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Gus



Joined: 17 Jun 2005
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Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 5:31 pm    Post subject:  

I think it's only a felony if he hacks across state lines...
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FCTE



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Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 6:14 pm    Post subject:  

I dunno if it was all bad.......... the site seems to be running hella fast, seriously faster than I ever remember it running before. I don't ever remember clicking on something and having it transition so smoothly. Maybe we should get hacked and rebuilt more often. :lol: .......... :shifty:
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bob.appleyard



Joined: 15 Oct 2005
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Location: Manchestar, innit

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 6:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Post-hack dilemas  

TheGirlNextDoor wrote: bob.appleyard wrote: The hack took out some forums, from what I can tell, Creation vs Evolution, Constitutional Law and Economics. Should these be reinstated?

It's being worked on bob. :)

I was more asking whether they should, or whether they should be left to die...
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Protostar



Joined: 30 Jul 2004
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Location: Raleigh, North Carolina

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 7:57 pm    Post subject:  

Is that what was wrong? I tried to browse the forums earlier and it kept asking for my name and password in a pop-up box (which was weird as I have it set to automatically log me in so I don't have to remember my password). I tried to enter using the login box, but it was a nogo. I changed my password since I used it to try and enter the site. GG, getting the site back up though. This is my fav web forum, and I'd hate to see it down any longer than it has to be.
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Gus



Joined: 17 Jun 2005
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Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 8:16 pm    Post subject:  

Yeah seriously, Proto. I was convulsing and foaming at the mouth b/c I couldn't log on for like 2 hours.
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FCTE



Joined: 11 Mar 2004
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Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 8:21 pm    Post subject:  

Gus wrote: I think it's only a felony if he hacks across state lines...

It depends on the severity, I don't think defacing a website is a felony unless it halts commerce for a substantial length of time like ebay, amazon, NYSE, or it's a gov't site.

Anything across state lines just means that the FBI not local law enforcement is involved, but I seriously doubt the FBI is going to look into DoS attacks, I think that law is more in line with drug running and bank robbing. :lol:
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FCTE



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Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 8:25 pm    Post subject:  

The best thing to do is probably get the guys IP address, report it to their ISP, and hope they lose their service for violating the TOS.
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Gus



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Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 8:32 pm    Post subject:  

We have a lawyer on staff. Things are already being handled you non-lawyer.
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FCTE



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Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 8:35 pm    Post subject:  

Gus wrote: We have a lawyer on staff. Things are already being handled you non-lawyer.

Shahhhhh, he graduated like two days ago. :lol:
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Pzatchok



Joined: 15 Nov 2004
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Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 8:49 pm    Post subject:  

He passed his bar?

Oh god.
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bob.appleyard



Joined: 15 Oct 2005
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Location: Manchestar, innit

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 8:52 pm    Post subject:  

Pzatchok wrote: He passed his bar?

Oh god.

heheeh
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Mr X



Joined: 20 Jan 2005
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Location: BC

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 8:54 pm    Post subject:  

I allways miss out on the fun.
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Gaea



Joined: 22 Jun 2004
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Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 10:11 pm    Post subject:  

I am so impressed to see the forum get back so fast. You Guy's are awesome.

I was witness to the crack hack's handi work last night. I thought I got banned because I couldn't post anymore. But when I got back on all the forums were GONE!!! except for that hack's message. That person is/was nuttier than a fruitcake.

However, something else strange occured while this site was being attacked last night. I went to another forum (to curb my withdrawals) and there was my IP address, my server, my operating system and internet provider information in some guy named, 'Trajan Octavian Titus's' signature. Check it out below and see if your ISP info comes up in his signature or not. Let me know if it does. Should we be worried about other people knowing our ISP addresses?

http://www.debatepolitics.com/members/trajan-octavian-titus.html
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NAB



Joined: 25 May 2006
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Location: Where the stars at night, are big and bright

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 10:19 pm    Post subject:  

Moot wrote: I am so impressed to see the forum get back so fast. You Guy's are awesome.

I was witness to the crack hack's handi work last night. I thought I got banned because I couldn't post anymore. But when I got back on all the forums were GONE!!! except for that hack's message. That person is/was nuttier than a fruitcake.

However, something else strange occured while this site was being attacked last night. I went to another forum (to curb my withdrawals) and there was my IP address, my server, my operating system and internet provider information in some guy named, 'Trajan Octavian Titus's' signature. Check it out below and see if your ISP info comes up in his signature or not. Let me know if it does. Should we be worried about other people knowing our ISP addresses?

http://www.debatepolitics.com/members/trajan-octavian-titus.html

It looks like that person merely has his sig linked to DNSSTUFF or somesuch. Although maybe someone with a little more knowledge than me on this stuff can shed some light.

I wouldn't worry too much about it. I've been to forums where they posted your IP address after your comment. :?
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Sid



Joined: 26 Oct 2004
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Location: Kansas

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 10:28 pm    Post subject:  

It's nothing to worry about. It's a special signiture generated by some website, I believe that praetorian had one some time ago. The website that generates the signiture has that information (as does just about every website that you visit), but I doubt it's anything to be concerned about.

I thought it was kinda interesting to watchs get knocked aside, to view the old layout, and such, aside from that... I couldn't post for more than three hours... I feel violated. So very violated.
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Gaea



Joined: 22 Jun 2004
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Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:50 pm    Post subject:  

Thanks NAB and Sid. Good, thats one less thing to worry about.
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Nico



Joined: 03 Nov 2004
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Location: Auckland

Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 2:50 am    Post subject:  

Moot wrote: Thanks NAB and Sid. Good, thats one less thing to worry about.

My email address is getting spammed big style, starting last night so I'm kinda suspicious as it used to be clean. Other than that all is ok :-|
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Pzatchok



Joined: 15 Nov 2004
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Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 2:55 am    Post subject:  

We should probobly all change our forum passwords just to be safe.

It doesn't hurt to normally do that anyways.

Same with our email and anything else we can think of.


Its about that time for me to do it anyways.
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Heynow



Joined: 28 Dec 2003
Posts: 6285
Location: Massachusetts

Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 7:35 am    Post subject:  

Pzatchok wrote: We should probobly all change our forum passwords just to be safe.

It doesn't hurt to normally do that anyways.

Same with our email and anything else we can think of.


Its about that time for me to do it anyways.
They never had access to the database, so all accounts are safe. :)
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Timmytour



Joined: 07 Oct 2005
Posts: 6863

Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 9:14 am    Post subject:  

Protostar wrote: Is that what was wrong? I tried to browse the forums earlier and it kept asking for my name and password in a pop-up box (which was weird as I have it set to automatically log me in so I don't have to remember my password). I tried to enter using the login box, but it was a nogo. I changed my password since I used it to try and enter the site. GG, getting the site back up though. This is my fav web forum, and I'd hate to see it down any longer than it has to be.

I thought that the site had had a little spruce up and that everyone was having to reinput their password. I tried every combination I could think of and none would work. (Took me two goes this morning :wink: )

One thing that would concern me slightly is that would the hacker have knowledge about what was being put into the password area of that box? Is it possible he could have been harvesting potential passwords for wherever your user name was in use?
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