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Lucky Luke · Joined: 28 Oct 2005 Posts: 8662 Location: Scotland

lilwolf wrote: Because I do not think he is out of hot water yet nor is the police bozo that assisted in carrying out the order. That is why you should listen.
So what if he was re-elected. That does not make him immune from prosecution and the statute of limitations is not over yet (by along shot).

Don't spin it LL. Gun confiscation did not happen legally and you know it.

I do not recall saying that the "good people" of New Orleans hated their mayor. When the final investigation is complete someones butt is going to burn on it because a criminal offense has happened. He's not out of hot water as yet LL. Time will tell. Personally I hope they prosecute him and the police bozo that assisted him. But rest assured someone in charge is going to get prosecuted. :-D :-D

It happened legally Lilwolf until proven otherwise, are you ready to wait a century for the mayor of New Orleans to be prosecuted, are you making yourself another American myth?
What will gun lovers say in a century, that people like you defended the second amendment with their lives in New Orleans?

You are all talk Lilwolf, Nagin certainly is not.

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lilwolf · Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 14445 Location: idaho

No the legality of what happened there was purely unconstitutional LL. The people responsible for it will pay. They are not out of the hot water as yet. Like it or not LL.
I hope that in 100 years people say that people like me or any gun owner stood up for the 2nd Amendment.
Nagin broke the law (in my opinion) and if he is found guilty in a US court of law he will pay as will anyone else that was attached to the illegal gun confiscation.
Our system may not move fast LL but it does move.

Lucky Luke · Joined: 28 Oct 2005 Posts: 8662 Location: Scotland

lilwolf wrote: No the legality of what happened there was purely unconstitutional LL. The people responsible for it will pay. They are not out of the hot water as yet. Like it or not LL.
I hope that in 100 years people say that people like me or any gun owner stood up for the 2nd Amendment.
Nagin broke the law (in my opinion) and if he is found guilty in a US court of law he will pay as will anyone else that was attached to the illegal gun confiscation.
Our system may not move fast LL but it does move.

They have not been charged Lilwolf, wake up!

Your opinion is worthless regarding Nagin, Nagin is the mayor of New Orleans and you are living in denial.

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lilwolf · Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 14445 Location: idaho

Pure Spin on words LL. If it makes you feel better I will use the word for you here and now "CHARGED".

I know I never said he had been charged because he has not (yet). I said if he was foound guilty in a US court of law he will as will anyone else that was attached to the illegal gun confiscation.
So what if he's the mayor. Is he above the law. You said on one of these threads that no one is above the law.
So if you do not like what I said about him not being charged (yet) that just to bad. Your argument is falling to the point of spin. Real bad LL real bad. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Lucky Luke · Joined: 28 Oct 2005 Posts: 8662 Location: Scotland

lilwolf wrote: Pure Spin on words LL. If it makes you feel better I will use the word for you here and now "CHARGED".

I know I never said he had been charged because he has not (yet). I said if he was foound guilty in a US court of law he will as will anyone else that was attached to the illegal gun confiscation.
So what if he's the mayor. Is he above the law. You said on one of these threads that no one is above the law.
So if you do not like what I said about him not being charged (yet) that just to bad. Your argument is falling to the point of spin. Real bad LL real bad. :lol: :lol: :lol:

I am not playing with words Lilwolf, I am telling you that if mayor Nagin was a criminal he would be arrested by now and he isn't. Your argument is pathetic, I heard it made in the aftermath of Katrina, I heard a few gun lovers still telling us this before Nagin got elected but now Lilwolf! Now you are a very lonely voice and if you want Nagin charged, you'll have to do it yourself.

I can't see how my argument is failing when Nagin is free and mayor, again.
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RooK · Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Posts: 2006 Location: SE Kentucky

The only way a politician can be arrested, is if he murders someone or does something to tick off his peers or opposition. Rarely does a politician get punished for overstepping their authority, and the courts are usually too slow to do something or don't care (ie don't hear the case). Arguing whether a politician is a criminal or not is a fruitless discussion, all we really know is if they got caught.

Lucky Luke · Joined: 28 Oct 2005 Posts: 8662 Location: Scotland

RooK wrote: The only way a politician can be arrested, is if he murders someone or does something to tick off his peers or opposition. Rarely does a politician get punished for overstepping their authority, and the courts are usually too slow to do something or don't care (ie don't hear the case). Arguing whether a politician is a criminal or not is a fruitless discussion, all we really know is if they got caught.

This is a very different case, Nagin is not hiding and we all know what he did. There could be only one reason why there are no criminal proceedings against Nagin, it is because there is no case.

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lilwolf · Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 14445 Location: idaho

It's not over yet LL. It's not over. End of conversation on that .

Lucky Luke · Joined: 28 Oct 2005 Posts: 8662 Location: Scotland

lilwolf wrote: It's not over yet LL. It's not over. End of conversation on that .

It is over.

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airo · Joined: 31 Jul 2004 Posts: 2583 Location: Tampa, Florida

Wait... Gun confiscation in NOLA?

I'm sorry, but i've said it before: I know of a couple people who open carried, AROUND LEOS, and no one tried to take their firearms away.

Likewise, i even remember seeing an arfcom thread where a man went around taking pictures, and his Glock 17 could be easily seen in a OWB holster.

If confiscation DID happen, it was few and far in between, and most importantly, exagerated.

Lucky Luke · Joined: 28 Oct 2005 Posts: 8662 Location: Scotland

airo wrote: Wait... Gun confiscation in NOLA?

I'm sorry, but i've said it before: I know of a couple people who open carried, AROUND LEOS, and no one tried to take their firearms away.

Likewise, i even remember seeing an arfcom thread where a man went around taking pictures, and his Glock 17 could be easily seen in a OWB holster.

If confiscation DID happen, it was few and far in between, and most importantly, exagerated.

Enjoy your debate with Lilwolf, I'll be watching.

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lilwolf · Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 14445 Location: idaho

Gun confiscation did happen on a very small scale and it indeed was grossly exagerated and over played to suit media..

I am pretty sure that most all of the people that had a legal right to own and possess a weapon probably got there weapons returned.

LL politicians are aressted for a variety of crimes like embezzelment and the like, so what gives you any standing on your statement that he has gotten away with it. Ended here on Nagin