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[theshield]

Its another evil Zionist conspiracy,it's so sophisticated that even most of the other Zionists don't know about it...

[cap'n queasy]

:lol:

That must be it.

[skinn]

michel wrote: Split the damn country up just like they did with bosnia/herzegovinia.
We Christians are sick and tired of Moslems violence and killings.
50/50 with christians and moslems getting half of each, that's the solution to the problems of lebanon.

In 5 yrs they will surely see the advancement of christian lebanon in contrast to feudal 5th century theology moslem lebanon.
Moslem lebanon can then wage war against israel everyday if they wanted too, and let's see what will happen to them.
Culturally and spiritually we are not compatible with the moslems anyway.
Emille lahoud can live in the moslem side of town for all we care.

Damn LF extremist parasits.
wont u ever understand christian lebanese hate you to the bone?
u were the cause of the syrian occupation of lebanon, hell, u even had festivals the day syria occupated all of lebanon.

u held the lebanese christian comunity hostage with your crimes for too long. So don't dream loudly of the old days cause they're not comming back.

u were the cause of every evil in lebanon, and i am ashamed of my self when reading about the acts of lebanese christians in our modern history because of u. :twisted:

[superskippy]

cap'n queasy wrote: I didn't notice any Israeli officials or Israel supporters say they liked the idea at all.

How do you come to that conclusion?

How do they come to it? Why they proclaim it.

[Arabian_Princess]

Oh , your such a patriot to actually suggest and want that. Shame on you, your fellow Lebanese citizens, children and women dieing and your sitting typing away blaming the Muslims for all your misery!
Hezbollah are the resisters in your homeland not cowards like yourself! They are fighting for your prisoners of war who are held in Israeli prisons. If Hezbollah doesn’t fight for you who would, weren’t they the ones who kicked and freed southern Lebanon in the previous war? Shame, Shame on you is all I could say, you don't deserve to stand on the soils of beautiful Lebanon!
:!:

[mendosan]

Arabian_Princess wrote: Oh , your such a patriot to actually suggest and want that. Shame on you, your fellow Lebanese citizens, children and women dieing and your sitting typing away blaming the Muslims for all your misery!
Hezbollah are the resisters in your homeland not cowards like yourself! They are fighting for your prisoners of war who are held in Israeli prisons. If Hezbollah doesn’t fight for you who would, weren’t they the ones who kicked and freed southern Lebanon in the previous war? Shame, Shame on you is all I could say, you don't deserve to stand on the soils of beautiful Lebanon!
:!:

Maybe he thinks that Hez brought this misery to his Beautiful land, maybe he believes that Hez acts of aggresion on Israel now mean his family and friends have to live in fear of Israeli bombs.

[previsionary]

mendosan wrote:
Maybe he thinks that Hez brought this misery to his Beautiful land,

Well maybe she thought that Hez was forced to resist the misery brought on to Lebanon by Israel in the past 50 years.

mendosan wrote: maybe he believes that Hez acts of aggresion on Israel now mean his family and friends have to live in fear of Israeli bombs.


So you mean Lebanese citizens are not feeling the acts of agression from Israel from the past, present, and in the future.

[superskippy]

Quote: Well maybe she thought that Hez was forced to resist the misery brought on to Lebanon by Israel in the past 50 years.

50 years? Well now thats a stretch I havent heard yet. We didnt even get involved in Lebanon until 1982 and that reach the 20th anniversary in 2002. So wheres that number coming from I wonder.

[previsionary]

superskippy wrote:
50 years? Well now thats a stretch I havent heard yet. We didnt even get involved in Lebanon until 1982 and that reach the 20th anniversary in 2002. So wheres that number coming from I wonder.

Sorry about that to be exact in 1978 was the first invasion not 1982.

[mendosan]

Quote: Well maybe she thought that Hez was forced to resist the misery brought on to Lebanon by Israel in the past 50 years.

So they do that by crossing the blue line with Israel killing some of its uniformed military and taking two captives, after Israel had withdrawn from south Lebanon, and after a UN resolution had called for its disarmament along with the other Militias in Lebanon.

Quote: So you mean Lebanese citizens are not feeling the acts of aggression from Israel from the past, present, and in the future.

