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[thehollowman]

thundertaker wrote: TwinkieDP wrote: Dude, why didn't the Brits dig up their own shiny stones and make their own crown jewels?

Because Britain is not a place well renowned for being a producer of precious stones........

Yeah, their kinda stuck with limestone, granite, and a bit of copper. Some jewelry. I don't understand why they need to keep the jewels these days. Having been to the Tower of London, I can tell you, they got thousands of them just sitting there.

[antonio62]

Colin wrote: antonio62 wrote: Colin wrote: Perhaps the early stages of the Macedonian kingdom can be considered non-Greek(this of course is very, very debatable and a source of conflict among historians) but by the 4th century B.C. Macedon was heavily Atticized culturally, and its inhabitants spoke a Greek dialect. After the conquests of Alexander Macedon was fully integrated into the greater Hellenistic cultural sphere. Hence during the time of Phillip II and afterwards, Macedonians were included as one of the many subdivisions of the Greek people.

So Rome is also a Greek empire?

Quote: And I never said Athens was or ruled the whole of Greece, rather that it was indeed a Greek empire.

The other guy said the Greek empire not the Athenian empire. The Athenian empire is not the Greek empire.

What? No. Macedon and Rome are completely different in this regard.

Rome copied large parts of Greek culture as did the Macedonians. So they are quite similar in that regard.

[NAB]

antonio62 wrote: Colin wrote: antonio62 wrote: Colin wrote: Perhaps the early stages of the Macedonian kingdom can be considered non-Greek(this of course is very, very debatable and a source of conflict among historians) but by the 4th century B.C. Macedon was heavily Atticized culturally, and its inhabitants spoke a Greek dialect. After the conquests of Alexander Macedon was fully integrated into the greater Hellenistic cultural sphere. Hence during the time of Phillip II and afterwards, Macedonians were included as one of the many subdivisions of the Greek people.

So Rome is also a Greek empire?

Quote: And I never said Athens was or ruled the whole of Greece, rather that it was indeed a Greek empire.

The other guy said the Greek empire not the Athenian empire. The Athenian empire is not the Greek empire.

What? No. Macedon and Rome are completely different in this regard.

Rome copied large parts of Greek culture as did the Macedonians. So they are quite similar in that regard.

You are correct. If I remember correctly, isn't this described by the term Hellenized?

I remember reading somewhere that is was quite the status symbol of wealthy Romans to have a Greek paedagogue in the house.

[Colin]

antonio62 wrote: Colin wrote: antonio62 wrote: Colin wrote: Perhaps the early stages of the Macedonian kingdom can be considered non-Greek(this of course is very, very debatable and a source of conflict among historians) but by the 4th century B.C. Macedon was heavily Atticized culturally, and its inhabitants spoke a Greek dialect. After the conquests of Alexander Macedon was fully integrated into the greater Hellenistic cultural sphere. Hence during the time of Phillip II and afterwards, Macedonians were included as one of the many subdivisions of the Greek people.

So Rome is also a Greek empire?

Quote: And I never said Athens was or ruled the whole of Greece, rather that it was indeed a Greek empire.

The other guy said the Greek empire not the Athenian empire. The Athenian empire is not the Greek empire.

What? No. Macedon and Rome are completely different in this regard.

Rome copied large parts of Greek culture as did the Macedonians. So they are quite similar in that regard.

Did the Romans speak Greek? Did they inhabit Hellas? Did they descend from the same Doric tribes? :-|

[antonio62]

Colin wrote: antonio62 wrote: Colin wrote: antonio62 wrote: Colin wrote: Perhaps the early stages of the Macedonian kingdom can be considered non-Greek(this of course is very, very debatable and a source of conflict among historians) but by the 4th century B.C. Macedon was heavily Atticized culturally, and its inhabitants spoke a Greek dialect. After the conquests of Alexander Macedon was fully integrated into the greater Hellenistic cultural sphere. Hence during the time of Phillip II and afterwards, Macedonians were included as one of the many subdivisions of the Greek people.

So Rome is also a Greek empire?

Quote: And I never said Athens was or ruled the whole of Greece, rather that it was indeed a Greek empire.

The other guy said the Greek empire not the Athenian empire. The Athenian empire is not the Greek empire.

What? No. Macedon and Rome are completely different in this regard.

Rome copied large parts of Greek culture as did the Macedonians. So they are quite similar in that regard.

Did the Romans speak Greek? Did they inhabit Hellas? Did they descend from the same Doric tribes? :-|

Most aristorcrats and scholars spoke Greek and copied Greek culture.

[micfranklin]

The Galactic Empire from Star Wars :wink:

[XiangYu]

micfranklin wrote: The Galactic Empire from Star Wars :wink: You've been brainwashed by George Lucas, the Wizard behind the curtain...