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[paulmarkj]

Democrats have an agenda.
Republicans have an agenda.
All politcal parties have an agenda.
The Green parties of the UK and of Europe have a agendas and a manifesto that they publish and on which you can decide to vote.

This is not a conspiracy nor a secret nor anything to be worried about.

As for funding: all parties have funding, including green parties. Big businesses often prefer righbt wing parties, unions favour liberals or left wing, some prefer green parties.

There is sometimes a link between breen and far left for variuous reasons.

Yes, green parties would like a different world, some believe that the world can be built on differnt lines: an economy that is more stable and fairer to peole and the environment. I don't believe their model would work, but I believe in democracy and at least their ideas have something worth discussing.

Presumably, Rododoon, you want a change in government, but why is your solution (whatever it may be ok, but others are alway work domination. If you got your way and ahd the government you wanted, you would need an agenda and need support and need money. In other words, you are the conspiracy!

"It's the smoking gun. " No, it is just the Green doing some politics.

[Robodoon]

Citizendave wrote: Robodoon,

Your posts are too long and flaky for me to read. I acknowledge that I do not have the stamina, intelligence, or desire to refute your loopty claims. In fact, I really don't know for a fact that they are loopty, because they seem so loopty at first glance, I can't get motivated to even begin debating them. You trumpet the statments of people who died a long time ago as evidence that they are out to get us.

But it occurs to me to issue a simple challenge to you. With the "special knowledge" which you claim to possess, I'm asking you to make a time-specific prediction. If you are feeling especially prescient, make several predictions each with a target year.

What will happen in 5 years Oh great Robodoon? 10 years?

I'm waiting. And keep your response short, or I'm likely not to get it, because I only skim your stuff. In addition to being a flake (probably) you are a rotten communicator.

hey thats they way to get answers, insult me and make demands. :shock:

[Robodoon]

Quote: [quote="paulmarkj"]Democrats have an agenda.
Republicans have an agenda.
All politcal parties have an agenda.
The Green parties of the UK and of Europe have a agendas and a manifesto that they publish and on which you can decide to vote.

This is not a conspiracy nor a secret nor anything to be worried about.

As for funding: all parties have funding, including green parties. Big businesses often prefer righbt wing parties, unions favour liberals or left wing, some prefer green parties.

What makes you think these parties are different or their control sturctures ?

Quote: There is sometimes a link between breen and far left for variuous reasons. Sometimes?

Quote: Yes, green parties would like a different world, some believe that the world can be built on differnt lines: an economy that is more stable and fairer to peole and the environment. I don't believe their model would work, but I believe in democracy and at least their ideas have something worth discussing. The Green party is going to be backing UN Agenda 21 protocal

Quote: Presumably, Rododoon, you want a change in government, but why is your solution (whatever it may be ok, but others are alway work domination. If you got your way and ahd the government you wanted, you would need an agenda and need support and need money. In other words, you are the conspiracy! I would like my government back. And the constitution supported.

Quote: "It's the smoking gun. " No, it is just the Green doing some politics The power behind the greens are the powers behind the dems and the reps...its a game.

[Citizendave]

Robodoon wrote: hey thats they way to get answers, insult me and make demands

I hope you aren't pretending to be surprised that someone on this site is insulting you.

As for my "demand" I'm surprised that a person with your special powers of insight isn't happy to provide me with a prediction or two.

C'mon Oh Genie From Afar Robodoon: what's going to happen two years from now? 5 years from now? You pick the number of years! Surely your warnings must have a timeline attached to them? You can even stick in a handy "if/then" statement if it will make you less apt to wet your pants.

By the way, would you like to buy 1,000 lbs of fertilizer from me?????

[gemma]

Robodoon wrote: BigOMG wrote: Wasn't there a book the Al Gore wrote the forward in that spoke of selective genocide to protect the environment? More specifically kill those that had different opinions about it. I seem to remember that being an issue when he and bill first ran. I have always wanted a copy of that book, if it really exists.

Earth in the Balence.

He calls Man a Cancer on the earth....I think thats what you are talking about. I've never read the book though.... but I have sources that did.

Gore is a good name for him.

You haven't read it? I haven't read it either, but these people have:

http://home.earthlink.net/~jhadler/outofbalance.html

http://www.brothersjudd.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/reviews.detail/book_id/174

http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/Gore.html

http://dianedew.com/Gore.htm

None of these reviews are particularly kind. None of these reviews mention selective genocide--perhaps better population control (ie access to birth control and abortion) is what you mean, he meant?

Granted, there was a republication of the book in 2000.

