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superskippy · Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 7749 Location: Petah Tikva

Well sheeba farms is most assuridly not Lebanese, and you really think Hezbollah can claim that some loyal Israeli villages in northern Israel deserve to be returned to them for some archaic and absurd claim of occupation?

Arabian_Princess · Joined: 16 Nov 2004 Posts: 116

previsionary wrote: superskippy wrote: Quote: Well as long as there is Lebanese land or Prisoners with Israel than hezbollah has a right to attack.

Really what land do you yourself actually think is occupied?

This video summarizes my opinion on the current conflict very well.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/video/videoplayer/0,,31200-galloway_060806,00.html

To directly answer your question Sheeba farms and the seven villages.

WOW. I must agree George Galloway all the way.. He had way better logical arguments, which ALMOST MOST ARABS (regardless of what religion) believes in!!!!! Perhaps maybe we are more AWARE of the CRISIS and the HISTORY of our region. WE are NOT brained washed with CRAPPY BIAS NEWS.

This crisis is not 4 weeks old, it streches back in the early 80s' and THAT is EXACTLY what many members fail to understand. I repeat HEZBOLLAH are considered heroic RESISTERS, fighting for their LANDS and HONOR!!!

superskippy · Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 7749 Location: Petah Tikva

They are terrorists responsible for international bombings and killings, those who view them as heroic resisters for their flagrant assault on Israel as well as there string of terrorist attacks and bombings are nothing but fools.

Arabian_Princess · Joined: 16 Nov 2004 Posts: 116

superskippy wrote: Well sheeba farms is most assuridly not Lebanese, and you really think Hezbollah can claim that some loyal Israeli villages in northern Israel deserve to be returned to them for some archaic and absurd claim of occupation?
Sheeba FARMS are lebanese and will always be lebanese, EVEN if are STILL occupied.
You know it, I know it, and history is there to proof it! So stop living in dennial.

superskippy · Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 7749 Location: Petah Tikva

Tell me then the last time it was part of the territory of Lebanon? The answer is you cant, it has never been Lebanese territory. Syria just decided a few decades ago that they were handing it over a pure symbolic gesture to give Hezbollah a cassus belli and pretext to assault Israel.

Arabian_Princess · Joined: 16 Nov 2004 Posts: 116

superskippy wrote: They are terrorists responsible for international bombings and killings, those who view them as heroic resisters for their flagrant assault on Israel as well as there string of terrorist attacks and bombings are nothing but fools.

HAHAHA thats the funniest post I ever read. One word, "IGNORENT".
How are they RESPONSIBLE for international BOMBING are you confusing AL QAIDA with Hezbollah. Give me one proof? Isn't Israel responsible for slaughtering a peaceful Palestenain family who is having a picnic on the beach? What do you call that? Don't make me give you loads and endless examples where your country is responsible for murderinging and using illegal weapons on innocent civilians!!! So cut Hezbollah some slack!
You're just ignorantally labelling Hezbollah "terrorists" as an excuse to FINISH and DESTORY Hezbollah, because simply they have the balls to fight back.

EightyEight · Joined: 09 Sep 2004 Posts: 3360

The bombing of the Israeli embassy and a jewish cultural center in Buenos Aires by Hezbollah qualifies them as an international terrorist organization.

previsionary · Joined: 14 Jul 2006 Posts: 86 Location: CHI-TOWN

superskippy wrote: They are terrorists responsible for international bombings and killings, those who view them as heroic resisters for their flagrant assault on Israel as well as there string of terrorist attacks and bombings are nothing but fools.

The only international bombing and killings I see by Hezbollah is aganist Israel. What do you consider the international bombing and killing and the national bombing and killing within Israel committed daily aganist the Palestinians?

Israel is causing a lot more terror than what "terror" Hezbollah is causing now and has caused since 1982 combined. Just look at the death toll numbers in Lebanon now... simple as that.

So does that make me a lesser of a fool or makes you more foolish??

EightyEight · Joined: 09 Sep 2004 Posts: 3360

You consider a jewish cultural center in Buenos Aires part of Israel? And locations in london too?

previsionary · Joined: 14 Jul 2006 Posts: 86 Location: CHI-TOWN

EightyEight wrote: The bombing of the Israeli embassy and a jewish cultural center in Buenos Aires by Hezbollah qualifies them as an international terrorist organization.

get your facts straight...

