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[lovebush]

antonio62 wrote: satisfaction wrote: Greatest Empire? The New York Yankees of course. Just kidding. :lol:

It depends, greatest empire in terms of influence? How long the empire lasted? Most dominate military? For this, I'll answer "Which is the greatest empire in terms influence on the WESTERN (for this answer, perhaps entire) world?"

My answer will be... Greece.

Greatest invention? Democracy. Oh, so you're watching a movie this weekend? Thank Sophocles. About to post your thoughts on this here forum? Thank Socrates. Joining a fraternity? It's name best be in Greek letters. Our math and science can be attributed to the Greeks (and the Arabs).

In terms of size? Then you wouldn't pick Greece, much of its boundaries were the same as those of today, but allying with Alexander the Great's Macedonian Empire allowed Alexander to transport Greek culture throughout his empire, from Greece to India.

How about military? Well, Greece did not exactly play a strong military role in the world stage, but internally its city-states were at constant war, the war between Athens and Sparta for example. But in times of need, the Greek city-states would ally, during the Persian invasion for example. The Greeks however, especially the city-state of Athens, created a very powerful navy.

Without Greece, you can't have Rome. Rome is Greece with imperial goals, which equals the British, Spaniards, etc.

When did Greece have an empire?

I'm no historian, but I think it was before the Romans when Alexander conquered a huge territory and tried to Hellenize everything leaving the area speaking Greek.

[antonio62]

lovebush wrote: antonio62 wrote: satisfaction wrote: Greatest Empire? The New York Yankees of course. Just kidding. :lol:

It depends, greatest empire in terms of influence? How long the empire lasted? Most dominate military? For this, I'll answer "Which is the greatest empire in terms influence on the WESTERN (for this answer, perhaps entire) world?"

My answer will be... Greece.

Greatest invention? Democracy. Oh, so you're watching a movie this weekend? Thank Sophocles. About to post your thoughts on this here forum? Thank Socrates. Joining a fraternity? It's name best be in Greek letters. Our math and science can be attributed to the Greeks (and the Arabs).

In terms of size? Then you wouldn't pick Greece, much of its boundaries were the same as those of today, but allying with Alexander the Great's Macedonian Empire allowed Alexander to transport Greek culture throughout his empire, from Greece to India.

How about military? Well, Greece did not exactly play a strong military role in the world stage, but internally its city-states were at constant war, the war between Athens and Sparta for example. But in times of need, the Greek city-states would ally, during the Persian invasion for example. The Greeks however, especially the city-state of Athens, created a very powerful navy.

Without Greece, you can't have Rome. Rome is Greece with imperial goals, which equals the British, Spaniards, etc.

When did Greece have an empire?

I'm no historian, but I think it was before the Romans when Alexander conquered a huge territory and tried to Hellenize everything leaving the area speaking Greek.

He was Macedonian.

[The Comrade]

antonio62 wrote: lovebush wrote: antonio62 wrote: satisfaction wrote: Greatest Empire? The New York Yankees of course. Just kidding. :lol:

It depends, greatest empire in terms of influence? How long the empire lasted? Most dominate military? For this, I'll answer "Which is the greatest empire in terms influence on the WESTERN (for this answer, perhaps entire) world?"

My answer will be... Greece.

Greatest invention? Democracy. Oh, so you're watching a movie this weekend? Thank Sophocles. About to post your thoughts on this here forum? Thank Socrates. Joining a fraternity? It's name best be in Greek letters. Our math and science can be attributed to the Greeks (and the Arabs).

In terms of size? Then you wouldn't pick Greece, much of its boundaries were the same as those of today, but allying with Alexander the Great's Macedonian Empire allowed Alexander to transport Greek culture throughout his empire, from Greece to India.

How about military? Well, Greece did not exactly play a strong military role in the world stage, but internally its city-states were at constant war, the war between Athens and Sparta for example. But in times of need, the Greek city-states would ally, during the Persian invasion for example. The Greeks however, especially the city-state of Athens, created a very powerful navy.

Without Greece, you can't have Rome. Rome is Greece with imperial goals, which equals the British, Spaniards, etc.

When did Greece have an empire?

I'm no historian, but I think it was before the Romans when Alexander conquered a huge territory and tried to Hellenize everything leaving the area speaking Greek.

