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Momo



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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 12:55 pm    Post subject: A Lebanese Citizen about Israel Lebanon conflict  

Frontpage Interview guest today is Brigitte Gabriel, a survivor of Islam's Jihad against Lebanese Christians. She is now an expert on the Middle East conflict who lectures nationally and internationally on the subject. She's the former news anchor of World News for Middle East television and the founder of AmericanCongressforTruth.com.


Brigitte Gabriel Speech at Duke University

Remarks of Brigitte Gabriel, delivered at the Duke University Counter Terrorism Speak-Out





I'm proud and honored to stand here today, as a Lebanese speaking for Israel , the only democracy in the Middle East . As someone who was raised in an Arabic country, I want to give you a glimpse into the heart of the Arabic world.

I was raised in Lebanon , where I was taught that the Jews were evil, Israel was the devil, and the only time we will have peace in the Middle East is when we kill all the Jews and drive them into the sea.

When the Moslems and Palestinians declared Jihad on the Christians in 1975, they started massacring the Christians, city after city. I ended up living in a bomb shelter underground from age 10 to 17, without electricity, eating grass to live, and crawling under sniper bullets to a spring to get water.

It was Israel who came to help the Christians in Lebanon . My mother was wounded by a Moslem's shell, and was taken into an Israeli hospital for treatment. When we entered the emergency room, I was shocked at what I saw. There were hundreds of people wounded, Moslems, Palestinians, Christians, Lebanese, and Israeli soldiers lying on the floor. The doctors treated everyone according to their injury. They treated my mother before they treated the Israeli soldier lying next to her. They didn't see religion, they didn't see political affiliation, they saw people in need and they helped.

For the first time in my life I experienced a human quality that I know my culture would not have shown to their enemy. I experienced the values of the Israelis, who were able to love their enemy in their most trying moments. I spent 22 days at that hospital. Those days changed my life and the way I believe information, the way I listen to the radio or to television. I realized I was sold a fabricated lie by my government, about the Jews and Israel , that was so far from reality. I knew for fact that, if I was a Jew standing in an Arab hospital, I would be lynched and thrown over to the grounds, as shouts of joy of Allah Akbar, God is great, would echo through the hospital and the surrounding streets.

I became friends with the families of the Israeli wounded soldiers: one in particular Rina, her only child was wounded in his eyes.

One day I was visiting with her, and the Israeli army band came to play national songs to lift the spirits of the wounded soldiers. As they surrounded his bed playing a song about Jerusalem , Rina and I started crying. I felt out of place and started waking out of the room, and this
mother holds my hand and pulls me back in without even looking at me.
She holds me crying and says: "it is not your fault". We just stood there crying, holding each other's hands.

What a contrast between her, a mother looking at her deformed 19 year old only child, and still able to love me the enemy, and between a Moslem mother who sends her son to blow himself up to smithereens just to kill a few Jews or Christians.

The difference between the Arabic world and Israel is a difference in values and character. It's barbarism verses civilization. It's democracy verses dictatorship. It's goodness verses evil.

Once upon a time, there was a special place in the lowest depths of hell for anyone who would intentionally murder a child. Now, the intentional murder of Israeli children is legitimized as Palestinian "armed struggle".

However, once such behaviour is legitimized against Israel, it is legitimized every where in the world, constrained by nothing more than the subjective belief of people who would wrap themselves in dynamite and nails for the purpose of killing children in the name of god.

Because the Palestinians have been encouraged to believe that murdering innocent Israeli civilians is a legitimate tactic for advancing their cause, the whole world now suffers from a plague of terrorism, from Nairobi to New York , from Moscow to Madrid , from Bali to Beslan.

They blame suicide bombing on "desperation of occupation". Let me tell you the truth. The first major terror bombing committed by Arabs against the Jewish state occurred ten weeks before Israel even became independent.

On Sunday morning, February 22, 1948 , in anticipation of Israel 's independence, a triple truck bomb was detonated by Arab terrorists on Ben Yehuda Street , in what was then the Jewish section of Jerusalem . Fifty-four people were killed, and hundreds were wounded. Thus, it is obvious that Arab terrorism is caused not by the "desperation" of "occupation", but by the VERY THOUGHT of a Jewish state.

So many times in history in the last 100 years, citizens have stood by and done nothing, allowing evil to prevail. As America stood up against and defeated communism, now it is time to stand up against the terror of religious bigotry and intolerance. It's time to all stand up, and support and defend the state of Israel , which is the front line of the war against terrorism.
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Redruin



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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 8:52 pm    Post subject:  

Out of curiosity I decided to check out her web site. Here is its mission statement:

Our Vision

Promote the establishment of grassroots ACT activists nationwide. American Congress for Truth activists will network to ensure aggressive implementation of an educational program to enable grassroots citizens to participate in the defense of America on their own level. ACT members will be trained to be vigilant and respond fast to anti American anti Israel media bias.

Promote civic activism to ensure elected officials remain vigilant in their duties in defending and protecting the United States and its only democratic ally in the Middle East the State of Israel.

Partner with like minded organizations and coordinate efforts in developing an effective public relations campaign to speak against media bias wherever it exists; in the western media, among the intellectual elite, and on American college campuses. Accomplish our goals through organizational efforts, media presentations, documentaries, publications and speaking engagements.

Bring concerned Americans from all backgrounds both secular and religious, liberals and conservatives to work on the most important issue of the day, SECURITY. For if we lose our life because of some fanatic terrorist attack no other issue matters. We won’t be here to do anything about it.