That was the Islamic Jihad which is said to be in Syria, Yemen, and now they think Egypt. Hezbollah was said to have used the name in 1980's when they emerged. The bombing occurred in 1992. Hezbollah has denied their involvement in the bombing.

superskippy · Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 7749 Location: Petah Tikva

Quote: how are they RESPONSIBLE for international BOMBING are you confusing AL QAIDA with Hezbollah. Give me one proof? Isn't Israel responsible for slaughtering a peaceful Palestenain family who is having a picnic on the beach? What do you call that? Don't make me give you loads and endless examples where your country is responsible for murderinging and using illegal weapons on innocent civilians!!! So cut Hezbollah some slack!
You're just ignorantally labelling Hezbollah "terrorists" as an excuse to FINISH and DESTORY Hezbollah, because simply they have the balls to fight back.

Ignoring your insult I think you should check the other thread where I address their terrorist attacks. I can copy it here if you want to concentrate it.

I would suggest you curb the insults no need to call me ignorant.

Quote: The only international bombing and killings I see by Hezbollah is aganist Israel. What do you consider the international bombing and killing and the national bombing and killing within Israel committed daily aganist the Palestinians?

Jewish targets is a more accurate description, and they kill foreign nationals.

As for what to call the civilians killed in the conflict and war between us and the Palestinians, I would call it just that. Civilians tragically and without intent killed in the course of a deadly and sad conflict in which over 1,000 Israelis have died and around 1,500-2,000 Palestinian civilians have been slain.

EightyEight · Joined: 09 Sep 2004 Posts: 3360

And Nazi executors denied their involvement when justice came their way also.

Read this:
http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/lebanon/tl04.html

Israeli, US and Argentinian intelligence believe that it was Hezbollah. I take the word of their three intelligence communities over that of Hezbollah.

Arabian_Princess · Joined: 16 Nov 2004 Posts: 116

superskippy,
Well I apologize if you felt insulted, and I did read what you wrote in the other thread. YET again that is what you were made to believe, Hezbollah was never condemned for what you've accused them.
Right now, they are not terrorizing Israel. They are defending themselves. Put this in mind, peace would never be prevailed with the shedding of blood on BOTH SIDES.

Arabian_Princess · Joined: 16 Nov 2004 Posts: 116

I still believe Israel does more terror.

They shower and rain civilians with bombs. They target refugees hideouts where innocent children and women are hiding. What happened in Qanna is a live proof of TERRORISM.
Should I go on?

superskippy · Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 7749 Location: Petah Tikva

Arabian_Princess wrote: superskippy,
Well I apologize if you felt insulted, and I did read what you wrote in the other thread. YET again that is what you were made to believe, Hezbollah was never condemned for what you've accused them.
Right now, they are not terrorizing Israel. They are defending themselves. Put this in mind, peace would never be prevailed with the shedding of blood on BOTH SIDES.

Defending themselves? They attacked us not the other way arround. They are reaping what they have sown.

Arabian_Princess · Joined: 16 Nov 2004 Posts: 116

superskippy wrote: Arabian_Princess wrote: superskippy,
Well I apologize if you felt insulted, and I did read what you wrote in the other thread. YET again that is what you were made to believe, Hezbollah was never condemned for what you've accused them.
Right now, they are not terrorizing Israel. They are defending themselves. Put this in mind, peace would never be prevailed with the shedding of blood on BOTH SIDES.

Defending themselves? They attacked us not the other way arround. They are reaping what they have sown.

Oh reallyyyyy they attacked you first?

superskippy · Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 7749 Location: Petah Tikva

Yes 6 years after the withdrawel we have endured their rocket attacks, and then on July 12th they launched a major assault on Israel.

previsionary · Joined: 14 Jul 2006 Posts: 86 Location: CHI-TOWN

superskippy wrote: Yes 6 years after the withdrawel we have endured their rocket attacks, and then on July 12th they launched a major assault on Israel.

Its not a 4 week or 6 year conflict. Israel still has Lebanese prisoners since they barged into lebanon during the civil war.

superskippy · Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 7749 Location: Petah Tikva

Hezbollah has been engaging us non stop for reasons beyond the captured militants, we arent going to hand them over.

This didnt begin on July 12th, they have been assaulting us constantly we arent going to turn over their prisoners until peace occurs.

previsionary · Joined: 14 Jul 2006 Posts: 86 Location: CHI-TOWN

superskippy wrote: Hezbollah has been engaging us non stop for reasons beyond the captured militants, we arent going to hand them over.

This didnt begin on July 12th, they have been assaulting us constantly we arent going to turn over their prisoners until peace occurs.

Thats what I'm trying to get too. Israel has had Prisoners since the civil war. You say peace was suppose to occur in 2000 why weren't the prisoners given back at that time??? So Israel did have a chance to give back thoe prisoners but didn't. Than when Hezbolla sent rockets I think in 2001 israel was suprised.

This could have been avioded if in the first year of withdrawal in 2000 the prisoners were given back.