That doesn't make sense, and I don't see how it reflects on my comment, either address what I have written or don't quote me.

[previsionary]

mendosan wrote: Quote: Well maybe she thought that Hez was forced to resist the misery brought on to Lebanon by Israel in the past 50 years.

So they do that by crossing the blue line with Israel killing some of its uniformed military and taking two captives, after Israel had withdrawn from south Lebanon, and after a UN resolution had called for its disarmament along with the other Militias in Lebanon.

Quote: So you mean Lebanese citizens are not feeling the acts of aggression from Israel from the past, present, and in the future.

That doesn't make sense, and I don't see how it reflects on my comment, either address what I have written or don't quote me.


This might be one reason why the two captives were taken.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/746274.html

You said, "Maybe he thinks that Hez brought this misery to his Beautiful land, maybe he believes that Hez acts of aggresion on Israel now mean his family and friends have to live in fear of Israeli bombs."

In your second phrase you say Hez agression on israel created this fear within his friends and family. My point is when is one time when Israel came into or attacked Lebanon weren't the Lebanese in "fear".

[superskippy]

So now your adding a pretext even Hezbollah has not proclaimed for this current conflict? Do you honestly support Hezbollah under your cited cassus belli for attack?

[mendosan]

Quote: In your second phrase you say Hez agression on israel created this fear within his friends and family. My point is when is one time when Israel came into or attacked Lebanon weren't the Lebanese in "fear".

Nope I inferred that Hezbollah sowed the wind, and now ordinary Lebanese Christian and Muslim reap the whirlwind.

As for your attempts to justify, Hezbollah's aggression toward Israel I have nothing but contempt even vehemently anti-Israeli members of this forum have accepted Hezbollah aggression was the Initial catalyst for the current conflict.

[previsionary]

superskippy wrote: So now your adding a pretext even Hezbollah has not proclaimed for this current conflict?

They have not proclaimed but it has been mentioned by Nasrallah in his interview with Aljazera on July 20, 2006. This is the excert:

[Bin-Jiddu] Your Eminence, let's put the other parties aside. You have a memorandum of understanding with General Awn. Has what is currently taking place shaken the pillars of the memorandum of understanding and your cooperation with the Free Patriotic Movement?

[Nasrallah] No, not at all. First, the memorandum of understanding talked clearly about first releasing the prisoners and liberating the rest of the [occupied] Lebanese territories, and afterward discussing a strategy for national defence. This is what we began to discuss. Hezbollah has neither taken advantage of Lebanon to liberate Palestine, nor worked towards restoring the seven villages, which are Lebanese territories. It carried out an operation to capture [Israeli soldiers], because the government's policy statement stipulates the release of prisoners and the liberation of Lebanese territories. So, what we did is a national Lebanese action, even in the regional sense of the word. This [operation] was carried out within, not outside, the context of the memorandum of understanding signed between us and the Free Patriotic Movement.


superskippy wrote: Do you honestly support Hezbollah under your cited cassus belli for attack?

Well as long as there is Lebanese land or Prisoners with Israel than hezbollah has a right to attack.


mendosan wrote:
As for your attempts to justify, Hezbollah's aggression toward Israel I have nothing but contempt even vehemently anti-Israeli members of this forum have accepted Hezbollah aggression was the Initial catalyst for the current conflict.

No...really?? That was the whole point is to instigate the enemy to return what is proclaimed to be theres.

[superskippy]

Quote: Well as long as there is Lebanese land or Prisoners with Israel than hezbollah has a right to attack.

Really what land do you yourself actually think is occupied?

[cap'n queasy]

Arabian_Princess wrote: Oh , your such a patriot to actually suggest and want that. Shame on you, your fellow Lebanese citizens, children and women dieing and your sitting typing away blaming the Muslims for all your misery!
Hezbollah are the resisters in your homeland not cowards like yourself! They are fighting for your prisoners of war who are held in Israeli prisons. If Hezbollah doesn’t fight for you who would, weren’t they the ones who kicked and freed southern Lebanon in the previous war? Shame, Shame on you is all I could say, you don't deserve to stand on the soils of beautiful Lebanon!
:!:

Oh, now Hezbollah tells the Lebanese they don't deserve their country as much as Hezbollah does.