He was Macedonian.

but macedonia was the hate of greece

[antonio62]

The Comrade wrote: antonio62 wrote: lovebush wrote: antonio62 wrote: satisfaction wrote: Greatest Empire? The New York Yankees of course. Just kidding. :lol:

It depends, greatest empire in terms of influence? How long the empire lasted? Most dominate military? For this, I'll answer "Which is the greatest empire in terms influence on the WESTERN (for this answer, perhaps entire) world?"

My answer will be... Greece.

Greatest invention? Democracy. Oh, so you're watching a movie this weekend? Thank Sophocles. About to post your thoughts on this here forum? Thank Socrates. Joining a fraternity? It's name best be in Greek letters. Our math and science can be attributed to the Greeks (and the Arabs).

In terms of size? Then you wouldn't pick Greece, much of its boundaries were the same as those of today, but allying with Alexander the Great's Macedonian Empire allowed Alexander to transport Greek culture throughout his empire, from Greece to India.

How about military? Well, Greece did not exactly play a strong military role in the world stage, but internally its city-states were at constant war, the war between Athens and Sparta for example. But in times of need, the Greek city-states would ally, during the Persian invasion for example. The Greeks however, especially the city-state of Athens, created a very powerful navy.

Without Greece, you can't have Rome. Rome is Greece with imperial goals, which equals the British, Spaniards, etc.

When did Greece have an empire?

I'm no historian, but I think it was before the Romans when Alexander conquered a huge territory and tried to Hellenize everything leaving the area speaking Greek.

He was Macedonian.

but macedonia was the hate of greece

What?

[Colin]

antonio62 wrote: satisfaction wrote: Greatest Empire? The New York Yankees of course. Just kidding. :lol:

It depends, greatest empire in terms of influence? How long the empire lasted? Most dominate military? For this, I'll answer "Which is the greatest empire in terms influence on the WESTERN (for this answer, perhaps entire) world?"

My answer will be... Greece.

Greatest invention? Democracy. Oh, so you're watching a movie this weekend? Thank Sophocles. About to post your thoughts on this here forum? Thank Socrates. Joining a fraternity? It's name best be in Greek letters. Our math and science can be attributed to the Greeks (and the Arabs).

In terms of size? Then you wouldn't pick Greece, much of its boundaries were the same as those of today, but allying with Alexander the Great's Macedonian Empire allowed Alexander to transport Greek culture throughout his empire, from Greece to India.

How about military? Well, Greece did not exactly play a strong military role in the world stage, but internally its city-states were at constant war, the war between Athens and Sparta for example. But in times of need, the Greek city-states would ally, during the Persian invasion for example. The Greeks however, especially the city-state of Athens, created a very powerful navy.

Without Greece, you can't have Rome. Rome is Greece with imperial goals, which equals the British, Spaniards, etc.

When did Greece have an empire?

The Athenian Empire and the Kingdom of Macedonia are examples of influential Greek empires/states.

[The Comrade]

antonio62 wrote: The Comrade wrote: antonio62 wrote: lovebush wrote: antonio62 wrote: satisfaction wrote: Greatest Empire? The New York Yankees of course. Just kidding. :lol:

It depends, greatest empire in terms of influence? How long the empire lasted? Most dominate military? For this, I'll answer "Which is the greatest empire in terms influence on the WESTERN (for this answer, perhaps entire) world?"

My answer will be... Greece.

Greatest invention? Democracy. Oh, so you're watching a movie this weekend? Thank Sophocles. About to post your thoughts on this here forum? Thank Socrates. Joining a fraternity? It's name best be in Greek letters. Our math and science can be attributed to the Greeks (and the Arabs).

In terms of size? Then you wouldn't pick Greece, much of its boundaries were the same as those of today, but allying with Alexander the Great's Macedonian Empire allowed Alexander to transport Greek culture throughout his empire, from Greece to India.

How about military? Well, Greece did not exactly play a strong military role in the world stage, but internally its city-states were at constant war, the war between Athens and Sparta for example. But in times of need, the Greek city-states would ally, during the Persian invasion for example. The Greeks however, especially the city-state of Athens, created a very powerful navy.

Without Greece, you can't have Rome. Rome is Greece with imperial goals, which equals the British, Spaniards, etc.

When did Greece have an empire?

I'm no historian, but I think it was before the Romans when Alexander conquered a huge territory and tried to Hellenize everything leaving the area speaking Greek.

He was Macedonian.

but macedonia was the hate of greece

What?

i meant to say hat, not hate.

