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DavidXV · Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 9828

and to all Israeli citizens and the nation of Israel:

Today you are in our prayers, may God protect you and your family, loved ones and relatives, may God bring peace to Israel.

But now, thus says the LORD, who created you, O Jacob,
And He who formed you, O Israel:

“ Fear not, for I have redeemed you;
I have called you by your name;
You are Mine.
When you pass through the waters, I will be with you;
And through the rivers, they shall not overflow you.
When you walk through the fire, you shall not be burned,
Nor shall the flame scorch you.
For I am the LORD your God,
The Holy One of Israel, your Savior;
I gave Egypt for your ransom,
Ethiopia and Seba in your place.
Isaiah 43:1,2,3

John · Joined: 02 Jun 2004 Posts: 22504 Location: Houston

Amen. +p

cap'n queasy · Joined: 15 May 2004 Posts: 34968

I second that.

Achilles The Myrmidon · Joined: 20 Nov 2004 Posts: 4320 Location: Hellas

I thought you guys were Christians...

David Duke · Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 5 Location: Louisiana

Israel is killing innocent people. The Jews took away thir land by force. The innocent people that are being slaughtered by the Zionists are the ones who should be in our prayers. Think people.

melchizedek22 · Joined: 27 Apr 2006 Posts: 370 Location: Holy Toledo

David Duke wrote: Israel is killing innocent people. The Jews took away thir land by force. The innocent people that are being slaughtered by the Zionists are the ones who should be in our prayers. Think people.

your suppose to say sieg heil after nazi postings!

Darth Tiberius · Joined: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 2001 Location: Oxford

DavidXV wrote: and to all Israeli citizens and the nation of Israel:

Today you are in our prayers, may God protect you and your family, loved ones and relatives, may God bring peace to Israel.

But now, thus says the LORD, who created you, O Jacob,
And He who formed you, O Israel:

“ Fear not, for I have redeemed you;
I have called you by your name;
You are Mine.
When you pass through the waters, I will be with you;
And through the rivers, they shall not overflow you.
When you walk through the fire, you shall not be burned,
Nor shall the flame scorch you.
For I am the LORD your God,
The Holy One of Israel, your Savior;
I gave Egypt for your ransom,
Ethiopia and Seba in your place.
Isaiah 43:1,2,3

What are you actually saying by all this? Israel are not the victims.

Gaius · Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 139

God I really hate it when people try to be blatently bias in relation to this. Israel is being out of order, though perhaps it is right to attempt to disarm Hezbollah, especially if Lebanon refuse to do anything. But to say that Israel is the victim in all of this, is frankly, an embaressment.

locke862 · Joined: 24 May 2006 Posts: 78

just because some of you guys think israel is not the victims doesn't mean they are being killed. I amen.

locke862 · Joined: 24 May 2006 Posts: 78

i meant aren't being killed in the last post...its too late.

Darth Tiberius · Joined: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 2001 Location: Oxford

Gaius wrote: God I really hate it when people try to be blatently bias in relation to this. Israel is being out of order, though perhaps it is right to attempt to disarm Hezbollah, especially if Lebanon refuse to do anything. But to say that Israel is the victim in all of this, is frankly, an embaressment.

Frankly it'd be good for Israel to be put in its place before it thinks of showing the level of aggresion and oppresion is hows now.

Duchifas · Joined: 22 Jun 2004 Posts: 9950

Darth Tiberius wrote: Gaius wrote: God I really hate it when people try to be blatently bias in relation to this. Israel is being out of order, though perhaps it is right to attempt to disarm Hezbollah, especially if Lebanon refuse to do anything. But to say that Israel is the victim in all of this, is frankly, an embaressment.

Frankly it'd be good for Israel to be put in its place before it thinks of showing the level of aggresion and oppresion is hows now.

Yeah, Hizbollah is trying to put Israel in its place. Why don't you cheer a bit harder for them. Maybe they'll send a few more rockets into Israeli towns.

Darth Tiberius · Joined: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 2001 Location: Oxford

Duchifas wrote: Darth Tiberius wrote: Gaius wrote: God I really hate it when people try to be blatently bias in relation to this. Israel is being out of order, though perhaps it is right to attempt to disarm Hezbollah, especially if Lebanon refuse to do anything. But to say that Israel is the victim in all of this, is frankly, an embaressment.

Frankly it'd be good for Israel to be put in its place before it thinks of showing the level of aggresion and oppresion is hows now.

Yeah, Hizbollah is trying to put Israel in its place. Why don't you cheer a bit harder for them. Maybe they'll send a few more rockets into Israeli towns.

Israel were the first aggresors. They attacked first. They kidnapped many Hizbollah and Palestinian prisonners. Then 3 Israelis were captured and now Israel launched their ultimate hissy fit and decided to unproportionately bomb Lebanon. And not just government. They bomb houses, people retreating fromt eh violence to get to safety, refugees, men, women, children and everything. Frankly Israel need to be stopped. Their reign of terror has gone on since they were created.

Duchifas · Joined: 22 Jun 2004 Posts: 9950

Darth Tiberius wrote: Duchifas wrote: Darth Tiberius wrote: Gaius wrote: God I really hate it when people try to be blatently bias in relation to this. Israel is being out of order, though perhaps it is right to attempt to disarm Hezbollah, especially if Lebanon refuse to do anything. But to say that Israel is the victim in all of this, is frankly, an embaressment.

