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[thatisnotme]

Muslima wrote:

...what if the situation was reversed?...


If I were a Muslim I would ask all those groups who are fighting Israel to lay down their arms. I would ask them to use their brains and energy to build a Palestinian state -- vibrant, open and prosperious. That would be the greatest revenge, and the most productive for the whole wide world.

[Muslima]

thatisnotme wrote: Muslima wrote:

...what if the situation was reversed?...


If I were a Muslim I would ask all those groups who are fighting Israel to lay down their arms. I would ask them to use their brains and energy to build a Palestinian state -- vibrant, open and prosperious. That would be the greatest revenge, and the most productive for the whole wide world.

yeah, i know it the most civilised way, if i had powers i would do that too, under one condition........if had an eternity guarantee from israel that they wouldn't try to destroy the muslims and kill them for no reason.

[Kane]

Muslima wrote: thatisnotme wrote: Muslima wrote:

...what if the situation was reversed?...


If I were a Muslim I would ask all those groups who are fighting Israel to lay down their arms. I would ask them to use their brains and energy to build a Palestinian state -- vibrant, open and prosperious. That would be the greatest revenge, and the most productive for the whole wide world.

yeah, i know it the most civilised way, if i had powers i would do that too, under one condition........if had an eternity guarantee from israel that they wouldn't try to destroy the muslims and kill them for no reason.

Violence only begets violence so...this cycle will only end when one side decides to take a hit...and not retaliate.

If the hits keep coming and the innocent continue to be killed then the other will be shown for what it truly is for the rest of the world to see...

Rockets raining down from the north and Gaza, suicide bombers targeting civilians, kidnapping's and surgical hit and run strikes do not denote such. Both sides will continue to fight so long as neither is able to accept the situation for what it really is: a continuation of events precipitated by the actions of yesterday.

[henrilegrand]

[quote="Muslima"][quote="thatisnotme"][quote="Muslima"]

...what if the situation was reversed?...
[/quote]

If I were a Muslim I would ask all those groups who are fighting Israel to lay down their arms. I would ask them to use their brains and energy to build a Palestinian state -- vibrant, open and prosperious. That would be the greatest revenge, and the most productive for the whole wide world.[/quote]

yeah, i know it the most civilised way, if i had powers i would do that too, under one condition........if had an eternity guarantee from israel that they wouldn't try to destroy the muslims and kill them for no reason.[/quote]

*****

Israel doesn't know what 'civilised way' means.

That country is created based on the Zionist doctrine: TERROR.

Zionist Terror is: mass expulsions, destroying the Palestinian infrastructure, massacres, raping girls/women/old womwn and later slaughter them, burning out the Palestinian habitat, etc.

The Zionist will never stop it, because the American Government is paying $8 billion a year of our tax money since 1973 to keep those 'diaspora' Jews doing it.
God bless America, Sieg Heil Zion, immer gerade aus!

[Kane]

Sigh. :gdgf:

[superskippy]

You learn to just ignore Henri it's ok Kane.

[henrilegrand]

[quote="superskippy"]You learn to just ignore Henri it's ok Kane.[/quote]

*****

You must be feeling the heat from Hizbollahs rockets?

[thatisnotme]

henrilegrand wrote: Muslima wrote: thatisnotme wrote: Muslima wrote:

...what if the situation was reversed?...


If I were a Muslim I would ask all those groups who are fighting Israel to lay down their arms. I would ask them to use their brains and energy to build a Palestinian state -- vibrant, open and prosperious. That would be the greatest revenge, and the most productive for the whole wide world.

yeah, i know it the most civilised way, if i had powers i would do that too, under one condition........if had an eternity guarantee from israel that they wouldn't try to destroy the muslims and kill them for no reason.

*****

Israel doesn't know what 'civilised way' means.

That country is created based on the Zionist doctrine: TERROR.

Zionist Terror is: mass expulsions, destroying the Palestinian infrastructure, massacres, raping girls/women/old womwn and later slaughter them, burning out the Palestinian habitat, etc.

The Zionist will never stop it, because the American Government is paying $8 billion a year of our tax money since 1973 to keep those 'diaspora' Jews doing it.
God bless America, Sieg Heil Zion, immer gerade aus!

If that was Israel aim, it would have been accomplished decades ago. Israel power has no match in the region. It could annihilate the Palestinians tomorrow if it wanted to do so. So your theory doesn't correspond to reality but only to your hatred for Jews.

[Muslima]

you remind of a verse from the quran

"......and a witness of her household
bore witness....." [yusuf; 26]

it seems skippy has nothing convincing to say, i am relieved!