[antonio62]

Colin wrote: antonio62 wrote: satisfaction wrote: Greatest Empire? The New York Yankees of course. Just kidding. :lol:

It depends, greatest empire in terms of influence? How long the empire lasted? Most dominate military? For this, I'll answer "Which is the greatest empire in terms influence on the WESTERN (for this answer, perhaps entire) world?"

My answer will be... Greece.

Greatest invention? Democracy. Oh, so you're watching a movie this weekend? Thank Sophocles. About to post your thoughts on this here forum? Thank Socrates. Joining a fraternity? It's name best be in Greek letters. Our math and science can be attributed to the Greeks (and the Arabs).

In terms of size? Then you wouldn't pick Greece, much of its boundaries were the same as those of today, but allying with Alexander the Great's Macedonian Empire allowed Alexander to transport Greek culture throughout his empire, from Greece to India.

How about military? Well, Greece did not exactly play a strong military role in the world stage, but internally its city-states were at constant war, the war between Athens and Sparta for example. But in times of need, the Greek city-states would ally, during the Persian invasion for example. The Greeks however, especially the city-state of Athens, created a very powerful navy.

Without Greece, you can't have Rome. Rome is Greece with imperial goals, which equals the British, Spaniards, etc.

When did Greece have an empire?

The Athenian Empire and the Kingdom of Macedonia are examples of influential Greek empires/states.

Madedonia wsn't Greek and Athens was an empire but wasn't Greece.

[antonio62]

The Comrade wrote: i meant to say hat, not hate.

Hat still doesn't make sense. :?

[Cyro]

antonio62 wrote: The Comrade wrote: i meant to say hat, not hate.

Hat still doesn't make sense. :?

I think he means crown. Like India was considered the 'Jewel in the Crown' of the British empire.

Either that or he means geographically.

[XiangYu]

Cyro wrote: antonio62 wrote: The Comrade wrote: i meant to say hat, not hate.

Hat still doesn't make sense. :?

I think he means crown. Like India was considered the 'Jewel in the Crown' of the British empire.

Either that or he means geographically. Really?! I never knew them Brits held the Indians to such high regard...

[Colin]

antonio62 wrote: Colin wrote: antonio62 wrote: satisfaction wrote: Greatest Empire? The New York Yankees of course. Just kidding. :lol:

It depends, greatest empire in terms of influence? How long the empire lasted? Most dominate military? For this, I'll answer "Which is the greatest empire in terms influence on the WESTERN (for this answer, perhaps entire) world?"

My answer will be... Greece.

Greatest invention? Democracy. Oh, so you're watching a movie this weekend? Thank Sophocles. About to post your thoughts on this here forum? Thank Socrates. Joining a fraternity? It's name best be in Greek letters. Our math and science can be attributed to the Greeks (and the Arabs).

In terms of size? Then you wouldn't pick Greece, much of its boundaries were the same as those of today, but allying with Alexander the Great's Macedonian Empire allowed Alexander to transport Greek culture throughout his empire, from Greece to India.

How about military? Well, Greece did not exactly play a strong military role in the world stage, but internally its city-states were at constant war, the war between Athens and Sparta for example. But in times of need, the Greek city-states would ally, during the Persian invasion for example. The Greeks however, especially the city-state of Athens, created a very powerful navy.

Without Greece, you can't have Rome. Rome is Greece with imperial goals, which equals the British, Spaniards, etc.

When did Greece have an empire?

The Athenian Empire and the Kingdom of Macedonia are examples of influential Greek empires/states.

Madedonia wsn't Greek and Athens was an empire but wasn't Greece.

Perhaps the early stages of the Macedonian kingdom can be considered non-Greek(this of course is very, very debatable and a source of conflict among historians) but by the 4th century B.C. Macedon was heavily Atticized culturally, and its inhabitants spoke a Greek dialect. After the conquests of Alexander Macedon was fully integrated into the greater Hellenistic cultural sphere. Hence during the time of Phillip II and afterwards, Macedonians were included as one of the many subdivisions of the Greek people.

And I never said Athens was or ruled the whole of Greece, rather that it was indeed a Greek empire.

[Cyro]

TwinkieDP wrote: Cyro wrote: antonio62 wrote: The Comrade wrote: i meant to say hat, not hate.

Hat still doesn't make sense. :?

I think he means crown. Like India was considered the 'Jewel in the Crown' of the British empire.

Either that or he means geographically. Really?! I never knew them Brits held the Indians to such high regard...

They had a lot of rare and expensive shiney things.