If you haven't read it either, where is your source on the genocide thing? What's with questioning the existence of the book? It's kinda the first thing that comes up in a google search under "al gore book."


I dunno, maybe you're confusing it with this:

http://www.snopes.com/language/document/earthbal.htm

Anyway, I'm in no way saying Gore has all the answers. Maybe the Elites have convinced me that a holistic approach to the environment is key, not just taking paper towels to the latest spill, but preventing crises before they happen.

[Robodoon]

Quote: [quote="gemma"] Robodoon wrote: BigOMG wrote: Wasn't there a book the Al Gore wrote the forward in that spoke of selective genocide to protect the environment? More specifically kill those that had different opinions about it. I seem to remember that being an issue when he and bill first ran. I have always wanted a copy of that book, if it really exists.

Earth in the Balence.

He calls Man a Cancer on the earth....I think thats what you are talking about. I've never read the book though.... but I have sources that did.

Gore is a good name for him.

You haven't read it? I haven't read it either, but these people have:

http://home.earthlink.net/~jhadler/outofbalance.html

http://www.brothersjudd.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/reviews.detail/book_id/174

http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/Gore.html

http://dianedew.com/Gore.htm

None of these reviews are particularly kind. None of these reviews mention selective genocide--perhaps better population control (ie access to birth control and abortion) is what you mean, he meant?

Granted, there was a republication of the book in 2000.

If you haven't read it either, where is your source on the genocide thing? What's with questioning the existence of the book? It's kinda the first thing that comes up in a google search under "al gore book."

Lots of sources on the genocide thing, besides Gore, gore is just a player in the game.

Check out my new film on the topic of population control


MERCURY, AUTISM AND THE GLOBAL VACCINE AGENDA http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6890106663412840646

David Ayoub, M.D. goes through the relations of Mercury to Autism as well as its connection to

“National Security Study Memorandum 200”; for population control.

Showing its shocking connections to today’s GAVI.

Are powerful forces really trying to help the poor people or could it be for another agenda; the sterilization of the poor?


here is another new one as well dealing with the issue

THE HIDDEN AGENDA: THE FLUORIDE DECEPTION http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7984669833566646476

DR. Monteith goes over the history of fluoride, its use, its dangers and its promotion over time.

Why something that is rejected by so many nations is promoted here in the USA.

Learn about the Hidden Agenda behind the use of Fluoride, who’s behind it and the real purpose behind its use.



Quote: I dunno, maybe you're confusing it with this:

http://www.snopes.com/language/document/earthbal.htm

Well Like I said I haven't read it, but Gore is part of the Elite Crowd and promotes their designs, example his new film. There is an Agenda of the Elites, to days push for environmentalism is their vehicle for social change, not saving the earth.

Quote: Anyway, I'm in no way saying Gore has all the answers. Maybe the Elites have convinced me that a holistic approach to the environment is key, not just taking paper towels to the latest spill, but preventing crises before they happen.

The Elites come up with the Crisis and use them for their agenda.

Quote: Aurelio Peccei founder and past president of the Club of Rome said”
In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages ,famine, and the like would fit the bill…All of these are caused by human intervention…The real enemy , then is humanity itself”
(the Birth of World Government Paraphrased from page16 by Michael S. Coffman Ph.D)

The thing they don’t tell the people about this is that the Elites cause all the pollution (they own the Multinationals corps) , and Fraud sources for Global Warming (3500 scientist who agree with global warming all get grants from the UN or the EPA while the 18,000 scientist who say it is a fraud do not)
. http://www.discerningtoday.org/

Groups like the Sierra Club are directly related to the Club of Rome and past Leadership have even stated they are in league with the Club of Rome and desire the Global Government promised by them. Past leadership has stated by a guy named Elvin
“…a collectivist world government and through a “global society” to replace “sterile nationalism with its evil emphasis on competition and Consumption

If you read the Club of Rome report, Limits of Growth, you will find they intend to create artificial shortages. Other publications such as The Unfinished Agenda and the 1992 Rio Report To The Club of Rome confirm that objective. They believe shortages are better than abundance, and low living standards are better than high living standards. I suggest you reread my January letter, evaluate the information cited there, and then read the summary of the Global Biodiversity Assessment contained in my Sustainable Development Syllabus. When you grasp the significance of the concepts discussed there you will understand why there is an energy shortage in California, and why the price of natural gas is rising across the nation. The "Elite" groups that rule the world want to create artificial shortages, force people to limit their consumption, and undermine our way of life. [23]
http://www.radioliberty.com/nlmar01.htm

Like I keep saying Humans haven’t polluted the earth it’s a game, the pollution that has been done by “man” has been because of the forced finite markets of the Elites. They hold monopolies on everything and we can only use what they say, ,like oil and MTBE which Pollute.

