posts: 2827 Location: Tuonelan Virrat

Monotheistic religions lead to intolerance.

TreizeEnder · Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 88

THEXRATED wrote: Monotheistic religions lead to intolerance.
True. But again, people compose a religion. Just because people are fallible, does not mean the religion is. It is merely human nature. One man can taint the name of whatever group they associate themselves with. I have experienced this same problem with members of Christianity many a time, yet what they do reflects little on what is said to be done. People are not an accurate method of measuring a religion, sadly.

Shoogar Bunny · Joined: 26 Jul 2006 Posts: 4

THEXRATED wrote: Monotheistic religions lead to intolerance.

monotheistic religions themselves, i dont believe lead to intolerance, its the natural self will and rebelion that leads to an intolerant religion, if fact, i dont think it only applys to religions, (or rather a certain "faith" becuase anything can be a religion). so, i think that if any religion was correctly practiced "by the book" it would not lead to such "intolerances". i hope that made sense...

TreizeEnder · Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 88

Shoogar Bunny wrote: THEXRATED wrote: Monotheistic religions lead to intolerance.

monotheistic religions themselves, i dont believe lead to intolerance, its the natural self will and rebelion that leads to an intolerant religion, in fact, i dont think it only applys to religions, (or rather a certain "faith" becuase anything can be a religion). So, i think that if any religion was correctly practiced "by the book" it would not lead to such "intolerances". i hope that made sense...

I believe I understand what you are saying for the most part; forgive me if I am wrong.

To me, it is not necessarily following the "book" that leads to conflict, but rather people's interpretations of the "book". In one of my previous comments, I noted that it was typical of people to interpret things the way they would like them to be. Also, this intolerance seems to stem from the innate desire to be superior to their fellow humans. It is instinctive and subtle, for the most part, and many neglect to acknowledge it as a catalyst to negative and harmful actions.

Unfortunately, even the religion of Christianity is accompanied by flaws. It is inevitable. So, those that "demand blood" should not be used as a reference to the religion; nobody should be, for that matter.

dolphin · Joined: 08 Aug 2006 Posts: 142

because wars are always hilarious.

Shoogar Bunny · Joined: 26 Jul 2006 Posts: 4

dolphin wrote: because wars are always hilarious.

:!?: ..... huh?

fourtysixandtwo

Silkheat wrote: To say that Christianity is a bloody religion is an understatement. In todays society we still see it as Christians everywhere demanded Isalmic blood, even when the country had nothing to do with 9/11.

So my question is this; Jesus in the bible was pro-compasion, what happened that made hime pro-war?

What?

fourtysixandtwo · Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:39 am Post subject:

THEXRATED wrote: Monotheistic religions lead to intolerance.

:lol: I think PEOPLE are intolerant, religion and the idea of monotheistic religions does the opposite, last time i checked Jesus preached tolerance, while one it does show that the generalization is not always true.

eynon

Pi_314 wrote: Silkheat wrote: To say that Christianity is a bloody religion is an understatement. In todays society we still see it as Christians everywhere demanded Isalmic blood, even when the country had nothing to do with 9/11.

So my question is this; Jesus in the bible was pro-compasion, what happened that made hime pro-war?

Christianity grew up through sadistic means. It's main weapon for converting people was the rack.

a lot of tall Christians running around :wink:

eynon · Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:11 am Post subject:

THEXRATED wrote: Monotheistic religions lead to intolerance.

and the Saffron Tigers embrace diversity :roll:

stop being so naive, people are f***ing intolerant, we're tribal......we evolved that way.

eynon

Silkheat wrote: To say that Christianity is a bloody religion is an understatement. In todays society we still see it as Christians everywhere demanded Isalmic blood, even when the country had nothing to do with 9/11.

So my question is this; Jesus in the bible was pro-compasion, what happened that made hime pro-war?

cause we usually win, god being on our side and such :wink:

THEXRATED · Joined: 13 Jul 2004 Posts: 2827 Location: Tuonelan Virrat

wannabe wrote: THEXRATED wrote: Monotheistic religions lead to intolerance.

and the Saffron Tigers embrace diversity :roll:

stop being so naive, people are f***ing intolerant, we're tribal......we evolved that way.

Monotheistic religions have caused much turmoil throughout history. And continue to do so today.

I am not saying that there aren't other reasons for intolerant behaviour, but history also show that in those countries where majority practise(d) polytheistic religions haven been more tolerant against other religious groups.