We love our rare and expensive shiney things.

[antonio62]

Colin wrote: Perhaps the early stages of the Macedonian kingdom can be considered non-Greek(this of course is very, very debatable and a source of conflict among historians) but by the 4th century B.C. Macedon was heavily Atticized culturally, and its inhabitants spoke a Greek dialect. After the conquests of Alexander Macedon was fully integrated into the greater Hellenistic cultural sphere. Hence during the time of Phillip II and afterwards, Macedonians were included as one of the many subdivisions of the Greek people.

So Rome is also a Greek empire?

Quote: And I never said Athens was or ruled the whole of Greece, rather that it was indeed a Greek empire.

The other guy said the Greek empire not the Athenian empire. The Athenian empire is not the Greek empire.

[The Comrade]

antonio62 wrote: The Comrade wrote: i meant to say hat, not hate.

Hat still doesn't make sense. :?

yes it does. macedonia sits right on top of greece. the greeks culture flooded into macedonia as a result of this.

[Colin]

antonio62 wrote: Colin wrote: Perhaps the early stages of the Macedonian kingdom can be considered non-Greek(this of course is very, very debatable and a source of conflict among historians) but by the 4th century B.C. Macedon was heavily Atticized culturally, and its inhabitants spoke a Greek dialect. After the conquests of Alexander Macedon was fully integrated into the greater Hellenistic cultural sphere. Hence during the time of Phillip II and afterwards, Macedonians were included as one of the many subdivisions of the Greek people.

So Rome is also a Greek empire?

Quote: And I never said Athens was or ruled the whole of Greece, rather that it was indeed a Greek empire.

The other guy said the Greek empire not the Athenian empire. The Athenian empire is not the Greek empire.

What? No. Macedon and Rome are completely different in this regard.

[XiangYu]

Cyro wrote: TwinkieDP wrote: Cyro wrote: antonio62 wrote: The Comrade wrote: i meant to say hat, not hate.
Hat still doesn't make sense. :?
I think he means crown. Like India was considered the 'Jewel in the Crown' of the British empire.
Either that or he means geographically. Really?! I never knew them Brits held the Indians to such high regard...
They had a lot of rare and expensive shiney things.
We love our rare and expensive shiney things. Dude, why didn't the Brits dig up their own shiny stones and make their own crown jewels?

[Melcar]

TwinkieDP wrote: Cyro wrote: TwinkieDP wrote: Cyro wrote: antonio62 wrote: The Comrade wrote: i meant to say hat, not hate.
Hat still doesn't make sense. :?
I think he means crown. Like India was considered the 'Jewel in the Crown' of the British empire.
Either that or he means geographically. Really?! I never knew them Brits held the Indians to such high regard...
They had a lot of rare and expensive shiney things.
We love our rare and expensive shiney things. Dude, why didn't the Brits dig up their own shiny stones and make their own crown jewels?

Why do it yourself when you can make someone else do it for you? :wink:

[Cyro]

Melcar wrote: TwinkieDP wrote: Cyro wrote: TwinkieDP wrote: Cyro wrote: antonio62 wrote: The Comrade wrote: i meant to say hat, not hate.
Hat still doesn't make sense. :?
I think he means crown. Like India was considered the 'Jewel in the Crown' of the British empire.
Either that or he means geographically. Really?! I never knew them Brits held the Indians to such high regard...
They had a lot of rare and expensive shiney things.
We love our rare and expensive shiney things. Dude, why didn't the Brits dig up their own shiny stones and make their own crown jewels?

Why do it yourself when you can make someone else do it for you? :wink:

Well that and we ran out of them a few hundred years prior. :roll:

[thundertaker]

TwinkieDP wrote: Dude, why didn't the Brits dig up their own shiny stones and make their own crown jewels?

Because Britain is not a place well renowned for being a producer of precious stones........

[lovebush]

TwinkieDP wrote: Cyro wrote: TwinkieDP wrote: Cyro wrote: antonio62 wrote: The Comrade wrote: i meant to say hat, not hate.
Hat still doesn't make sense. :?
I think he means crown. Like India was considered the 'Jewel in the Crown' of the British empire.
Either that or he means geographically. Really?! I never knew them Brits held the Indians to such high regard...
They had a lot of rare and expensive shiney things.
We love our rare and expensive shiney things. Dude, why didn't the Brits dig up their own shiny stones and make their own crown jewels?

they probably had their own evirowackjobs who didnt want the earth to get hurt.