What is happening with the “war on terror” is also theirs as well. They allowed it to happen or where involved, because what is happening now on a global scale was written down as needed years ago.

Peace and God Bless the Humans

[paulmarkj]

Quote: There is sometimes a link between breen and far left for variuous reasons. Sometimes?

Yes, sometimes. If you have a pioint, make it. Many Green activists I know have different agendas to the far left.

Quote: Quote: Yes, green parties would like a different world, some believe that the world can be built on differnt lines: an economy that is more stable and fairer to peole and the environment. I don't believe their model would work, but I believe in democracy and at least their ideas have something worth discussing. The Green party is going to be backing UN Agenda 21 protocal

I'm not sure of your point. The Green Party, like other parties, has policies and some policies are backed by the UN, and vice versa, that is not a problem.
Quote:
Quote: Presumably, Rododoon, you want a change in government, but why is your solution (whatever it may be ok, but others are alway work domination. If you got your way and ahd the government you wanted, you would need an agenda and need support and need money. In other words, you are the conspiracy! I would like my government back. And the constitution supported.


What is your government, you are at some point going to have to say what you want, and if you and others get together to attempt to fulfil this, then you have a policy. Why should you have a policy and other not?

The irony is (and you will not get this): to overthrow the current government system you have to have a conspiracy of your own.

[Robodoon]

Quote: paulmarkj wrote: Quote: There is sometimes a link between breen and far left for variuous reasons. Sometimes?

Yes, sometimes. If you have a pioint, make it. Many Green activists I know have different agendas to the far left.

Quote: Quote: Yes, green parties would like a different world, some believe that the world can be built on differnt lines: an economy that is more stable and fairer to peole and the environment. I don't believe their model would work, but I believe in democracy and at least their ideas have something worth discussing. The Green party is going to be backing UN Agenda 21 protocal

I'm not sure of your point. The Green Party, like other parties, has policies and some policies are backed by the UN, and vice versa, that is not a problem.

The UN is special interest, and does not have the interests of the USA at heart...they want world government and the end of nations, thats why they call us nation states or just states sometimes.

Quote:
Quote: Quote: Presumably, Rododoon, you want a change in government, but why is your solution (whatever it may be ok, but others are alway work domination. If you got your way and ahd the government you wanted, you would need an agenda and need support and need money. In other words, you are the conspiracy! I would like my government back. And the constitution supported.


What is your government, you are at some point going to have to say what you want, and if you and others get together to attempt to fulfil this, then you have a policy. Why should you have a policy and other not?

The irony is (and you will not get this): to overthrow the current government system you have to have a conspiracy of your own. I think you misunderstand that our government already has been taken or over thrown. We aren't following the Constitution...which is suppose to be the law of the land.

[Ch33kY]

I must say, a very...interesting...read. Robodoon do you actually believe anything you have posted, or is it just for entertainment.

[Dr. Wojtyla]

Ch33kY wrote: I must say, a very...interesting...read. Robodoon do you actually believe anything you have posted, or is it just for entertainment.

Everything! Even the parts that contradict the other parts.

[micfranklin]

I tried to read the article....but I'm completely, really lost :? :? :?

[Robodoon]

Ch33kY wrote: I must say, a very...interesting...read. Robodoon do you actually believe anything you have posted, or is it just for entertainment.

What do think? Am I normally a fun time guy or a serious one? ;)

[Robodoon]

Dr. Wojtyla wrote: Ch33kY wrote: I must say, a very...interesting...read. Robodoon do you actually believe anything you have posted, or is it just for entertainment.

Everything! Even the parts that contradict the other parts.

Please show me.

[Robodoon]

micfranklin wrote: I tried to read the article....but I'm completely, really lost :? :? :?

Well its part of something much larger. As crazy and expansive as this is, its really small in the over all.


Basically, the Elites are using environmentalism as their vehicle for change (one of them) war is another, social discourse another ...etc.

The foundations listed have their fingers in many pies....but the same cake.

[Citizendave]

Leading to what when? Please put a year on it.

[Ch33kY]

Robodoon wrote: Ch33kY wrote: I must say, a very...interesting...read. Robodoon do you actually believe anything you have posted, or is it just for entertainment.

What do think? Am I normally a fun time guy or a serious one? ;)

Well...according to your profile you are a guy.