[Zeeman]

This is an outrage..If America and Britian agreed to impose a cease fire this wouldnt have happened.Instead they let this go on and send precision guided missiles to Israel.Bravo to the honest broker..

I can understand this from Zionist Lobby controlled US,but what about the people of the US and the rest of the world.

[henrilegrand]

[quote="thatisnotme"][quote="henrilegrand"][quote="Muslima"][quote="thatisnotme"][quote="Muslima"]

...what if the situation was reversed?...
[/quote]

If I were a Muslim I would ask all those groups who are fighting Israel to lay down their arms. I would ask them to use their brains and energy to build a Palestinian state -- vibrant, open and prosperious. That would be the greatest revenge, and the most productive for the whole wide world.[/quote]

yeah, i know it the most civilised way, if i had powers i would do that too, under one condition........if had an eternity guarantee from israel that they wouldn't try to destroy the muslims and kill them for no reason.[/quote]

*****

Israel doesn't know what 'civilised way' means.

That country is created based on the Zionist doctrine: TERROR.

Zionist Terror is: mass expulsions, destroying the Palestinian infrastructure, massacres, raping girls/women/old womwn and later slaughter them, burning out the Palestinian habitat, etc.

The Zionist will never stop it, because the American Government is paying $8 billion a year of our tax money since 1973 to keep those 'diaspora' Jews doing it.
God bless America, Sieg Heil Zion, immer gerade aus![/quote]

If that was Israel aim, it would have been accomplished decades ago. Israel power has no match in the region. It could annihilate the Palestinians tomorrow if it wanted to do so. So your theory doesn't correspond to reality but only to your hatred for Jews.[/quote]

*****

>>So your theory doesn't correspond to reality...<<

Really?

Yitzhak Shamir: " First and foremost, terror is for us a part of the political war appropriate for the circumstances of today..." (August 1943)

Ariel Sharon: "I wanted to encourage my soldiers by raping Arabic girls as the Palestinian women is a slave for Jews, and we do whatever we want to her and nobody tells us what we shall do but we tell others what they shall do" (1956)

General Richard Catling, British Army Assistant Inspector, after interviewing female survivors of the Deir Yassin massacre 9/4/1948:
"There is no doubt that many sexual atrocities were committed by the attacking Jews. Many young girls were raped and later slaughtered. Old women were also molested".

"When the subject is torture, there can be no "middle-of-the-road" policy. no compromise, no putting our head in the sand, no flexible and lenient formulas. The considerable experience that has been accumulated on this issue clearly demonstrate the need for a vigilant and uncompromising moral stance" - Ha'aretz Editorial. 12/13/1999, on Israel's attempt to find ways to allow torture under "special circumstances".

Thus the immaculate "civil-ness" of Zionist Israel morality, 'appropriate for the circumstances of today'.

>>...but only to your hatred for Jews<<

Really?

http://deathmasters.com/
ISRAELI CRIMES: Details and Numbers of the Nazi Jews activities:

The Nobel Prize of Literature winner Jose Saramango compares the suffering of the Palestinians under Israeli occupation as the same suffering of the Jews in the Nazi boot camps.
"The repression from Israel is the worst form of Apartheid. Nobody has the faintest idea of what is going on here, even the best informed people.
Everything is in pieces, the land is destroyed and nothing else may be planted. All this smells like a boot camp, like Auschwitz.
The Israeli have turned into NAZI JEWS". he declared after a visit to Palestine in March, 2002.

And last but not least, Jesus said:

"You are children of the devil, you are murderers and liars" (John 8:44)

"You stiff-necked people, uncircumsised in heart and ears, you always resist the Holy Spirit. As your fathers did, so do you. Which of the prophets did not your fathers persecute? And they killed those who announced beforehand the coming of the Righteous One, whom you have now betrayed and murdered, you who received the law and delivered by angels and did not keep it". (Acts 7;51-53)

The topic is the civilised 'manner' of Israel, not the ability of Israel to annihilate the Arabs tomorrow.

It seems that $8 billion a year since 1973, that is more than $100 billion so far of American taxpayers money to help the Israeli Zionist breathing was not enough to exterminate the Arabs yesterday, n'est-ce pas mon ami?

[SpartanPhalanx]

henrilegrand wrote: thatisnotme wrote: henrilegrand wrote: Muslima wrote: thatisnotme wrote: Muslima wrote:

...what if the situation was reversed?...


If I were a Muslim I would ask all those groups who are fighting Israel to lay down their arms. I would ask them to use their brains and energy to build a Palestinian state -- vibrant, open and prosperious. That would be the greatest revenge, and the most productive for the whole wide world.

yeah, i know it the most civilised way, if i had powers i would do that too, under one condition........if had an eternity guarantee from israel that they wouldn't try to destroy the muslims and kill them for no reason.