Frankly it'd be good for Israel to be put in its place before it thinks of showing the level of aggresion and oppresion is hows now.

Yeah, Hizbollah is trying to put Israel in its place. Why don't you cheer a bit harder for them. Maybe they'll send a few more rockets into Israeli towns.

Israel were the first aggresors. They attacked first. They kidnapped many Hizbollah and Palestinian prisonners. Then 3 Israelis were captured and now Israel launched their ultimate hissy fit and decided to unproportionately bomb Lebanon. And not just government. They bomb houses, people retreating fromt eh violence to get to safety, refugees, men, women, children and everything. Frankly Israel need to be stopped. Their reign of terror has gone on since they were created.

I understand that it is more convenient to ignore the context of the conflict. But if you really want to know who started what first:

http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_1967to1991_lebanon_1978.php

http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_1967to1991_lebanon_198x_backgd.php

Darth Tiberius · Joined: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 2001 Location: Oxford

Duchifas wrote: Darth Tiberius wrote: Duchifas wrote: Darth Tiberius wrote: Gaius wrote: God I really hate it when people try to be blatently bias in relation to this. Israel is being out of order, though perhaps it is right to attempt to disarm Hezbollah, especially if Lebanon refuse to do anything. But to say that Israel is the victim in all of this, is frankly, an embaressment.

Frankly it'd be good for Israel to be put in its place before it thinks of showing the level of aggresion and oppresion is hows now.

Yeah, Hizbollah is trying to put Israel in its place. Why don't you cheer a bit harder for them. Maybe they'll send a few more rockets into Israeli towns.

Israel were the first aggresors. They attacked first. They kidnapped many Hizbollah and Palestinian prisonners. Then 3 Israelis were captured and now Israel launched their ultimate hissy fit and decided to unproportionately bomb Lebanon. And not just government. They bomb houses, people retreating fromt eh violence to get to safety, refugees, men, women, children and everything. Frankly Israel need to be stopped. Their reign of terror has gone on since they were created.

I understand that it is more convenient to ignore the context of the conflict. But if you really want to know who started what first:

http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_1967to1991_lebanon_1978.php

http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_1967to1991_lebanon_198x_backgd.php

That is appalling,. Using history and non-relevant sources to back up a current conflict? That was then this is now. Your sources bear no relevance to current events!! Has Israel no shame? Has Israel no honor? It appears to me more and more Israel show themselvews for the true tyranny they are. The government for its oppression of the Palestinian people, its war crimes, its collaboration with the West in a trade for powerful weapons to keep other countries at bay, and the Israeli people for not giving a damn about Palestinians, Lebonese or anyone else. I hear on the news Israelis supporting the war and happy that civilians are being attacked and Lebanon is put back 20 years.

And to make matter worse, Israel have "mistakingly" killed 4 UN peacekeepers in Lebanon. And yet Israel still stands defiant. Israel are truly on my axis of evil.

Carlin · Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:27 am Post subject:

Israel isn't really a holy land. Why is it ok for violence, kidnapping, torture, and killing to be not only accepted, but celebrated in the name of nonsense? Who cares who started what? This needs to end.

Darth Tiberius · Joined: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 2001 Location: Oxford

Carlin wrote: Israel isn't really a holy land. Why is it ok for violence, kidnapping, torture, and killing to be not only accepted, but celebrated in the name of nonsense? Who cares who started what? This needs to end.

Indeed. It is insult to everyone when Israel is described as the Holy Hand. It is a land IMHO of extreme depravity of morals. Israel desrve what's coming to them and I feel no sympathy for them.

Carlin · Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 10:30 am Post subject:

Darth Tiberius wrote: Carlin wrote: Israel isn't really a holy land. Why is it ok for violence, kidnapping, torture, and killing to be not only accepted, but celebrated in the name of nonsense? Who cares who started what? This needs to end.

Indeed. It is insult to everyone when Israel is described as the Holy Hand. It is a land IMHO of extreme depravity of morals. Israel desrve what's coming to them and I feel no sympathy for them.

I am merely against ignorant violence (as if there's any other kind), wherever it is.

John · Joined: 02 Jun 2004 Posts: 22504 Location: Houston

Darth Tiberius wrote: Carlin wrote: Israel isn't really a holy land. Why is it ok for violence, kidnapping, torture, and killing to be not only accepted, but celebrated in the name of nonsense? Who cares who started what? This needs to end.

Indeed. It is insult to everyone when Israel is described as the Holy Hand. It is a land IMHO of extreme depravity of morals. Israel desrve what's coming to them and I feel no sympathy for them.

What's coming to them?

Darth Tiberius · Joined: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 2001 Location: Oxford

John wrote: Darth Tiberius wrote: Carlin wrote: Israel isn't really a holy land. Why is it ok for violence, kidnapping, torture, and killing to be not only accepted, but celebrated in the name of nonsense? Who cares who started what? This needs to end.

Indeed. It is insult to everyone when Israel is described as the Holy Hand. It is a land IMHO of extreme depravity of morals. Israel desrve what's coming to them and I feel no sympathy for them.

What's coming to them?

Some sort of karma for the pain and suffering they have caused others through their imperialism. To think they sit back and let the military commit crimes in Palestine and then order the killing, capture or torture of many Palestinians or so called "militants" is truly evil. I propose economic and other forms of sanctions on Israel and a boycott of Israeli products.