It sounds like she is merely a paid puppet of the Israeli PR machine to defend and promote Israeli interests worldwide.
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augustus kafka



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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 2:05 am    Post subject:  

Suppose she is paid by the Israelis and the Americans, which I don't doubt she very well might be. What does this do to her story? If you listen to the extremely, painfully long interview on her website, it's quite interesting, and it sounds like she's gone through a lot in her life. Do you think she would lie because she may be getting paid by Israelis to say pro-Israeli stuff? Do you think she would have an actual pro-Israeli bias when her mission statemen clearly states otherwise? I don't think so.
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Redruin



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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 4:45 am    Post subject:  

augustus kafka wrote: Do you think she would have an actual pro-Israeli bias when her mission statemen clearly states otherwise? I don't think so.

Let me clarify her mission statement for you, as you seem confused. From her web site:

"Our members include Jews, Arabs and Christians from all background both secular and religious, liberals and conservatives. People who have put their differences aside to combat both anti American and anti Israel propaganda masquerading as anti Imperialism and anti Zionism wherever it exists; in the western media, among the intellectual elite, and on American college Campuses."

Exerpt from my post above:

"ACT members will be trained to be vigilant and respond fast to anti American anti Israel media bias. "

I will translate for you. Her job is to seek out and combat, with the goal of destroying, any anti-Israeli sentiment she encounters. If that is not a pro-Israeli bias in your established opinion, please enlighten me on how this could possibly qualify as otherwise.
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TNBiologist



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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:35 am    Post subject:  

Redruin wrote: augustus kafka wrote: Do you think she would have an actual pro-Israeli bias when her mission statemen clearly states otherwise? I don't think so.

Let me clarify her mission statement for you, as you seem confused. From her web site:

"Our members include Jews, Arabs and Christians from all background both secular and religious, liberals and conservatives. People who have put their differences aside to combat both anti American and anti Israel propaganda masquerading as anti Imperialism and anti Zionism wherever it exists; in the western media, among the intellectual elite, and on American college Campuses."

Exerpt from my post above:

"ACT members will be trained to be vigilant and respond fast to anti American anti Israel media bias. "

I will translate for you. Her job is to seek out and combat, with the goal of destroying, any anti-Israeli sentiment she encounters. If that is not a pro-Israeli bias in your established opinion, please enlighten me on how this could possibly qualify as otherwise.

By your logic if I go out and destroy any anti-black sentiment then I am pro-black. But I am not, I just do not want any group to be descriminated against. Even think she is just trying to bring a sense a balance to people that have been blinded by pure hate?
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Redruin



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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:40 am    Post subject:  

TNBiologist wrote: By your logic if I go out and destroy any anti-black sentiment then I am pro-black. But I am not, I just do not want any group to be descriminated against. Even think she is just trying to bring a sense a balance to people that have been blinded by pure hate?

You did not read the mission statement carefully. If your ENTIRE MISSION is merely to destroy anti-black sentiment, then YOU ARE PRO-BLACK.
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programmusic



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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 1:26 pm    Post subject:  

There are many who's mission is to destroy anti-black sentiment. Imo, it's a noble mission. Stopping blind racism and hatred of the kind she is discussing should be everyone's mission. Unfortunately it's not.
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TNBiologist



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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 1:45 pm    Post subject:  

Redruin wrote: TNBiologist wrote: By your logic if I go out and destroy any anti-black sentiment then I am pro-black. But I am not, I just do not want any group to be descriminated against. Even think she is just trying to bring a sense a balance to people that have been blinded by pure hate?

You did not read the mission statement carefully. If your ENTIRE MISSION is merely to destroy anti-black sentiment, then YOU ARE PRO-BLACK.

Wrong, I would be pro-peace and understanding. There is a difference. If I were pro-black I would be basking other races while upholding the black race (similar to what the media often does to muslim terrorist).
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Redruin



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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 2:01 pm    Post subject:  

"I knew for fact that, if I was a Jew standing in an Arab hospital, I would be lynched and thrown over to the grounds, as shouts of joy of Allah Akbar, God is great, would echo through the hospital and the surrounding streets."

"I was raised in Lebanon , where I was taught that the Jews were evil, Israel was the devil, and the only time we will have peace in the Middle East is when we kill all the Jews and drive them into the sea. "

"For the first time in my life I experienced a human quality that I know my culture would not have shown to their enemy"



If these statements do not qualify as blind racism, please enlighten me as to how they would qualify as otherwise. This woman's foundation, the ACT, has but one goal, to defend Israeli national interests. Thus, it is clear from my perspective that she has turned her back on Lebanon, serving now as a paid mouthpiece of the Israeli PR machine. For, if she really had lived in the truly horrific fashion she described during the Lebanese civil war, I find it inconsistent that she would not be against the senseless violence going on there today, and is instead promoting Israel's campaign to level her own country.
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Redruin



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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 2:33 pm    Post subject:  

TNBiologist wrote: Redruin wrote: TNBiologist wrote: By your logic if I go out and destroy any anti-black sentiment then I am pro-black. But I am not, I just do not want any group to be descriminated against. Even think she is just trying to bring a sense a balance to people that have been blinded by pure hate?

You did not read the mission statement carefully. If your ENTIRE MISSION is merely to destroy anti-black sentiment, then YOU ARE PRO-BLACK.

Wrong, I would be pro-peace and understanding. There is a difference. If I were pro-black I would be basking other races while upholding the black race (similar to what the media often does to muslim terrorist).


There is no question of being pro-black here. This is not even debatable. When your mission statement is pro-black, and you use DEFAMATION AGAINST OTHER ANOTHER CULTURE to justify your stance and your crusade to destroy anti-black sentiment, you ARE pro-black. Just look at the statements I have posted above, tell me she is not bashing muslims around the world. How are you promoting peace and understanding when you say the things she has? Unbelievable.
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