*****

Israel doesn't know what 'civilised way' means.

That country is created based on the Zionist doctrine: TERROR.

Zionist Terror is: mass expulsions, destroying the Palestinian infrastructure, massacres, raping girls/women/old womwn and later slaughter them, burning out the Palestinian habitat, etc.

The Zionist will never stop it, because the American Government is paying $8 billion a year of our tax money since 1973 to keep those 'diaspora' Jews doing it.
God bless America, Sieg Heil Zion, immer gerade aus!

If that was Israel aim, it would have been accomplished decades ago. Israel power has no match in the region. It could annihilate the Palestinians tomorrow if it wanted to do so. So your theory doesn't correspond to reality but only to your hatred for Jews.

*****

>>So your theory doesn't correspond to reality...<<

Really?

Yitzhak Shamir: " First and foremost, terror is for us a part of the political war appropriate for the circumstances of today..." (August 1943)

Ariel Sharon: "I wanted to encourage my soldiers by raping Arabic girls as the Palestinian women is a slave for Jews, and we do whatever we want to her and nobody tells us what we shall do but we tell others what they shall do" (1956)

General Richard Catling, British Army Assistant Inspector, after interviewing female survivors of the Deir Yassin massacre 9/4/1948:
"There is no doubt that many sexual atrocities were committed by the attacking Jews. Many young girls were raped and later slaughtered. Old women were also molested".

"When the subject is torture, there can be no "middle-of-the-road" policy. no compromise, no putting our head in the sand, no flexible and lenient formulas. The considerable experience that has been accumulated on this issue clearly demonstrate the need for a vigilant and uncompromising moral stance" - Ha'aretz Editorial. 12/13/1999, on Israel's attempt to find ways to allow torture under "special circumstances".

Thus the immaculate "civil-ness" of Zionist Israel morality, 'appropriate for the circumstances of today'.

>>...but only to your hatred for Jews<<

Really?

http://deathmasters.com/
ISRAELI CRIMES: Details and Numbers of the Nazi Jews activities:

The Nobel Prize of Literature winner Jose Saramango compares the suffering of the Palestinians under Israeli occupation as the same suffering of the Jews in the Nazi boot camps.
"The repression from Israel is the worst form of Apartheid. Nobody has the faintest idea of what is going on here, even the best informed people.
Everything is in pieces, the land is destroyed and nothing else may be planted. All this smells like a boot camp, like Auschwitz.
The Israeli have turned into NAZI JEWS". he declared after a visit to Palestine in March, 2002.

And last but not least, Jesus said:

"You are children of the devil, you are murderers and liars" (John 8:44)

"You stiff-necked people, uncircumsised in heart and ears, you always resist the Holy Spirit. As your fathers did, so do you. Which of the prophets did not your fathers persecute? And they killed those who announced beforehand the coming of the Righteous One, whom you have now betrayed and murdered, you who received the law and delivered by angels and did not keep it". (Acts 7;51-53)

The topic is the civilised 'manner' of Israel, not the ability of Israel to annihilate the Arabs tomorrow.

It seems that $8 billion a year since 1973, that is more than $100 billion so far of American taxpayers money to help the Israeli Zionist breathing was not enough to exterminate the Arabs yesterday, n'est-ce pas mon ami?


Indeed Henri....Now we are seeing the true naked ugliness of Zionism and its horrors. Today, 56 people, many of them children were murdered by Israel today with Amirican bombs.

Shame on Israel, shame on the United States

[Kane]

You guys certainly are hellbent on this whole Zionism thing...

Kinda sad really. If it was a move to take over more land...it would be done. If it was an attempt at exterminating the civilians...there would be far more deaths.

What's there to argue here (This coming from a guy that doesn't support the widespread Israeli military activites in Lebanon...but likes to think his moderation will keep him sane)?

[X-Shocker]

SpartanPhalanx wrote:


Indeed Henri....Now we are seeing the true naked ugliness of Zionism and its horrors. Today, 56 people, many of them children were murdered by Israel today with Amirican bombs.

Shame on Israel, shame on the United States

Wake up, people of the lesser armed nations. We, Americans, have nothing to do with this Israel/Hezbullah conflict. All Lebonan has to do is arrest the Hezbullahs and hand over the two kidnapped soldiers and the problem would be solved.

Leave the powerful nations alone. We are sick of you cry-babies. You can not handle the cookies, so stop sticking your hands into the cookie jar.