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Skywalker · Joined: 22 Jul 2006 Posts: 29

this IDF or IAF or whatever it is, is prooving to be yet again a great army... not only they target civilians and an old water well digger (which they obviously thought it was a katyusha truck... hahaha) but their appache's are falling from the skies!! that was one hell of a laugh... i needed that :)... guys ur choppers are colliding in each other, running into electricity wire, u name it!! i mean... are u really up to the job?

superskippy · Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 8673 Location: Petah Tikva

It was a Helicopter collision. They were malfunctioning and collided, no soldiers were killed 4 were wounded, the wrecks have been salvaged and are being repaired to put back in action.

Skywalker · Joined: 22 Jul 2006 Posts: 29

superskippy wrote: It was a Helicopter collision. They were malfunctioning and collided, no soldiers were killed 4 were wounded, the wrecks have been salvaged and are being repaired to put back in action.

man, the crew died... try CNN insted of ur national tv and if u didnt know about what happened today in safad i say again, check CNN and u'll see that a chopper ran into some electricity wires and crashed and pilot died... something wrong in ur head?? i mean can u read?? or at least see right?

superskippy · Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 8673 Location: Petah Tikva

I was using Reuters and a multitude of other sources http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L20837472.htm.

Other reports appear to say 1 pilot was killed. But they all list at least 5 of the crew surviving, a few say both pilots were killed. Either way it is a tragic accident.

Skywalker · Joined: 22 Jul 2006 Posts: 29

u describe it in any way u want... i'll still say that it was funny knowing that the well trained army of israel (which is considered better than the US's according to many army magazines) could end up in such a "tragic event" >>> running into electricity wires!!! hahahahaha.... :)

Pelagius · Joined: 11 Feb 2005 Posts: 888

superskippy wrote: It was a Helicopter collision. They were malfunctioning and collided, no soldiers were killed 4 were wounded, the wrecks have been salvaged and are being repaired to put back in action.

You just ruined his day....how heatless of you!..;)

superskippy · Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 8673 Location: Petah Tikva

Skywalker wrote: u describe it in any way u want... i'll still say that it was funny knowing that the well trained army of israel (which is considered better than the US's according to many army magazines) could end up in such a "tragic event" >>> running into electricity wires!!! hahahahaha.... :)

It was a collision not a run into electrical wires. Even Al-Jazeera and Arab media accept that for example the Khaleej Times of the UAE if that will sway you.

vadardenza · Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Posts: 7

You can't read US or Israeli or Arab news to get the facts. Even the British press is gagged by the UK government because of their involvement with the US. You need to read European press that have resources and people on the ground. French, Italian, German, Spanish, etc. They have no axe to grind, the others are propaganda.

Duchifas · Joined: 22 Jun 2004 Posts: 9950

Skywalker wrote: this IDF or IAF or whatever it is...

Actually, it's a functional army. I can understand why the concept can baffle someone from an Arab country, seeing that you guys haven't had once since the 7th century. :roll:

ToonArmyIsComing · Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Posts: 5888 Location: Ontario

Celebrating people's death is the most horrible thing that one could do. I would say the same even if Saddam or Hitler died.

superskippy · Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 8673 Location: Petah Tikva

I cannot agree with that in such absolute terms such as for Hitler.

Kane · Joined: 27 Apr 2006 Posts: 12677 Location: Bay Area, CA

ToonArmyIsComing wrote: Celebrating people's death is the most horrible thing that one could do. I would say the same even if Saddam or Hitler died.

I agree completely. Watching the celebration of Scott Peterson getting the death penalty on television affected me greatly...

previsionary · Joined: 14 Jul 2006 Posts: 86 Location: CHI-TOWN

Skywalker has a point it was all over the news. aljazeera, cnn, bbc, etc. Seems like what Nasrallah said today with Israel lieing to their people and to the world is true.

Kane · Joined: 27 Apr 2006 Posts: 12677 Location: Bay Area, CA

previsionary wrote: Skywalker has a point it was all over the news. aljazeera, cnn, bbc, etc. Seems like what Nasrallah said today with Israel lieing to their people and to the world is true.

They didn't lie...it was described as a "mid-air" collission. A collission with what had yet to be enumerated upon. Now we know...and just as Skywalkers post has...it changes nothing.

previsionary · Joined: 14 Jul 2006 Posts: 86 Location: CHI-TOWN

Quote:
They didn't lie...it was described as a "mid-air" collission. A collission with what had yet to be enumerated upon. Now we know...and just as Skywalkers post has...it changes nothing.

I doubt it will be enumerated upon honestly. The Israeli media has been covering up a lot of s**t. Thats when you compare to what the European media is reporting.

Kane · Joined: 27 Apr 2006 Posts: 12677 Location: Bay Area, CA

previsionary wrote: Quote:
They didn't lie...it was described as a "mid-air" collission. A collission with what had yet to be enumerated upon. Now we know...and just as Skywalkers post has...it changes nothing.

I doubt it will be enumerated upon honestly. The Israeli media has been covering up a lot of s**t. Thats when you compare to what the European media is reporting.

I need elaboration and proof.

23KIA · Joined: 19 Feb 2006 Posts: 56 Location: Right Behind You

Duchifas wrote: Skywalker wrote: this IDF or IAF or whatever it is...

Actually, it's a functional army. I can understand why the concept can baffle someone from an Arab country, seeing that you guys haven't had once since the 7th century. :roll:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

ToonArmyIsComing · Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Posts: 5888 Location: Ontario

previsionary wrote: I doubt it will be enumerated upon honestly. The Israeli media has been covering up a lot of s**t. Thats when you compare to what the European media is reporting.

That is actually an increasingly disturbing phenomenon. We have the Israel and the American media feeding their people a distorted image to conjure up support for the policies of their regimes and on the other side we have the Arab media basically doing the same with respect to Hezbollah.

So in total, what we are getting is a wide scale attempt to influence the public opinion (either intentionally or unintentionally), which will distort the public opinion and only feed the hatred and prejudice prevalent among the people.

23KIA · Joined: 19 Feb 2006 Posts: 56 Location: Right Behind You

ToonArmyIsComing wrote: previsionary wrote: I doubt it will be enumerated upon honestly. The Israeli media has been covering up a lot of s**t. Thats when you compare to what the European media is reporting.

That is actually an increasingly disturbing phenomenon. We have the Israel and the American media feeding their people a distorted image to conjure up support for the policies of their regimes and on the other side we have the Arab media basically doing the same with respect to Hezbollah.

So in total, what we are getting is a wide scale attempt to influence the public opinion (either intentionally or unintentionally), which will distort the public opinion and only feed the hatred and prejudice prevalent among the people.

Correct.

ToonArmyIsComing · Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Posts: 5888 Location: Ontario

Duchifas wrote: Skywalker wrote: this IDF or IAF or whatever it is...

Actually, it's a functional army. I can understand why the concept can baffle someone from an Arab country, seeing that you guys haven't had once since the 7th century. :roll:

That's true to some extent.

Though, if I am not mistaken, Saladin came after 7th century.