Lovely.

I have news for you, those are Hezbollah terrorists that are justly imprisoned.

If it weren't for Hezbollah there wouldn't be a fight. This war is ALL their fault. THEY imprisoned southern Lebanon to use as a tool in a struggle they created and then launched an attack from there, ensuring it's destruction as a sacrifice on the altar of radical Islam.

[cap'n queasy]

Quote: They have not proclaimed but it has been mentioned by Nasrallah

Nasrullah is a criminal with a bounty on his head. He has no credibility, hiding in Iran while Lebanese die for his cause, in a war he started.

[Killer]

michel wrote: Split the damn country up just like they did with bosnia/herzegovinia.
We Christians are sick and tired of Moslems violence and killings.
50/50 with christians and moslems getting half of each, that's the solution to the problems of lebanon.

In 5 yrs they will surely see the advancement of christian lebanon in contrast to feudal 5th century theology moslem lebanon.
Moslem lebanon can then wage war against israel everyday if they wanted too, and let's see what will happen to them.
Culturally and spiritually we are not compatible with the moslems anyway.
Emille lahoud can live in the moslem side of town for all we care.

Hey everyone check this http://www.politicalcrossfire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=61933

[Arabian_Princess]

I strongly agree with previsionary’s point
Quote: Well as long as there is Lebanese land or Prisoners with Israel than hezbollah has a right to attack.
I'm not a 100% supporter of Hezbollah but atleast they are fighting back for their land. They cannot just sit and watch Israeli missiles destroying their lands and murdering and slaughtering their innocent civilians.
I strongly believe this war shouldn’t have started from the first place. Both sides could’ve negotiated instead of starting an endless war!!! If Israeli really cared for the lives of their two soldiers they wouldn’t have put the two soldiers lives in risk and jeopardy, knowing that they are in the hands of Hezbollah. Instead they waged a war on Southern Lebanon thinking this is a solution that would bring back their two soldiers safely back home! This what they want the world to believe, and we ARABS understand why they are doing that. Of course to destory Hezbollah and any possible threat from other powerful nations in the region to secure their safety. And also to know and assure themselves that they are the only country in the region that is powerful and with power comes control and fear!

cap'n queasy wrote: Arabian_Princess wrote: Oh , your such a patriot to actually suggest and want that. Shame on you, your fellow Lebanese citizens, children and women dieing and your sitting typing away blaming the Muslims for all your misery!
Hezbollah are the resisters in your homeland not cowards like yourself! They are fighting for your prisoners of war who are held in Israeli prisons. If Hezbollah doesn’t fight for you who would, weren’t they the ones who kicked and freed southern Lebanon in the previous war? Shame, Shame on you is all I could say, you don't deserve to stand on the soils of beautiful Lebanon!
:!:

Oh, now Hezbollah tells the Lebanese they don't deserve their country as much as Hezbollah does.

Lovely.

I have news for you, those are Hezbollah terrorists that are justly imprisoned.

If it weren't for Hezbollah there wouldn't be a fight. This war is ALL their fault. THEY imprisoned southern Lebanon to use as a tool in a struggle they created and then launched an attack from there, ensuring it's destruction as a sacrifice on the altar of radical Islam.

That is exactly what "they" want you to believe. Labelling them TERRORISTS (because Hezbollah causes a threat to ISRAEL) would easily get the approval of the WORLD to get RID of Hezbollah!
I advise you to please go learn some history about the region ( and check your sources they better not be bias) and to be more exact about Hezbollah. How did they start? What and how was their role in lebanon? and what did they actually do throught the history of lebanon? They are NOT terrorists (they've been just labelled recently, so they could get rid of them easily!) Hezbollah are considered resisters and HEROS whom fought back aganist invaders and occupiers the previous war!

[previsionary]

superskippy wrote: Quote: Well as long as there is Lebanese land or Prisoners with Israel than hezbollah has a right to attack.

Really what land do you yourself actually think is occupied?

This video summarizes my opinion on the current conflict very well.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/video/videoplayer/0,,31200-galloway_060806,00.html

To directly answer your question Sheeba farms and the seven villages.